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    I apologize if this list rubs people the wrong way. I don't mean, at all, to purport that this is some definitive list, at all. This list was compiled with no rhyme nor reason and is just purely based on my biased opinion, lol. But here it is, my list of the most influential people in history:

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    1. "Mitochondrial Eve"
    2. Otto von Guericke
    3. Cyrus II
    4. Johannes Gutenberg
    5. Muhammed
    6. James Watt
    7. Christopher Columbus
    8. Carl Bosch
    9. Isaac Newton
    10. Genghis Khan
    11. Aristotle
    12. Homer
    13. "ancestor of all that has natural blue eyes"
    14. Louis Pasteur
    15. William Paterson
    16. Charles Darwin
    17. Malcolm McLean
    18. Mehmed II
    19. James Clerk Maxwell
    20. Tiglath-Pileser III
    21. Abbes Sieyes
    22. Alhacen
    23. Li Si
    24. Euclid
    25. Julius Caesar
    26. Claude Shannon
    27. Edward Coke
    28. Justinian I
    29. Maharshi Veda Vyasa
    30. Karl Marx
    31. Brahmagupta
    32. Alexander Fleming
    33. Cai Lun
    34. Martin Luther
    35. Francis Russell (Duke of Bedford)
    36. Menes/Narmer
    37. Napoleon Bonaparte
    38. Alyattes/Alyattes II
    39. Johann van Oldenbarnevelt
    40. John Snow
    41. Thespis
    42. Abu Bakr
    43. Luca Pacioli
    44. Edwin Drake
    45. Gavrilo Princep
    46. Marquess of Shen
    47. Thomas Edison
    48. David Ogilvy
    49. Sundiata Keita
    50. Harun al-Rashid
    51. Adam Smith
    52. John Montagu (Earl of Sandwich)
    53. Richard Arkwright
    54. Robert Peel
    55. Ebenezer Cobb Morley
    56. Parameswara
    57. Peter Peregrinus of Maricourt
    58. John Locke
    59. Norbert Weiner
    60. Charles Frederick Worth
    61. Nicolas Appert
    62. Friedrich Wohler
    63. Elvis Presley
    64. Dhabhani
    65. George Cayley
    66. Cesare Beccaria
    67. Simon Stevin
    68. John Smeaton
    69. Pericles
    70. Boulanger
    71. Sumu-Abum
    72. Gratian
    73. Henry Bessemer
    74. Vasili Arkhipov
    75. Carl Wilhelm Scheele
    76. Russell Marker
    77. Saints Cyril and Methodius
    78. Zhong Yao
    79. Wilhelm von Humboldt
    80. Otto Hahn/Lise Meitner
    81. Thomas Cook
    82. William Cullen
    83. Hugh Capet
    84. Norman Borlaug
    85. Henrietta Lacks
    86. Charles Henry Brent
    87. Otto von Bismarck
    88. Sanford Fleming
    89. James Bonsack
    90. William Shockley, Walter Brittain, John Bardeen
    91. Henry Ford
    92. Hennig Brandt
    93. Charles Gordon Greene
    94. Henry Luce
    95. Charles Augustus Fey
    96. James Ritty
    97. Rachel Carson
    98. Elizabeth Arden
    99. Professor Ludovico Brunetti
    100. Matthew Prior
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    Cool list mcpon14 I always wonder with history, who is the most influential vs who is the most famous.
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    (Original post by mcpon14)
    I apologize if this list rubs people the wrong way. I don't mean, at all, to purport that this is some definitive list, at all. This list was compiled with no rhyme nor reason and is just purely based on my biased opinion, lol. But here it is, my list of the most influential people in history:

    Wanna talk about it?

    1. "Mitochondrial Eve"
    2. Otto von Guericke
    3. Cyrus II
    4. Johannes Gutenberg
    5. Muhammed
    6. James Watt
    7. Christopher Columbus
    8. Carl Bosch
    9. Isaac Newton
    10. Genghis Khan
    11. Aristotle
    12. Homer
    13. "ancestor of all that has natural blue eyes"
    14. Louis Pasteur
    15. William Paterson
    16. Charles Darwin
    17. Malcolm McLean
    18. Mehmed II
    19. James Clerk Maxwell
    20. Tiglath-Pileser III
    21. Abbes Sieyes
    22. Alhacen
    23. Li Si
    24. Euclid
    25. Julius Caesar
    26. Claude Shannon
    27. Edward Coke
    28. Justinian I
    29. Maharshi Veda Vyasa
    30. Karl Marx
    31. Brahmagupta
    32. Alexander Fleming
    33. Cai Lun
    34. Martin Luther
    35. Francis Russell (Duke of Bedford)
    36. Menes/Narmer
    37. Napoleon Bonaparte
    38. Alyattes/Alyattes II
    39. Johann van Oldenbarnevelt
    40. John Snow
    41. Thespis
    42. Abu Bakr
    43. Luca Pacioli
    44. Edwin Drake
    45. Gavrilo Princep
    46. Marquess of Shen
    47. Thomas Edison
    48. David Ogilvy
    49. Sundiata Keita
    50. Harun al-Rashid
    51. Adam Smith
    52. John Montagu (Earl of Sandwich)
    53. Richard Arkwright
    54. Robert Peel
    55. Ebenezer Cobb Morley
    56. Parameswara
    57. Peter Peregrinus of Maricourt
    58. John Locke
    59. Norbert Weiner
    60. Charles Frederick Worth
    61. Nicolas Appert
    62. Friedrich Wohler
    63. Elvis Presley
    64. Dhabhani
    65. George Cayley
    66. Cesare Beccaria
    67. Simon Stevin
    68. John Smeaton
    69. Pericles
    70. Boulanger
    71. Sumu-Abum
    72. Gratian
    73. Henry Bessemer
    74. Vasili Arkhipov
    75. Carl Wilhelm Scheele
    76. Russell Marker
    77. Saints Cyril and Methodius
    78. Zhong Yao
    79. Wilhelm von Humboldt
    80. Otto Hahn/Lise Meitner
    81. Thomas Cook
    82. William Cullen
    83. Hugh Capet
    84. Norman Borlaug
    85. Henrietta Lacks
    86. Charles Henry Brent
    87. Otto von Bismarck
    88. Sanford Fleming
    89. James Bonsack
    90. William Shockley, Walter Brittain, John Bardeen
    91. Henry Ford
    92. Hennig Brandt
    93. Charles Gordon Greene
    94. Henry Luce
    95. Charles Augustus Fey
    96. James Ritty
    97. Rachel Carson
    98. Elizabeth Arden
    99. Professor Ludovico Brunetti
    100. Matthew Prior
    Good that this is a subjective list.

    13. "ancestor of all that has natural blue eyes"

    This person has no name but is among your list.

    No mention of the Great Pharaohs of Egypt that arguably ruled the largest and greatest empire on Earth.

    No mention of other great thinkers like Confucius.

    No mention of Ghandi or other greats who fought for the freedom of their people.

    It is a good thing that you agree that you are biased.
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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    Good that this is a subjective list.

    13. "ancestor of all that has natural blue eyes"

    This person has no name but is among your list.

    No mention of the Great Pharaohs of Egypt that arguably ruled the largest and greatest empire on Earth.

    No mention of other great thinkers like Confucius.

    No mention of Ghandi or other greats who fought for the freedom of their people.

    It is a good thing that you agree that you are biased.
    Well, as for great pharoahs, I have on there the one that started the dynastic tradition of Egypt -- Menes/Narmer, lol.

    As for great thinkers, I have Marx, Locke, Aristotle, Smith, Beccaria, etc.

    As for great thinkers of China, I have Marquess of Shen, who was the foremost figure in causing the emergence of the Hundred Schools of Thought that led to the creation of all of the major schools of thought descended from Chinese history including Daoism and Confucianism and Legalism, etc., besides the minor ones.

    As for the revolutionaries, I have Napoleon and Abbes Sieyes, whose French Revolution influenced all other subsequent revolutions. And Napoleon was largely responsible for the success of the wars of independence of the Latin American (except Brazil) and Central American countries because he tied up Spain's military and resources when Spain fought in the Napoleonic Wars.

    "Mitochondrial Eve" has no name either. And if something big like being the ancestor of all who have natural blue eyes can be traced to one individual, then he or she can be included because it is definitive that he or she is a singular figure, and it doesn't matter that he or she doesn't have a name.
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    (Original post by Onde)
    Whoisbigger.com has the top 100 as:
    Jesus
    Napoleon
    Muhammad
    William Shakespeare
    Abraham Lincoln
    George Washington
    Adolf Hitler
    Aristotle
    Alexander the Great
    Thomas Jefferson
    Henry VIII of England
    Charles Darwin
    Elizabeth I of England
    Karl Marx
    Julius Caesar
    Queen Victoria
    Martin Luther
    Joseph Stalin
    Albert Einstein
    Christopher Columbus
    Isaac Newton
    Charlemagne
    Theodore Roosevelt
    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
    Plato
    Louis XIV of France
    Ludwig van Beethoven
    Ulysses S. Grant
    Leonardo da Vinci
    Augustus
    Carl Linnaeus
    Ronald Reagan
    Charles Dickens
    Paul the Apostle
    Benjamin Franklin
    George W. Bush
    Winston Churchill
    Genghis Khan
    Charles I of England
    Thomas Edison
    James I of England
    Friedrich Nietzsche
    Franklin D. Roosevelt
    Sigmund Freud
    Alexander Hamilton
    Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
    Woodrow Wilson
    Johann Sebastian Bach
    Galileo Galilei
    Oliver Cromwell
    James Madison
    Gautama Buddha
    Mark Twain
    Edgar Allan Poe
    Joseph Smith, Jr.
    Adam Smith
    David
    George III of the United Kingdom
    Immanuel Kant
    James Cook
    John Adams
    Richard Wagner
    Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky
    Voltaire
    Saint Peter
    Andrew Jackson
    Constantine the Great
    Socrates
    Elvis Presley
    William the Conqueror
    John F. Kennedy
    Augustine of Hippo
    Vincent van Gogh
    Nicolaus Copernicus
    Vladimir Lenin
    Robert E. Lee
    Oscar Wilde
    Charles II of England
    Cicero
    Jean-Jacques Rousseau
    Francis Bacon
    Richard Nixon
    Louis XVI of France
    Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor
    King Arthur
    Michelangelo
    Philip II of Spain
    Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
    Ali
    Thomas Aquinas
    Pope John Paul II
    René Descartes
    Nikola Tesla
    Harry S. Truman
    Joan of Arc
    Dante Alighieri
    Otto von Bismarck
    Grover Cleveland
    John Calvin
    John Locke
    Michael Hart has a list. Pantheon has a list. Times has a list. But they always go with the famous people. I mean, how can you leave Fritz Haber/Carl Bosch out of it, or Claude Shannon, or Malcolm McLean, etc. They go with big names that did big things and forget the little names that did big things, lol.
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    Put your mum and dad In there too, after all, they conceived you!
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    (Original post by Dhanny)
    Put your mum and dad In there too, after all, they conceived you!
    Lol, I ain't crap.
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    (Original post by Onde)
    The whoisbigger.com rationale would be that individuals of known importance would be suitably well-attested by history. As far as I can see, they have the most objective methodology for attempting such a list.
    It is a good rationale but they are missing some super influential people, to be honest.
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    Jesus and Mohammed should easily be on the top.
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    (Original post by Laissez‒faire)
    Jesus and Mohammed should easily be on the top.
    Cyrus II allowing the Jews to go back to Jerusalem to rebuild their temple and helping to fund it began Second Temple Judaism. Christianity was just a sect of Second Temple Judaism and Islam borrowed a lot from Second Temple Judaism, tool. Judaic exclusive monotheism came out of Second Temple Judaism and both Islam and Christianity was monotheisms that emerged out of Judaism.
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    (Original post by mcpon14)
    Well, as for great pharoahs, I have on there the one that started the dynastic tradition of Egypt -- Menes/Narmer, lol.

    As for great thinkers, I have Marx, Locke, Aristotle, Smith, Beccaria, etc.

    As for great thinkers of China, I have Marquess of Shen, who was the foremost figure in causing the emergence of the Hundred Schools of Thought that led to the creation of all of the major schools of thought descended from Chinese history including Daoism and Confucianism and Legalism, etc., besides the minor ones.

    As for the revolutionaries, I have Napoleon and Abbes Sieyes, whose French Revolution influenced all other subsequent revolutions. And Napoleon was largely responsible for the success of the wars of independence of the Latin American (except Brazil) and Central American countries because he tied up Spain's military and resources when Spain fought in the Napoleonic Wars.

    "Mitochondrial Eve" has no name either. And if something big like being the ancestor of all who have natural blue eyes can be traced to one individual, then he or she can be included because it is definitive that he or she is a singular figure, and it doesn't matter that he or she doesn't have a name.
    Fair enough.

    What about the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Warburgs and many other banking families that have ruled and influenced the world for many years.
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    (Original post by mcpon14)
    It is a good rationale but they are missing some super influential people, to be honest.
    sure. But I do like the fact that they were consistent in their approach, and essentially had an exhaustive list of everybody of note.
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    (Original post by Onde)
    sure. But I do like the fact that they were consistent in their approach, and essentially had an exhaustive list of everybody of note.
    How come they didn't have Fritz Haber or Carl Bosch, of the Haber-Bosch process, which was played a large role in why the population skyrocketed in the 20th century and beyond, from around 1 billion in the 1900s to 7 billion of recent times?

    Or William Shockley, Walter Brittain or John Bardeen who invented the transistor, which is used in all subsequent electronics, and which is the basic component of the microchip?
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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    Fair enough.

    What about the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Warburgs and many other banking families that have ruled and influenced the world for many years.
    Well, for me, many banking innovations had to happen before banking dynasties and huge corporations that make money off of those innovations had to happen and I included those such as Luca Pacioli (double-entry bookkeeping and other accounting things), Alyattes/Alyattes II (invented true coins (standardized weight and state guarantee that it can be used as payment)), Genghis Khan (during the Pax Mongolica, things like deposit banking, insurance and bills of exchange were spread to Europe), etc.

    Think about it: How can Hollywood happen if the motion picture camera wasn't invented or the recording industry, if machines that could record sound and reproduce sound wasn't invented?
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    (Original post by Captain Jack)
    Cool list mcpon14 I always wonder with history, who is the most influential vs who is the most famous.
    Thanks
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    (Original post by Onde)
    Fritz Haber is ranked 3628, Carl Bosch 18870, William Shockley 6872, Walter Brittain 27647, and John Bardeen 7599. I guess it is a combination of them not being recognised by history compared to similar innovators, and maybe because their achievement was a team/company effort. Thomas Edison for example may not have invented the lightbulb, but he is generally the one who gets the credit for making it a big thing.
    Shockley, yes, because it was Bell Labs but Shockley led the team and Shockley, Brittain, Bardeen got the Nobel Prize for the transistor. But Martin Cooper gets credit for inventing the first mobile phone but it was a team effort, Motorola, I think, lol.

    Fritz Haber's part wasn't a team effort, unless you count Clara Immerwahr's contributions but hers was uncredited, lol. And Edison was definitely a team effort, so much so that his most important contribution to humanity, some would say, lol, is that he popularized large scale teamwork to inventing. That's why I didn't put him higher because, for example, all of the things he invented in the movie camera area were invented by his employees or others, and he mass-marketed it, lol. And a lot of inventions that are credited to people are so only because they got the patent for it, lol, for example, he got in a patent dispute with Hiram Maxim for the patent for the light bulb, which was probably basically the same as Edison's, both long-lasting and safe. Bell with Elisha Root and the Wright brothers where there are some who claim that others should have been given priority of inventing the airplane. And James Watt and Matthew Boulton stifled the progression of the steam engine because their patent prevented others from improving upon it. McKay sort of got the combine harvester to be seen as his invention when he actually got the idea from a literature from California and Moore invented it in the United States. All I'm saying is that just because you are a big name associated with something, doesn't always mean that you deserve as much credit as you are getting, and that there are many unrecognized people who deserve recognition.
    And if you are talking about a team effort, then what about generals and conquerors? All of them achieved what they achieved because of their army.

    And all innovations and influential ideas are team efforts because as Newton said, "they stand on the shoulders of giants", lol.
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    Its a completely impossible thing to quantify. Who's to say Michael Jordan and Elvis Presley haven't inspired as many people as any politician or soldier?
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    (Original post by Jjj90)
    Its a completely impossible thing to quantify. Who's to say Michael Jordan and Elvis Presley haven't inspired as many people as any politician or soldier?
    What would be your criteria for choosing that names that you would choose if you made a list like this? I'm interested because I'm always revising my list.
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    Historians have greatly influenced our understanding of the past
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    (Original post by SuperHuman98)
    Historians have greatly influenced our understanding of the past
    Many of them say that the victors write the history, lol. But some of those who were supposed to be stricken from history get through such as Akhenaton, lol.
 
 
 
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