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Man beaten to death with baseball bats by gang

Yh i heard too thanks to my news app
Very painful way to die:frown:
Original post by RivalPlayer
Another brutal murder in an area praised for its vibrant diversity.


true af tbh.
inb4 'the attackers were of asian descent'
Original post by Danny Large
true af tbh.
inb4 'the attackers were of asian descent'


I sorry but what different does it make if the attack are of Asian descent or even green skin. People commit terrible crime against each other what ever skin colour social class , sexuality or sex they are. The only reason skin colour is in important because it a description of the suspects just like hair colour etc.... Please stop make ever crime commit by a non-white British person a race issue.
Why did he get killed?
Reply 5
Original post by serions871
Didn't know baseball bats could kill


Well, not as such, no: they do generally require a prehensile appendage of some sort to direct the infliction of traumatic brain-injury and pulverising of vital organs that would tend to ensue when one is struck repeatedly with a long, heavy section of aerodynamic tree-trunk which has been ergonomically designed for hitting.
Reply 6
London really is a shitehole.
Reply 7


Are you serious? You didn't know that repeated whacking somebody with a heavy lump of wood could potentially kill them?
Reply 8
Original post by Wōden
Are you serious? You didn't know that repeated whacking somebody with a heavy lump of wood could potentially kill them?


Perhaps he was one of the survivors.
Reply 9
Original post by tamil fever
Why did he get killed?


Why do you care?
Original post by Profesh
Perhaps he was one of the survivors.


Maybe thinking of the other kind of wood?
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Original post by serions871
Why do you care?


Because why shouldn't I?
Original post by Danny Large
true af tbh.
inb4 'the attackers were of asian descent'


They weren't. They were white Romanians.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4915753/murder-of-romanian-sorin-serbu-sparks-fears-of-london-migrant-gang-war/
Original post by tamil fever
Because why shouldn't I?


Because it suggests that it can be justified
Eastern European gangland again. The victim was a drug and people trafficker
Reply 15
Original post by RivalPlayer
Another brutal murder in an area praised for its vibrant diversity.


Nice one trying to point the finger at ethnic minorities as soon as you get the chance. How about look at why people actually commit crime and the deteriorating economic conditions in areas of urban Britain that helps gang crime flourish. Look at working class Britain and you will find just as many white criminals. Ethnicity, race, or the multiculturalism boogeyman is not the problem at all. Improve the benefits and housing system as well as the economic situations in these crime-ridden areas and you will see an improvement. If the system does not serve the people, people will simply find another system in order to survive.

And so, the cycle of vengeance, hate and murder begins.
Not trying to be disrespectful or anything, but boi
have you even played GTA: San Andreas???
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Reply 17
Original post by RivalPlayer
Yeah, I'm sure these people beat someone to death with baseball bats so they could afford to have beans on toast for dinner. Such people are not shooting or stabbing or stealing mopeds and iPhones so that they can help their mothers pay for the weekly shopping; they are criminals obsessed with power, status and materialism. And these days they are increasingly able to operate completely undisturbed by an authority hamstrung by political correctness.

Why is Newham now the UK's hotspot for acid attacks? Are you saying things are so bad in this country that people have resorted to spraying acid to "survive"? Look at the countries where acid attacks are popular and then tell me it has nothing to do with demographics and culture.

As long people like you keep making excuses for these criminals, nothing will change. Suggesting that the criminals who commit such acts of barbarity do it because they are poor is an insult to those who are genuinely poor and struggling.


So what? These people are inherently evil? Of course they do it because they are poor, they are socialized into a life of crime by their surroundings. Do you see stuff like this happening to the same extent in wealthy middle class neighborhoods? Of course not. People reflect their environments. If you grow up where crime to escape poverty is a norm then you are much more likely to be drawn into it than if you grew up somewhere else where you have more opportunities for social mobility. Suggesting that I am somehow making excuses for them is preposterous, its called finding the root causes of the problem and not blindly throwing the blame on things like ethnicity. You're right in saying these people are obsessed with power, status and materialism, because if you look at rich high culture you will find an obsession with the same things, as all these things can be seen as coming from wealth. Yet crime is seen as the only way of achieving this for a lot of working class people and unfortunately that is why they are pushed into it without fully understanding and then innocent people die.
RIP
Reply 19
Original post by RivalPlayer
When you legally live in a first world country with a welfare system, entering a life of crime is a choice not a necessity. And that choice is informed by your principles, and your principles are influenced by your culture. If your cultural background has values that are geared toward violence and criminality being an acceptable form of resolving your problems then you will be more likely to pursue such a lifestyle. You can live in a poor area and be poor and still be a decent human; it all rests on the cultural values you were brought up with.

The UK has unthinkingly imported many people from some of the most violent parts of the world. Invite such people into a first world country with weak laws and there will be a huge increase in violence. But in today's politically correct climate, it is unpalatable to state the obvious. So instead, those on the left will continue to blame inequality, racism, poverty, lack of opportunity, etc for producing these criminals. This only further helps to breed the resentment that they [criminals] use to justify their actions.


No one is saying they don't have a choice, its clear you don't understand when you keep writing off the counter argument as somehow "justifying" the actions of criminals and that the left is somehow this big group that just wants to **** everything up (hint= we don't). The fact of the matter is that if you grow up around crime, you will see it as a legitimate way of achieving wealth, status and respect. You are a product of your environment, its basic sociology. There have been gangs for centuries, there are gangs of all ethnicities which is a well known fact which your swipe at ethnic minorities simply fails to explain. I find it hilarious that you seek to blame the left and political correctness for this. If someone lives in an environment that offers a lack of opportunity for social mobility, then that person will be more influenced to look for other methods of obtaining this as they will be socialised into thinking that this is the only alternative, some people are more influenced by culture, but this doesn't explain the whole problem as you only have to look at the areas that are ridden with this type of crime to look at the problem that has been ignored. As long as there is a disadvantaged under-served segment of the population, there will always be areas that will continuously breed crime. You can blame immigration all you want, but the fact of the matter is that you are only looking at one side of the problem. I know that the UK has imported criminals into this country, however not all criminals are immigrants which goes to show that its an economic problem as you do not see gang crime in wealthy middle class suburbs where there is not a lack of opportunities. We need preventative measures that will target the roots of the problem that will prevent people from being drawn into a life of crime. You're right in saying your culture socialises you but you are forgetting that us as humans are influenced by many other things as well, and the most influential factor is not the same for everyone, the same goes for the many things that make up culture, therefore showing that you are only focusing on one part of the problem. This is the flaw in your thinking that I am trying to relay to you.
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