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Is UKIP still relevant in today's British politics?

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In my opinion they should be as relevant as ever. We are in the midst of the biggest peacetime UK negotiation, which they helped manufacture. But sadly many voters saw Brexit as a 1-day vote and then everything would be forgotten about, UKIP were very much associated with this and have been swept under the rug. They have become an outlet for the far-right and really just exist by thriving off former Conservative voters.

However, the UK does appear to be shifting slightly to the left in it's politics (not socialist at all like some people suggest, but it's moving to the centre ground again oppose to the centre-right where it's been for 5 or so years). Therefore the greater this shift, the more irrelevant UKIP become.

So to answer your question, in my opinion UKIP should have been relevant until the Brexit negations were over, then they would have been decimated by the Conservative broadchurch and by the left shift, but it appears due to their populist nature they have fallen as quick as they climbed.

By all accounts, they are not very relevant.
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Original post by mr T 999
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Nope!
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you don't see brexit as relevant ?
Original post by kokaled
you don't see brexit as relevant ?


UKIP now have no influence over Brexit at all, read my post above, they should be relevant, but aren't and will die.
They will be relevant next election, when negotiations have finished.
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TBH I'm not sure anyone actually cared about UKIP to begin with. People voted for Brexit, they voted for Farage, and now since neither of those two things exist for UKIP they're basically pointless. The UK is moving back towards bipartisan politics, there are several polls confirming that. Unless the minor parties can dredge out some serious popularity surges it's effectively going to be Tory and Labour fighting it out alone at the next election.
UKIP at the moment are a good party to have hanging around the political scene, especially in terms of Brexit, because despite what you voted or support, leave or remain, Brexit is happening and we need the best deal possible for Britain. In terms of mainstream politics, they are still a good party to have, especially under the new leadership of Henry Bolton, former Lib-Dem MP. His defence policies are probably one of the best defence policies. especially with his experience within the defence scene advising the UN etc. Mainstream policy wise now, they have adapted to the needs of the British people, which could work. However they won't get a chance in politics as they are a small party. The only thing they would need to change to get a chance is a rename because they still stand as a party for British Independence.which is long gone now. UKIP still have some use in politics but are slowly drifting out.

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Original post by Dez
TBH I'm not sure anyone actually cared about UKIP to begin with. People voted for Brexit, they voted for Farage, and now since neither of those two things exist for UKIP they're basically pointless. The UK is moving back towards bipartisan politics, there are several polls confirming that. Unless the minor parties can dredge out some serious popularity surges it's effectively going to be Tory and Labour fighting it out alone at the next election.


They voted for populism, something why has never lasted in history.
No UKIP are finished.

UKIP voters best bet is to grit their teeth and join the Tories and try and influence decisions which is largely what has happened.
the Women's Suffrage Party did not last long once the ladies were given the vote :rolleyes:
To be honest I thought UKIP would do very well in this election, but they didn't even get a single seat so I guess UKIP is now like a used disposable syringe, worth it for one shot but then something to be discarded.
Original post by the bear
the Women's Suffrage Party did not last long once the ladies were given the vote :rolleyes:


Comparing UKIP to the women' suffrage movement is legitimately ridiculous.


OT; they are about as relevant as the lib dems...
Original post by mojojojo101
Comparing UKIP to the women' suffrage movement is legitimately ridiculous.


OT; they are about as relevant as the lib dems...


they both were single issue parties who were left with nothing to do once their stated objective was achieved.
UKIP is completely irrelevant we’re going to leave the eu, internal market, ecj and customs union.

That relegated them to a disorganised party, with nothing to bind them together losing voters hand over fist.

I don’t think they will exist in two electoral cycles time.
Original post by mr T 999
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The simple answer here is No.

Right now they are essentially a spent force because events have moved against them significantly. May (a remainer) accepted and advocated a hard Brexit (meaning that for ex-Tories, their sins were now forgiven). Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party (most patriots would feel ill at the thought he could be elected) and they failed to win a by-election in a seat which had voted 70% Leave.

Essentially they were beaten by the Tories and their voters scared like sheep into a pen by Corbyn.

Multi-party politics is dead. If anything, i can see the Lab-Con vote share crushing the minor parties even more at the next election.
Original post by GovernmentEarner
In my opinion they should be as relevant as ever. We are in the midst of the biggest peacetime UK negotiation, which they helped manufacture. But sadly many voters saw Brexit as a 1-day vote and then everything would be forgotten about, UKIP were very much associated with this and have been swept under the rug. They have become an outlet for the far-right and really just exist by thriving off former Conservative voters.

However, the UK does appear to be shifting slightly to the left in it's politics (not socialist at all like some people suggest, but it's moving to the centre ground again oppose to the centre-right where it's been for 5 or so years). Therefore the greater this shift, the more irrelevant UKIP become.

So to answer your question, in my opinion UKIP should have been relevant until the Brexit negations were over, then they would have been decimated by the Conservative broadchurch and by the left shift, but it appears due to their populist nature they have fallen as quick as they climbed.

By all accounts, they are not very relevant.


Actually, UKIP gained support from lots of older Labour supporters.....unfortunately.
Original post by SCIENCE :D
Actually, UKIP gained support from lots of older Labour supporters.....unfortunately.


Not to be rude but UKIP lost 87% of their voters last election, I don’t really care about the makeup.
Original post by GovernmentEarner
Not to be rude but UKIP lost 87% of their voters last election, I don’t really care about the makeup.


I don't care about UKIP. but a lot of people who voted for UKIP, voted for farage rather than UKIP.
Until the current government makes a complete hash of brexit, which it probably will, then ukip is pretty much pointless.
By the way, a government document about uk entering the eec is well worth reading. Look up "fco 30/1048", its basically the government saying they will surrender their self determination without consulting their electorate

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