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Are you left wing, right wing or centrist?

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Reply 20

Bored123456789

Right-wing. Liberals these days are dumb nutjobs.

(edited 6 years ago)

Reply 21

MrSuavetopia

Original post by FloralLuxe

Everyone on TSR is right wing.

Incorrect. If we were to run a poll site wise, much like was done throughout the GE, you'll see Labour absolutely miles ahead of everyone else. See here as an example: https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4738372 Essentially, you're conflating a very vocal minority of right wingers with a vast silent majority the other way.

As for me, centre-left.

Reply 22

humanteaparty

Centralist because being solely left or right is dumb.

Reply 23

It's****ingWOODY

Pretty much central. I'm pretty right wing when it comes to immigration, and left wing when it comes to looking after the underprivileged and disabled citizens of Britain.

Reply 24

∆us

Economic: -8
Cultural: -80

You were spek'd as a liberal. You support a balance of both economic freedom and restriction alongside light restrictions on cultural freedom. You oppose economic deregulation and any reduction in taxes. Guess it's right since I'm a Lib Dem.

Reply 25

Ninja Squirrel

Original post by FloralLuxe

Lol you’re one of the good ones! Protect yourself.

😂Thanks

Reply 26

yudothis

Original post by Chaz254

Fake news. There are many, many leftists and supporters of the Socialist: Jeremy Corbyn.

True, but they don't tend to debate that much in Debate and Current Affairs. I could not tell you a single regular Corbynite posting in this sub. For right wing though I'd have a plethora.

Reply 27

DCFCfan4eva

it's hard to say.
in many social issues I tend to be quite left wing but in moral issues I'm quite traditional so far more right wing

Reply 28

yungaheartz

Original post by Dan Deplorable

Wrong - the vast majority of students are mindless left-wing sheep.

Ha the left are a lot more open-minded than 'we believe everything the media tells us to believe' right-wing morons. So definitely not mindless. Nice try though

Reply 29

Bored123456789

Original post by yudothis

True, but they don't tend to debate that much in Debate and Current Affairs. I could not tell you a single regular Corbynite posting in this sub. For right wing though I'd have a plethora.

Because they know they would get torn apart in an actual debate. So they keep their deluded thoughts to themselves.

Reply 30

MrSuavetopia

Original post by Chaz254

Because they know they would get torn apart in an actual debate. So they keep their deluded thoughts to themselves.

I'm sure you're capable of articulating your point without insulting an entire side of the political spectrum in every post. It doesn't add anything to your point in the slightest.

Reply 31

Bored123456789

Original post by MrDystopia

I'm sure you're capable of articulating your point without insulting an entire side of the political spectrum in every post. It doesn't add anything to your point in the slightest.

Are you referring to the word 'deluded', which you take as an insult? It's a fitting adjective and if it hurts you so much, act like it's not there. That sentence still makes sense without the word 'deluded in it, so read the rest of it and take it in.

right wing

Original post by Chaz254

Deluded, dumb nutjobs. Whilst it's not offensive it's rather boring to see.

Reply 34

Jimbo Jones

Original post by humanteaparty

Centralist because being solely left or right is dumb.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation

Reply 35

Jimbo Jones

being socially liberal isn't "left wing" though. you're right wing. you're a libertarian, like me (very right wing). in fact, in my opinion, being socially liberal is appeal to right wing values of individualism/freedom.

Reply 36

Bored123456789

Original post by MrDystopia

Deluded, dumb nutjobs. Whilst it's not offensive it's rather boring to see.

Ok fair enough on the dumb nutjobs, but deluded is a fitting adjective, not an insult.

Reply 37

supalape

I would consider myself very left on social issues but much more moderate for economic issues. That being said I'd vote Labour without any hesitation

Reply 38

Jimbo Jones

sorry I wasn't imply that you said "left wing" - I implied that you were suggesting that you were less right wing (i.e. centre right) due to your social liberalism (meaning civil libertarianism)

I place myself in the centre-right rather than in the right-wing 'cos I'm in favour of loose immigration and all sorts of things which would cause multiple strokes to those who identify as right-wing (as it might be obvious from the responses in this thread).

but that's not "left wing" once again; radical libertarians (right wingers on the polar opposite of the left) are massively in favour of open immigration (i.e. gary johnson, leader of the libertarian party USA). being right wing has nothing to do with immigration - it has everything to do with either (a) nationalism, or potentially (b) neoliberal globalism, and hence you *might* say that it is an aspect of capitalism, but only in the trans-national sense and not the national sense. in fact, it isn't necessarily true that immigration is inherently to do with labour, especially in the case of refugees/asylum. therefore, how can you argue that it is left leaning in that regard?

Reply 39

Jimbo Jones

(i) sorry, look at my post again - I forgot to put my firsts point out of the quotation.
(ii) then how can you say you're not right wing when immigration is not a left wing tenet? either it's right or left in this sense (and I suggest, if anything at all, it's right wing); there's no such principle as "centre" because centre is a relation between the two, not an absolutely different category.

Radical libertarians like Hans Hoppe are in favour of draconian restrictions in the movement of people.

he can't be "radical" then because surely that violates the non-aggression principle? rothbard, for instance, is a "radical" libertarian - do you think he'd have ever endorsed restrictions on immigration? that just boggles my mind

And a **** ton of new age libertarians follow Hoppe. Even the best of them, like Friedman, had (imo totally unsupported) reservations about immigration who he thought was incompatible with a welfare state (while i favour both a welfare state and immigration).

and libertarians do not ensdorse the welfare state in the first place, hence the qualification that there should be restrictions only in so far as one does* exist

The point is that a lot of libertarians do not identify as "right-wing" (rather they identify as radical centrists or centre-right)

nope, that's not true at all and I have never seen that being at all the case. nowhere in the world are libertarians known to be "centrists". and why centre right? why not centre-left? if it is inherently of the centre, how can it be one or the other?

'cos conservatives and nowadays people like Alt-righters also call themselves "Right-wing" and they'd rather be shot in the face (as I would) with a magnum than be put in the same category as alt-righters and even contemporary conservatives like Hannity.

conservatives =/= libertarians. they're both right wing, sure, because they're capitalists, but libertarians who are social reformers (i.e. ending the war on drugs, legalising same sex marriage, etc) are inherently not* conservative and appealing to authority or tradition. and the alt-right is not libertarian - the alt-right is identitarian, or nationalist. you can be both and be either right wing or left wing economically - I'm just saying