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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    I viewed his reply as harassment because he brought up the fact that I'm a new member and therefore I'm automatically a troll. As I've stated, I come from Bosnia and Herzegovina and I and the people of my country have vastly different views to those of the UK which is why I created this post in the first place. I'm glad you are interested in this post and hope that civilised discussion can begin again by the next posters who reply to the question.
    You have assumed I am male because i questioned your views. I am, in fact, female. I tried to incite a reasonable discussion, through providing evidence for my views and requesting evidence for yours, but I am yet to see that evidence. Its just a bit weird that you would start an account the day before starting two polls on highly controversial issues, and then proceeding to bully others who do not follow your viewpoint
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    (Original post by Paracosm)
    Because they are human and your point is nonsense, backed up by your childish and petty jealousy and absolutely nothing else. A maladaptive and damaging way of thinking. "XDDDDD"
    idk dude, they mostly act more like inhumane monsters based on how they're literally destroying the planet and promoting inhumane conditions for non-affluent people :/

    also do you really think this is jealousy? clarify how im being jealous despite hating most rich people lmao
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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    No I've said I disagree and stated why whilst not having to bring up irrelevant information about other posters
    You have, and when I rebuffed your posts with factual statements and evidence, you promptly ignored them and focused on other people, making comments such as 'take your tablets', therefore suggesting you are not a reputable poster, hence why I took a look at your profile. It isn't irrelevant in the context of your responses to other people.
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    (Original post by thetoebeans)
    idk dude, they mostly act more like inhumane monsters based on how they're literally destroying the planet and promoting inhumane conditions for non-affluent people :/

    also do you really think this is jealousy? clarify how im being jealous despite hating most rich people lmao
    Another surprising development, you have provided yet more hollow ab absurdo arguments with absolutely nothing to back them up. I'm not continuing this discussion until you can actually supply something of substance to back up your point. Your argument is genuinely sickening and you are filled with such hatred that I despair for you.
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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    Personally, I would advocate the use of the death penalty for drug smuggling, treason, rape, murder, paedophilia, war crimes and fraud. Maybe this is a cultural thing (check my username) as I'm generally not so liberal towards these issues. What are your thoughts?
    Paedophilia is NOT the same as being someone who’s abused children. Massive difference. You’re saying you’d have someone who’s a paedophile, but never hurt a child because of it, given the death penalty?

    And, no I don’t. I don’t believe the government should have the power to execute someone. Also the crimes you’ve listed are hugely open to interpretation. Petty fraud is completely different to being a serial killer.
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    Jesus said "Those who live by the sword, die by the sword"
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    (Original post by Paracosm)
    Another surprising development, you have provided yet more hollow ab absurdo arguments with absolutely nothing to back them up. I'm not continuing this discussion until you can actually supply something of substance to back up your point. Your argument is genuinely sickening and you are filled with such hatred that I despair for you.
    idk my dude, it can totally be proven that the wealth inequality rn is actually inherently harmful for most people considering the rampant poverty we have in some countries despite the excessive amounts of capital that billionaires have (as their wealth increases to US$6 trillion).

    also thanks for failing to address how i'm jealous lmao!
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    (Original post by Parkleton)
    Very funny. I was interested in having a fair discussion about a controversial topic with other like-minded people but obviously you have ruined that, Mr Troll. I will not rise to your behaviour because it is futile.

    But I won't leave the post, because I am genuinely interested in what people have to say about this topic and would love to continue to have this discussion with others.
    One word: sad.
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    (Original post by Foreverconfu)
    Yes - if it can be 100% proved it was that person who committed a crime such as rape, murder etc as this affects someone life or causes a death
    No/ if it isn’t 100% sure it’s then whocommitted
    Yes but even so, there have been many instances of miscarriages of justice throughout time. Google psychologist Elizabeth Loftus for example, who does a lot of work on this, or check out Making a Murderer on Netflix. Things like this are never simple.
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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    One word: sad.
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    (Original post by Parkleton)
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    Ur a freak
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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    Ur a freak
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    (Original post by Parkleton)
    See my post above. I do not know of any country where it is illegal to be attracted to a certain group of individuals or things. It becomes illegal when you act upon that impulse or (in the case of paedophilia) access pornography which depict sexual violence against children.
    Just because it’s not technically illegal doesn’t mean it’s not morally wrong. There are some countries where maritial rape is not illegal, that doesn’t make it right.
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    (Original post by DrawTheLine)
    All jeans have holes.
    There's a key difference between holes made by sewing together fabric and those actually made in the fabric.
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    (Original post by Parkleton)
    It's nice to have (some) meaningful debate, but I can now see this is a troll thread started only to annoy other people with a controversial topic. The OP account was only made yesterday, and has already created two poll threads, this one and 'Should fat people be taxed'
    Hahahahahaha oh dear
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    (Original post by Bosnia)
    Personally, I would advocate the use of the death penalty for drug smuggling, treason, rape, murder, paedophilia, war crimes and fraud. Maybe this is a cultural thing (check my username) as I'm generally not so liberal towards these issues. What are your thoughts?
    disagree with the fraud thing, and can empathize with the drug smuggling reasons, but 100% agree with the rest. However, I think the issues with the death penalty is the very few cases where an innocent is found guilty, thats something that would have to be accounted for if the death penalty ever came into place in the UK.

    Doubt it will ever happen, although Shariah law soon though so we never know...
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    I don't support the death penalty. A state can't condemn murder when they are involved in murder their selves.
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    For the most serious of crimes, where it can be 100% proven beyond doubt, where immense suffering has been caused and it is clear the criminal won't ever be truly rehabilitated.
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    • Has caused immense suffering
    • Is beyond rehabilitation, deemed by at least 3 trained experienced doctors/psychologists
    • Doesn't redeem themselves to lighter sentences instead of death penalty


    I'm usually very liberal, but keeping prisoners locked up costs a lot of money, some people are going to be locked up for life. I'll define immense suffering in this case as things like torture, mass sex slavery (grooming gangs, like Rotherham's one of 1400 young girls) where people are forced or coerced into being raped many many times and mass murder. By redeem themselves, if someone was to expose another grooming gang, and save a few hundred people from sex slavery, or reveal an unknown very serious terror plot, something that might end up saving the lives of many, if confirmed, should get you out of a death penalty.
    This may be controversial to some, but individual murders or rape isn't enough to warrant the ending of a life that still has potential to do good in the world.

    Regardless, the death sentence is a deeply illiberal and disgusting thing to carry out, but when it comes to the worse of humanity, let's not make the taxpayer fund keeping them fed and confined.
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    Looks like OP has been banned, haha he's learned his place at least.
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    Yes, but only for the worst and most irredeemable crimes (i.e. serial killers, habitual rapists etc.).
    I understand that prison is for rehabilitation. However, some people simply can't reform.

    However, this is only for cases when there's no doubt as to who committed the crime. In cases of speculation, death is certainly not the answer.
 
 
 
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