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What do you make of these warnings http://www.independent.co.uk/environ...52481.html?amp
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I'd like to think that something might come of this, but I doubt it. Greed is king, and governments never care about the long term. As far as the UK's "greenest government ever" is concerned, I'd be amazed if they even acknowledged this letter's existence. They're too busy stripping away the environment for profit to give a damn about saving the Earth.
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(Original post by Dez)
I'd like to think that something might come of this, but I doubt it. Greed is king, and governments never care about the long term. As far as the UK's "greenest government ever" is concerned, I'd be amazed if they even acknowledged this letter's existence. They're too busy stripping away the environment for profit to give a damn about saving the Earth.
I'd like to think that something might come of this, but I doubt it. Greed is king, and governments never care about the long term. As far as the UK's "greenest government ever" is concerned, I'd be amazed if they even acknowledged this letter's existence. They're too busy stripping away the environment for profit to give a damn about saving the Earth.
It's also worth saying that the UK is at less risk than other countries from these threats. The Africans may starve but we won't.
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(Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
Stop trying to make me feel bad, I am doing my best to save the planet!
I only eat organic, I tweet and FB all the time about environmentalism, and I spent my gap year going all around the world lecturing people about their carbon footprints.
#green #saveThePlanet #capitalismIsTheProblem
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Stop trying to make me feel bad, I am doing my best to save the planet!
I only eat organic, I tweet and FB all the time about environmentalism, and I spent my gap year going all around the world lecturing people about their carbon footprints.
#green #saveThePlanet #capitalismIsTheProblem
Sent from my iPhone
Your like a gap year students who travel the world on planes with a high carbon footprint and go on about Eco tourism and how their worried the environment.
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So your a hypocrite than you go around world on planes lecturing people on their carbon footprint when your carbon footprint is higher than there.
Your like a gap year students who travel the world on planes with a high carbon footprint and go on about Eco tourism and how their worried the environment.
So your a hypocrite than you go around world on planes lecturing people on their carbon footprint when your carbon footprint is higher than there.
Your like a gap year students who travel the world on planes with a high carbon footprint and go on about Eco tourism and how their worried the environment.
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we should be fine, by 2100 everyone will be vegan and everything electric, we will colonize parts of africa to make do of our population
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People complain about the environment but here in the UK we are still seeing a move to renewable continuing (29.8%). I personally think that's pretty good since Germany is only at 35%.
People complain about the environment but here in the UK we are still seeing a move to renewable continuing (29.8%). I personally think that's pretty good since Germany is only at 35%.
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It's also worth saying that the UK is at less risk than other countries from these threats. The Africans may starve but we won't.
It's also worth saying that the UK is at less risk than other countries from these threats. The Africans may starve but we won't.
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I think the government could be doing a lot more to move towards renewable and low-pollution energy, but on top of that there are many other concerns as the letter points out: deforestation, environmental pollution, and so on. And even if we're not doing these things ourselves, the UK is still buying products from the companies who do.
Climate refugeeism is going to be the biggest threat to western countries like the UK I think (at least in the beginning). If you think the Syrian crisis is bad, wait until half the globe's arable land becomes uninhabitable. It's going to be absolute chaos.
I think the government could be doing a lot more to move towards renewable and low-pollution energy, but on top of that there are many other concerns as the letter points out: deforestation, environmental pollution, and so on. And even if we're not doing these things ourselves, the UK is still buying products from the companies who do.
Climate refugeeism is going to be the biggest threat to western countries like the UK I think (at least in the beginning). If you think the Syrian crisis is bad, wait until half the globe's arable land becomes uninhabitable. It's going to be absolute chaos.
The later requires weak willed governments. Possible but look at the reaction to the current refugee wave.
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(Original post by Rakas21)
People complain about the environment but here in the UK we are still seeing a move to renewable continuing (29.8%). I personally think that's pretty good since Germany is only at 35%.
It's also worth saying that the UK is at less risk than other countries from these threats. The Africans may starve but we won't.
People complain about the environment but here in the UK we are still seeing a move to renewable continuing (29.8%). I personally think that's pretty good since Germany is only at 35%.
It's also worth saying that the UK is at less risk than other countries from these threats. The Africans may starve but we won't.
Canada won't starve. The US won't starve. The UK? Eh.
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(Original post by Rakas21)
The former requires harming the consumer.
The former requires harming the consumer.
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The later requires weak willed governments. Possible but look at the reaction to the current refugee wave.
The later requires weak willed governments. Possible but look at the reaction to the current refugee wave.
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the most practical step to help the planet is to have zero offspring.
the most practical step to help the planet is to have zero offspring.
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(Original post by Rakas21)
People complain about the environment but here in the UK we are still seeing a move to renewable continuing (29.8%). I personally think that's pretty good since Germany is only at 35%.
It's also worth saying that the UK is at less risk than other countries from these threats. The Africans may starve but we won't.
People complain about the environment but here in the UK we are still seeing a move to renewable continuing (29.8%). I personally think that's pretty good since Germany is only at 35%.
It's also worth saying that the UK is at less risk than other countries from these threats. The Africans may starve but we won't.
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(Original post by FriendlyPenguin)
Stop trying to make me feel bad, I am doing my best to save the planet!
I only eat organic, I tweet and FB all the time about environmentalism, and I spent my gap year going all around the world lecturing people about their carbon footprints.
#green #saveThePlanet #capitalismIsTheProblem
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Stop trying to make me feel bad, I am doing my best to save the planet!
I only eat organic, I tweet and FB all the time about environmentalism, and I spent my gap year going all around the world lecturing people about their carbon footprints.
#green #saveThePlanet #capitalismIsTheProblem
Sent from my iPhone
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I don't think humans are in danger of extinction over this. It's society that's in danger of collapsing. We could potentially be taken back hundreds of years. And nobody wants that, do they?
I think policy is partly to blame. Governments pushed for low CO2 cars without realising that the emissions tests are horrendously unrepresentative and tend to significantly inflate fuel consumption. This led manufacturers to make cars that did well in the tests while sacrificing real-life emissions performance. Not to mention that the manufacture of new goods such as cars is extremely damaging to the environment, but governments ignore that. People should keep their 5-10 year old cars and get as much use out of them as possible before buying a new Tesla. And talking of electric cars, those need to be used in conjunction with renewable energy. Those people who complain about it "ruining the landscape" should be ignored, because I tell you what ruins the landscape: flooding and acid rain.
But above all, people need to wise up and avoid buying stuff they don't really need. I'd rather people did this out of their own good will rather than governments having to implement some kind of CO2 rationing system, but if people are so selfish that it has to be done, I say do it.
I think policy is partly to blame. Governments pushed for low CO2 cars without realising that the emissions tests are horrendously unrepresentative and tend to significantly inflate fuel consumption. This led manufacturers to make cars that did well in the tests while sacrificing real-life emissions performance. Not to mention that the manufacture of new goods such as cars is extremely damaging to the environment, but governments ignore that. People should keep their 5-10 year old cars and get as much use out of them as possible before buying a new Tesla. And talking of electric cars, those need to be used in conjunction with renewable energy. Those people who complain about it "ruining the landscape" should be ignored, because I tell you what ruins the landscape: flooding and acid rain.
But above all, people need to wise up and avoid buying stuff they don't really need. I'd rather people did this out of their own good will rather than governments having to implement some kind of CO2 rationing system, but if people are so selfish that it has to be done, I say do it.
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