Has Pop Punk Endured Over Time?

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ellenr26
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So, I have a research project due in tomorrow for BTEC Music Technology, this is very important, and I'm doing it on the genre of Pop Punk, the title of the project being: Has Pop Punk Endured Over Time?

Part of my research project is to interview people to get answers for the research as well as using the internet, so I thought I'd interview people on here. So if you're into the genre of Pop Punk or know about it, I have some interview questions below, so that I can get some more opinions on the topic. Please try to answer these questions in detail. That would be very much appreciated:


1.​Who were the pioneers? Do you think there would still be Pop Punk without them?

2.​Why do you think Pop Punk was overpowered by mainstream modern Pop? Why was mainstream modern Pop preferred over Pop Punk?

3.​What sort of things does mainstream modern Pop have that Pop Punk doesn’t, that made mainstream modern Pop so popular? (especially among younger audiences: Children, adolescents)

4.​Where and when do you think Pop Punk originated? How did it come about?

5.​Do you think Pop Punk is “dead” as of now? Why/why not?

6.​Green Day headlined British Summertime in Hyde Park 2017, along with popular artist Justin Bieber, is that hinting that Pop Punk is coming back into the mainstream? What do you think?
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I'm not too into the genre but I at least know some of it so I'll answer.

1. Pioneers? I don't know, but the big bands like Greenday, Blink-182 and Sum41 come to mind.

2. At my school there was a big group of pop punk fans, but most people listened to pop. It's just so ubiquitous, everywhere on the radio, TV, all sorts of media. The pop celebs have bigger celebrity status unlike pop punk celebs. Pop punk went into decline, the original bands were getting old. Pop always has the next biggest thing every year.

3. Similar answer, it's practically everywhere and young children will just listen to what's ever on the radio. Pop punks main demographic is teens. They both have similar musical features in ways but pop is just more easy listening and accessible. Plus being from the UK, Pop punk isn't as prominent here as it is in the US.

4. I do not know. I know Blink-182 and Greenday started in the 90s and was mostly an American thing.

5. It's not exactly dead, recently there's been a bit of a comeback or an attempt at least. Greenday, Blink-182 and Weezer and maybe some others brought out albums this year or last year. Not sure how commercially successful they were.

6. Until I start hearing Greenday or any other pop punk band frequently on mainstream radio then I will give that a resounding no.
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Wouldn't say I'm massively into it, but honestly, a lot of the answers can't really be that far off from rock or metal at the time, punk and metal do share a lot of similarities after all, even on the hardcore side of things.

1. Guys like the Beatles are a no brainier. They're not punk by any means, but if there's anything even remotely rock, chances are, these guys were an influence there. Some of the more obvious names that come to mind would be the Ramones, The Kinks and, of course, the Sex Pistols. With later bands like Green Day and Blink 182 really pushing punk way up there in the mainstream.

Some less obvious one's I'm going to throw out here... Surf artists. Surf? A few reasons here... Surf played a big part in influence artists in the 60's, which lead to garage rock, or 60's 'punk'.

Black Sabbath. When we're talking about anything rock, be it metal/hard rock or punk, these guys are up there with the Beatles. I'm sure you're aware that guitar riffs in punk are largely made up of power chords, and I'm sure you're aware of what power chords are. Tony Iommi is often credited for popularising the use of power chords, and Black Sabbath was a rather rebellious band at the time, you know... The whole metal is the music of satan malarky? Yeah... That... And obviously, rebelling was a big park of punk.

2. Tastes change I guess. Same thing happened with glam metal, I can only assume people got sick of mainstream punk and they moved onto something else.

3. Can't say I know. If anything, I'd argue that people are more interested in the videos (many of which are sexualised) than the music. What's certain to me is that most music put out today in the pop world, is designed to be consumed rather than enjoyed over decades. You always hear people saying sh*t like "you still listen to *insert song from a few weeks ago* that's so old now". Not many modern pop songs have managed to withstand the test of time, and that trend only seems to be continuing.

Why is it popular amongst children? Rebelling perhaps? Might think it's uncool to like what their parents do.

It could simply just be through exposure rather than actual taste. Turn on the radio and you can't seem to get away from certain songs. At work we've got a radio playing in our area, and I swear to god, all that seems to play is the same 5 or 6 songs.

The only other answer I could give here is; look at what has stood the test of time. Livin' On A Prayer, Sweet Child O' Mind, Smells Like Teen Spirit. Take those and take modern pop songs, and see what similarities there are, that could potentially give you the answer.

4. Where? The UK/US and AUS. When? The 70's

5. No, it's very hard to kill a genre of music. Bands like Green Day and Blink 182 are still quite popular and have plenty of well known hits. Hell, it wasn't that long ago that we were hearing Avril Lavigne

6. 5 pretty much sums this one up for me I guess. Pop Punk never went anywhere, and while Green Day are popular, I wouldn't say they're Justin Bieber popular, but I'd certainly say they're mainstream.
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Nobody's mentioned New Found Glory yet.
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(Original post by TheMcSame)
Wouldn't say I'm massively into it, but honestly, a lot of the answers can't really be that far off from rock or metal at the time, punk and metal do share a lot of similarities after all, even on the hardcore side of things.

1. Guys like the Beatles are a no brainier. They're not punk by any means, but if there's anything even remotely rock, chances are, these guys were an influence there. Some of the more obvious names that come to mind would be the Ramones, The Kinks and, of course, the Sex Pistols. With later bands like Green Day and Blink 182 really pushing punk way up there in the mainstream.
Nor is pop-punk tbf. Pop-Punk owes more to the beatles than any proper sub-genre of punk, because it's ultimately just fast pop music and sold out so fast. Punk (be it punk rock or hardcore) is at it's core about anti-authoritarianism and about opposing the commercialisation of everything. Pop punk bands went straight to MTV and sucked up to the system punk was supposed to oppose while churning out vacuous rubbish.



1.​Who were the pioneers? Do you think there would still be Pop Punk without them?

Depends how you're looking at it. Stiff Little Fingers and Bad Religion ended up leading to it, Greenday started life as just a **** SLF covers band, and while Bad Religion were at their core a hardcore band, their use of melodies could be seen as a bridge to mingling with pop.
2.​Why do you think Pop Punk was overpowered by mainstream modern Pop? Why was mainstream modern Pop preferred over Pop Punk?

Pop-punk was nothing, neither able to bank on the punk counter-culture who rightly view it as selling out, but still too noisy for standard pop.

3.​What sort of things does mainstream modern Pop have that Pop Punk doesn’t, that made mainstream modern Pop so popular? (especially among younger audiences: Children, adolescents)


Pop is more polished, more MOR for mass appeal.

4.​Where and when do you think Pop Punk originated? How did it come about?

Start of the 90s with bands like Green Day and Blink-182, as to how - bands who wanted to be punk, but wanted to go into corporate rock more.
5.​Do you think Pop Punk is “dead” as of now? Why/why not?

I hope so. Punk never will be, music is one of the most powerful tools for social change we've got. So long as there are 4 kids in a garage somewhere pissed at the world, there'll be punk music - and the world as it is now is geared more towards proper punk, the DIY ethos. Pop-punk not so much, the charts are heading in a different direction, and further away from pop-punk.

6.​Green Day headlined British Summertime in Hyde Park 2017, along with popular artist Justin Bieber, is that hinting that Pop Punk is coming back into the mainstream? What do you think?

Greenday have always been mainstream, I don't think that says much about its future.
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