Studying Further Maths In My Own Time Watch

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I've thought about it, but i just can't handle taking about 10 maths modules in june lol Along with 5 physics and 2 ICT , i guess this is the next best thing
I see. You could do them next year if you wanted, though.
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Well i guess i could say that i wanted to continue doing some form of maths even in a gap year..
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I don't understand why everyone says M2 is so difficult! I'm finding it to be one of the easiest - sitting the exam in Jan (Edexcel). I'm hating Fp1 though - so it really depends where your strenghts are. I love Physics. Mechanics therefore comes easier than the pure stuff.

Good LUck!
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im doing standard maths A2 but im taking a gap year and im thinking of doing AS/A2 Further as i wish to make an Economics application to LSE and Oxbridge next year. I am doing M1 and S1 as well as C1-4. For my Gap Year thinking of doing FP1, D1 and S2. Is this a good choice as i absolutely hate M1 and i cant bare the thought of M2
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If you dont mind, then do as many pure units as possible. Thats the more important stuff to be honest.
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if you dont study physics i reccommend dont do M1 because i found the exam Yesterday pretty Disgusting.
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tbh, physics doesn't give help that much with M1. It's the other way round if anything.

If you dont mind, then do as many pure units as possible. Thats the more important stuff to be honest.
ditto. i doubt D1 will help that much.

due to timetabling i'm not doing any stats modules. i win.
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Yeah, I'd recommend avoiding D1, it's not very challenging and it's dull as hell.
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hi. i am thinking about doing a similar thing but i have only decided i want to do my further maths as now or at least part of it. is it possible to do 1 or 2 module now whilst still doing my other modules? what im really asking is can school enter me into extra exams without starting it in September.
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if you dont study physics i reccommend dont do M1 because i found the exam Yesterday pretty Disgusting.
Not true. I study both, but haven't come onto the Forces & Motion topic yet (OCR). Which is where the Mechanics similarities lie, and I can tell you that M1 is very doable without Physics

Also, I've started M2 work, not far into it yet and it doesn't seem too bad so far. Like most have said, its just a more indepth extension of the material covered in M1.
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Unless you and your friend are really good in Math, please do not attempt this. S1 and M2 are fine but FP1..it is rather a big change from Core Math. The first chapter(inequality) itself can give you headaches if your base (C1-C4) is not strong! And not to mention chapters like differential equations, polar coordinates.....
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Unless you and your friend are really good in Math, please do not attempt this. S1 and M2 are fine but FP1..it is rather a big change from Core Math. The first chapter(inequality) itself can give you headaches if your base (C1-C4) is not strong! And not to mention chapters like differential equations, polar coordinates.....
This is tosh. total rubbish.
FP1 is easier than core 3. Fact.

And who said anything about exam board? Inequalities aren't even IN OCR or OCR (MEI) (the hardest one).

You do not need a strong base at all, and it isn't different from pure at all.... solutions of equations, mathematical proofs...? Only matrices that are a bit different, and that's just a graph in 3 dimensions.

And he doesn't have to be really good at maths. I'm an Arts students (English French and German) but do maths, and selfteach further maths...
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This is tosh. total rubbish.
FP1 is easier than core 3. Fact.

And who said anything about exam board? Inequalities aren't even IN OCR or OCR (MEI) (the hardest one).

You do not need a strong base at all, and it isn't different from pure at all.... solutions of equations, mathematical proofs...? Only matrices that are a bit different, and that's just a graph in 3 dimensions.

And he doesn't have to be really good at maths. I'm an Arts students (English French and German) but do maths, and selfteach further maths...
FP1 is easier than C3?? What nonsense! I standby on what I have said about requiring a strong base to attempt further math. And no one said anything about F.math being different from math! If you are doing application units then its fine. But for FP1,FP2 and FP3, you need to have a good base in core math.
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(Original post by Greatleysteg)
FP1 is easier than core 3. Fact.
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FP1 is easier than C3?? What nonsense!
Maybe, just maybe, different people find different subjects harder.
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FP1 is easier than C3?? What nonsense! I standby on what I have said about requiring a strong base to attempt further math. And no one said anything about F.math being different from math! If you are doing application units then its fine. But for FP1,FP2 and FP3, you need to have a good base in core math.
excuse me, but you wrote 'please don't attempt this' to the OP, if he isn't fantastic at maths, which is a load of RUBBISH! and I stand by what I said.
You also wrote 'it's a big change from core math' - conradicting yourself here, aren't you? You DID say it was different from math. How would having a good base in core math help you then, if it's so different (which it isn't)?

I repeat what I said first, Further Pure 1 is not different from pure at all really, there are no applied questions. This means that you were right to say you need a good base in core... (but you then contradicted yourself by claiming it's totally different) but you DON'T need to have done the core units first. I sat FP1 at the same time as Core 2 and mechanics, in the summer, along with D1 and NM. Ended up with 87 in FP1, which blows your theory out of the water.

I would in no way discourage someone from studying further maths, they don't have to be amazing as you say... I'm by no means a maths specialist, and did fine. And FP1 is easier than core 3, else it wouldn't be an AS unit, whilst Core 3 is an A2 unit. FP1 is 'further concepts for advanced maths' by it's name, which shows how shallowly submerged it is in the realms of advanced maths.
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Starting today, I will be self teaching myself FP2, D1 and S3 (MEI) and I've got 4 months until the exam. Anybody whose self teaching maths (or has done so), got any advice?

Gracias
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excuse me, but you wrote 'please don't attempt this' to the OP, if he isn't fantastic at maths, which is a load of RUBBISH! and I stand by what I said.
You also wrote 'it's a big change from core math' - conradicting yourself here, aren't you? You DID say it was different from math. How would having a good base in core math help you then, if it's so different (which it isn't)?

I repeat what I said first, Further Pure 1 is not different from pure at all really, there are no applied questions. This means that you were right to say you need a good base in core... (but you then contradicted yourself by claiming it's totally different) but you DON'T need to have done the core units first. I sat FP1 at the same time as Core 2 and mechanics, in the summer, along with D1 and NM. Ended up with 87 in FP1, which blows your theory out of the water.

I would in no way discourage someone from studying further maths, they don't have to be amazing as you say... I'm by no means a maths specialist, and did fine. And FP1 is easier than core 3, else it wouldn't be an AS unit, whilst Core 3 is an A2 unit. FP1 is 'further concepts for advanced maths' by it's name, which shows how shallowly submerged it is in the realms of advanced maths.
Apparently you misunderstood my post. By 'big change', I mean that he or she will be more exposed to harder math topics than before and because of this having a good base in core math will be helpful. There was NOTHING in my post saying that F.Math is different from math. Hmm, by 'really good', did I imply that he or she who wish to attempt further math should be 'fantastic' in math first? 'Fantastic and 'really good' There is a difference.
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excuse me, but you wrote 'please don't attempt this' to the OP, if he isn't fantastic at maths, which is a load of RUBBISH! and I stand by what I said.
You also wrote 'it's a big change from core math' - conradicting yourself here, aren't you? You DID say it was different from math. How would having a good base in core math help you then, if it's so different (which it isn't)?

I repeat what I said first, Further Pure 1 is not different from pure at all really, there are no applied questions. This means that you were right to say you need a good base in core... (but you then contradicted yourself by claiming it's totally different) but you DON'T need to have done the core units first. I sat FP1 at the same time as Core 2 and mechanics, in the summer, along with D1 and NM. Ended up with 87 in FP1, which blows your theory out of the water.

I would in no way discourage someone from studying further maths, they don't have to be amazing as you say... I'm by no means a maths specialist, and did fine. And FP1 is easier than core 3, else it wouldn't be an AS unit, whilst Core 3 is an A2 unit. FP1 is 'further concepts for advanced maths' by it's name, which shows how shallowly submerged it is in the realms of advanced maths.
I was thinking more of providing a reality check to dear pieboyjr here rather than discouraging him/her from studying further math. As for C3 being easier than FP1, I still don't agree. I did C1, C2, C3, and C4 in Jan 07 and C3(96)was the best out of the 4. I did FP1, FP2, and FP3 in June 07 and FP1 (95) was my weakest. Based on this, I can say that 'FP1 is harder than C3'
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I was thinking more of providing a reality check to dear pieboyjr here rather than discouraging him/her from studying further math. As for C3 being easier than FP1, I still don't agree. I did C1, C2, C3, and C4 in Jan 07 and C3(96)was the best out of the 4. I did FP1, FP2, and FP3 in June 07 and FP1 (95) was my weakest. Based on this, I can say that 'FP1 is harder than C3'
core THREE is the THIRD unit. It's an A2 unit.

FP ONE is the FIRST unit, and is an AS unit, explaining CONCEPTS.
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i think difficulty is relative, fp1 can throw up some killer questions esp on 2nd order differentials which the txt books dont really explain well !!

but the C3 txt book does have stuff that you dont really need to know for the exam !!!

but i think the hardest thing is probably staying the course, i teach myself and all i have is this forum,txt books and past papers and its really hard just staying motivated !

especially when you get to a topic and the answer is so simple but because the txt books/ or you dont have anyone to explain it to you, it can take ages to work out !!!

but stay the course and the results will be rewarding !!!
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