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    How do you get reduced offers from universities?
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    (Original post by Itssbeckie)
    How do you get reduced offers from universities?
    It's only when you meet contextual criteria generally
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    (Original post by claireestelle)
    It's only when you meet contextual criteria generally
    For what?
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    Really good or really poor.
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    I got a lower offer from Exeterbut am not entirely poor, not exactly rich either.

    Possibly they just like certain personal statements and give lower offers to them
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    Low income background, low higher education participation in the area (POLAR3), exceed the grade requirements of the university greatly, etc.
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    Some Universities also use your home postcode to show if you live in an area where few people go to University.
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    Fill in the contextual offer form and mention any mitigating circumstances
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    Apply to an easy uni, be poor, or both.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
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    Apply to an easy uni, be poor, or both.


    Utter nonsense.

    All RG Unis make Contextual offers.

    And it isnt to do with poverty either - its about lack of educational opportunities.
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    (Original post by returnmigrant)
    Utter nonsense.

    All RG Unis make Contextual offers.

    And it isnt to do with poverty either - its about lack of educational opportunities.
    Not all of them do, sorry. The easier ones do. The reason why I'm calling them 'easy' is because, once you move past the top five or so, the offer rates skyrocket to something at or above 70%. Hell, even Durham has a 60% offer rate. That's easy.

    A "lack of educational opportunities" maps near-perfectly into poverty (at least in the way in which it is defined nowadays, which is relative). You're saying the same thing with different words.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)


    A "lack of educational opportunities" maps near-perfectly into poverty (at least in the way in which it is defined nowadays, which is relative). You're saying the same thing with different words.

    No I am not, because no it isnt.

    If you live in the middle of London your choices of schools/6th forms are wide and varied.

    If you live in the middle of rural Wales (for instance) there may be only one 6th form within travelling distance and it may be 'low achieving'.

    That has nothing to do with poverty.
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    (Original post by returnmigrant)
    No I am not, because no it isnt.

    If you live in the middle of London your choices of schools/6th forms are wide and varied.

    If you live in the middle of rural Wales (for instance) there may be only one 6th form within travelling distance and it may be 'low achieving'.

    That has nothing to do with poverty.
    Glad you skipped the first point about "all RGs offering reduced grades".

    What you said is true if it wasn't also true that good performing schools have catchment areas (into which poor people may not be able to afford to move into), and the 'wide range of schools' you refer to encompasses fee-paying schools. Besides, the way in which middle class people work, you're unlikely to see a more affluent family living in a POLAR5 neighbourhood for too long. Too much crime, deprivation, and lack of professional/educational opportunities. They'll move out and a poor(er) family will take their place. Hence, in the long run, the people who live in the areas with limited educational opportunities are likely to be poor themselves.
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    1.) If you would be a first gen uni student
    2.) If you're from an "underprivileged" area
    3.) If you attend/attended a school with a low rate of students going to univeristy
    4.) Agree to compete the univeristy's summer programme, eg Glasgow University has "Access Glasgow"
    5.) Circumstances eg a bereavement in the family etc
    6.) If you are a mature student returning to eduction
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    Not all of them do, sorry. The easier ones do. The reason why I'm calling them 'easy' is because, once you move past the top five or so, the offer rates skyrocket to something at or above 70%. Hell, even Durham has a 60% offer rate. That's easy.

    A "lack of educational opportunities" maps near-perfectly into poverty (at least in the way in which it is defined nowadays, which is relative). You're saying the same thing with different words.
    You messed up by implying that Bristol (RI's uni) is crap because it gives out contextuals.

    (Original post by returnmigrant)
    No I am not, because no it isnt.

    If you live in the middle of London your choices of schools/6th forms are wide and varied.

    If you live in the middle of rural Wales (for instance) there may be only one 6th form within travelling distance and it may be 'low achieving'.

    That has nothing to do with poverty.
    There are some contextual indicators related explicitly to poverty, such as attending a school with high free school meals or being from a deprived area. (NB: Bristol does not use these, but other unis (e.g. Warwick) do.) Also in your example, rural areas in Wales have a tendency to be quite poor. It is true you do not need to be poor to take advantage of the low participation area factor, but it is pointless to suggest being from a low participating area is completely divorced from poverty.
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    (Original post by Notorious_B.I.G.)
    You messed up by implying that Bristol (RI's uni) is **** because it gives out contextuals.
    Easy =/= ****. Easy only refers to the difficulty in getting in.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    Easy =/= crap. Easy only refers to the difficulty in getting in.
    Implied =/= =.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    Hence, in the long run, the people who live in the areas with limited educational opportunities are likely to be poor themselves.
    I hope that once at University you learn how to state your argument in a more sophisticated and mature manner than you have displayed here.
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    (Original post by returnmigrant)
    I hope that once at University you learn how to state your argument in a more sophisticated and mature manner than you have displayed here.
    Already am, thanks.

    And still waiting for a rebuttal on that Seems that you've put forward two propositions that you're too embarrassed to concede.
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    (Original post by JohanGRK)
    Not all of them do, sorry. The easier ones do. The reason why I'm calling them 'easy' is because, once you move past the top five or so, the offer rates skyrocket to something at or above 70%. Hell, even Durham has a 60% offer rate. That's easy.

    A "lack of educational opportunities" maps near-perfectly into poverty (at least in the way in which it is defined nowadays, which is relative). You're saying the same thing with different words.
    Is your hypothesis not conflating two issues, does your premises actually indicate the academic rigour of each institution?
 
 
 
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