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    I applied to UCAS with 5 choices a while ago. But I stumbled across New College of the Humanities and realised you can actually apply independently.

    I was wondering whether this uni is academically respected and actually offer a good education? My Head of Sixth told me they have a few famous faces for show but that actually the teaching there isn’t that great and it’s a quite poorly respected institution.

    I do quite like the Major/Minor structure and would probably Apply for Politics w/ Economics. I also remember reading articles a while back that this was going to be the uni that rivalled Oxbridge, is this true in any way?

    Has anyone here gone to this uni, considered applying to it or even know much about it?

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    It isn't 'respected' because no-one has heard of it. Its just another private college pretending its a Uni - and its here entirely to make ££ out of gullible students. At the last intake it had about 200 students.

    Go there and you will spend the rest of your life explaining what it is. You'd be better off giving your ££ fees to charity.
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    This will give you the background : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Co...the_Humanities
    Its a total waste of money - on every level.

    Go to a REAL University instead.
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    It's at best a high-minded thought experiment of the concept of university study by some upper middle class white male academics, and at worst another predatory for-profit university which has the benefit of some hefty academic names attached to try and attract people to it.

    Of course, in time it may yet prove to be a good producer of future academics, but it's far too young to be able to determine that now anyway - we won't really see the long term success or failure of their students for another 10-20 years at least. Additionally, given the cost and it's status as a for-profit organisation, most of the students are probably from fairly privileged backgrounds who would do "well" in life no matter where they studied as a direct result of their situation and connections in life.
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    (Original post by GovernmentEarner)
    I applied to UCAS with 5 choices a while ago. But I stumbled across New College of the Humanities and realised you can actually apply independently.

    I was wondering whether this uni is academically respected and actually offer a good education? My Head of Sixth told me they have a few famous faces for show but that actually the teaching there isn’t that great and it’s a quite poorly respected institution.

    I do quite like the Major/Minor structure and would probably Apply for Politics w/ Economics. I also remember reading articles a while back that this was going to be the uni that rivalled Oxbridge, is this true in any way?

    Has anyone here gone to this uni, considered applying to it or even know much about it?

    Thanks
    Teaching is apparently pretty good (one-to-one tutorials - it's what allows them to call themselves a rival to Oxbridge). They say that student complete "twice as many assignments" as students at other RGs, even though the length and difficulty of them is unknown. But it does exceed expectations a lot more than any other uni in this country, so yeah, that's something.

    The facilities are all over the place (some of them are UofL stock, the rest are a bunch of terraced houses in Bloomsbury). The famous speaker series sounds great until you realise its drawbacks - the famous visiting speakers are only booked for maximum a few hours each academic year, aren't available for weekly teaching, and other universities in London run far better lecture series independently of their degree courses (LSE's one is the best; UCL has a few good social sciencey events as well). Entry requirement-wise, it's far below anything Oxbridge can offer - AAA entry requirements don't make you Oxbridge v2, they make you a mid-tier RG. I can't imagine the offer rate to be very low given the overall lack of awareness and general willingness of high achievers to stick with recognisable universities.

    Edit: No idea about grad prospects or the presence of graduate employers on campus. The presence of legal employers doesn't seem to be that great... you can tell just by going on any law firm's website and looking at their list of planned Open Days, from which NCH is consistently lacking.
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    Its degrees are validated by Southampton Solent University.

    Do you really want that on your degree certificate?
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    It's a for-profit experiment trying to mimic US colleges which is backed by private investors.

    Dont bother if you're not an upper class toff who doesnt have a job waiting after you've done your pretentious 3 yrs at a few terraced houses
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    I'm currently in my second year at NCH, studying Philosophy with English. From a personal perspective I really love studying here and teaching is really quite good. There are only 5 people in my lectures so there is a LOT of opportunity to actually talk to lecturers. On top of this I also get one 3 to 1, and one 1 to 1 tutorial per subject, per week. For these I read academic papers and write essays. A lot of my friends who have graduated have gone on to do very cool things, from working with charities, civil service, and big law firms to masters in Oxford, St Andrews, UCL, etc. In terms of the famous academics we have, it's true that they are not part of the weekly teaching, but I have had the opportunity to talk at length to Dan Dennett, Simon Blackburn, Christopher Ricks, etc. Also, our main teaching staff are brilliant - just because they are not famous it does not mean they are not good! It's true that most people don't know about NCH, and I do have to explain a lot, but I'm not studying here to get a fancy name on my CV, I'm here to learn, to make friends and to develop as a person! It is up to you what you make of NCH and whether it is a good place for you to study, but to dismiss it as an institution because it is 'unknown' or other preconceptions that you have is just a bit silly - find out more about it and make an informed decision! I'm happy to answer any questions you guys might have.
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    (Original post by borbv)
    I'm currently in my second year at NCH, studying Philosophy with English. From a personal perspective I really love studying here and teaching is really quite good. There are only 5 people in my lectures so there is a LOT of opportunity to actually talk to lecturers. On top of this I also get one 3 to 1, and one 1 to 1 tutorial per subject, per week. For these I read academic papers and write essays. A lot of my friends who have graduated have gone on to do very cool things, from working with charities, civil service, and big law firms to masters in Oxford, St Andrews, UCL, etc. In terms of the famous academics we have, it's true that they are not part of the weekly teaching, but I have had the opportunity to talk at length to Dan Dennett, Simon Blackburn, Christopher Ricks, etc. Also, our main teaching staff are brilliant - just because they are not famous it does not mean they are not good! It's true that most people don't know about NCH, and I do have to explain a lot, but I'm not studying here to get a fancy name on my CV, I'm here to learn, to make friends and to develop as a person! It is up to you what you make of NCH and whether it is a good place for you to study, but to dismiss it as an institution because it is 'unknown' or other preconceptions that you have is just a bit silly - find out more about it and make an informed decision! I'm happy to answer any questions you guys might have.
    oh cut the crap. It's nothing more than a jumped-up profit making institution made for children of rich parents who'll have a nice job waiting for them at the end of it.
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    (Original post by returnmigrant)
    Its degrees are validated by Southampton Solent University.

    Do you really want that on your degree certificate?
    Friend of mine just graduated from NCH with around 85 (in arts/humanities). That alone tells you everything you need to know.


    (Original post by GovernmentEarner)
    I applied to UCAS with 5 choices a while ago. But I stumbled across New College of the Humanities and realised you can actually apply independently.

    I was wondering whether this uni is academically respected and actually offer a good education? My Head of Sixth told me they have a few famous faces for show but that actually the teaching there isn’t that great and it’s a quite poorly respected institution.

    I do quite like the Major/Minor structure and would probably Apply for Politics w/ Economics. I also remember reading articles a while back that this was going to be the uni that rivalled Oxbridge, is this true in any way?

    Has anyone here gone to this uni, considered applying to it or even know much about it?

    Thanks

    It isn't that respected. The famous faces pop in once an academic year, some once a term. But it's not enough to make a university. The principal teaching is done by academics from the likes of RHUL and Hull. Some Warwicks and some low-ranked tutors from Oxford. Also most everyone is an exhibitioner, so they pay (up front, mind, as it's not covered by SLC loans) around the £9k the traditional unis are charging. That said, they do attract a particular crowd -- so if you want to rub noses with rich men's not-so-bright sons, get yourself there.
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    (Original post by Pretty Flako)
    oh cut the crap. It's nothing more than a jumped-up profit making institution made for children of rich parents who'll have a nice job waiting for them at the end of it.
    Not that different for a number of those at Oxbridge, to be honest.
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    (Original post by Notorious_B.I.G.)
    Not that different for a number of those at Oxbridge, to be honest.
    Ermm no. You actually have to be intelligent to get into oxbridge.
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    (Original post by Pretty Flako)
    Ermm no. You actually have to be intelligent to get into oxbridge.
    You were talking about exit. Not entry.

    On exit, a lot of the Oxbridge lot rely on family.
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    (Original post by Notorious_B.I.G.)
    You were talking about exit. Not entry.

    On exit, a lot of the Oxbridge lot rely on family.
    I implied entry too. NCH grads will land job that are otherwise inaccessible to them. Oxbridge students will have access to those jobs regardless of family connections, they just use whatever leverage they can.

    It's also incomparable. Oxbridge is far larger whereas NCH has <200 students.
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    You are assuming a lot about me and about NCH - you don't know where I come from. NCH offers up to 100% bursaries and academic scholarships so as not to exclude people from getting a good education! I don't know why you hate NCH so much without knowing very much about it at all, but as a current student here, I think NCH is a great university and I am very happy with my decision to come and study here. I'm not here to preach for NCH, but I'm not sure why you're here to preach against it either...
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    (Original post by GovernmentEarner)
    I applied to UCAS with 5 choices a while ago. But I stumbled across New College of the Humanities and realised you can actually apply independently.

    I was wondering whether this uni is academically respected and actually offer a good education? My Head of Sixth told me they have a few famous faces for show but that actually the teaching there isn’t that great and it’s a quite poorly respected institution.

    I do quite like the Major/Minor structure and would probably Apply for Politics w/ Economics. I also remember reading articles a while back that this was going to be the uni that rivalled Oxbridge, is this true in any way?

    Has anyone here gone to this uni, considered applying to it or even know much about it?

    Thanks
    Hey so I’m studying at NCH, I definitely don’t come from a wealthy background, NCH is actually unique and for students who want to study a rigorous course. Many of our graduates have received training contracts from places such as Hogan Lovells, Clifford Chance and Slaughter and May. Many of our students that have just graduated have been accepted to do masters at Oxford and Cambridge. This alone was due to the hard work of both students and academics alike. Our university is small and of course as time passes it will become known this is just a matter of time. It’s not just a private university trying to make £££ off the students, some students are offered a scholarship and recently the fees have been reduced to £9250. I think it’s best to come visit the university yourself. I personally would be happy to show you around and answer any other questions you may have. Wishing you all the best in your future.
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    (Original post by Pretty Flako)
    oh cut the crap. It's nothing more than a jumped-up profit making institution made for children of rich parents who'll have a nice job waiting for them at the end of it.
    Well this is completely false. I’m not sure where you’re getting this information from, it would be great if you could come see the university yourself instead of tapping on your keyboard false information. The next open day will be 13th January 2018, if you want to have a first hand eexperience drop me a DM. Have a fab day
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    (Original post by GovernmentEarner)
    Well you’ve successfully made me not apply lol
    Hi @GovernmentEarner, I sincerely hope that isn't the case.

    I'm a current second year at NCH and I guess I'd just like to "fact-check" some of the claims that have been made on the thread so far.

    1. Being 'respected' is obviously subjective, so I can't say whether overall the college is 'respected.' I can, however, point you towards our website which highlights some of our amazing graduate destinations, some of which may surprise you considering we've only had three graduating years so far.

    2. I wouldn't say we're pretending to be a uni. When you come to our Open Day, Professor A.C. Grayling will tell you about how we are a college of colleagues learning together, by design. With that said, a lot of what we're doing here naturally shares in common a lot with universities.

    3. I wish money didn't have to come into any of this, but as you may know, NCH has recently brought down its fees to £9,250 - the same as most other higher education providers. This means, between student finance and the scholarships/bursaries available, NCH is not going to let a bright student who has successfully made their way through the application process slip away on financial terms.

    4. "Value for money" - We haven't been around for too long, and only have a few graduating cohorts, but even in our formative years, our teaching can still be said to be the gold standard for humanities. The most recent NSS supports this, saying we're the best institution to study many humanities subjects in London.

    I really hope you haven't been put off. Hopefully, you'll get in contact with our admissions staff who can give you more info, organise a personal visit to the college or book you on an open day. It would be a real shame to lose potential students solely based on the opinions of others.
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    (Original post by Notorious_B.I.G.)
    Friend of mine just graduated from NCH with around 85 (in arts/humanities). That alone tells you everything you need to know.





    It isn't that respected. The famous faces pop in once an academic year, some once a term. But it's not enough to make a university. The principal teaching is done by academics from the likes of RHUL and Hull. Some Warwicks and some low-ranked tutors from Oxford. Also most everyone is an exhibitioner, so they pay (up front, mind, as it's not covered by SLC loans) around the £9k the traditional unis are charging. That said, they do attract a particular crowd -- so if you want to rub noses with rich men's not-so-bright sons, get yourself there.

    85 is an exceptionally high First Class Degree is it not? In examinations that were set and marked by the University of London, not NCH.

    Just to clarify that NCH students ARE eligible for tuition fee loan and maintenance loans from Student Finance England. Fees for 2018 entry are £9,250. We offer academic merit-based scholarships worth up to £2,000 and means-tested bursaries worth up to £3,085 to students who have the exceptional academic ability required but would be unable to attend the College without additional financial support.

    Having looked through our website, I found one member of the faculty who had attended Hull for their undergraduate degree and another who studied at Warwick. I also found among our day to day teaching faculty nine who have studied/taught at the University of Oxford, ten from the University of Cambridge. The overwhelming majority of the remaining academics have studied/taught at LSE, UCL, Bristol, Kings College London, Manchester, York, Imperial and the Courtauld.

    We'd be delighted to welcome any of you to visit the College so that you can see it for yourself, and make up your own mind.

    Best regards,
    Elizabeth
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    (Original post by New College of the Humanities)
    85 is an exceptionally high First Class Degree is it not? In examinations that were set and marked by the University of London, not NCH.

    Just to clarify that NCH students ARE eligible for tuition fee loan and maintenance loans from Student Finance England. Fees for 2018 entry are £9,250. We offer academic merit-based scholarships worth up to £2,000 and means-tested bursaries worth up to £3,085 to students who have the exceptional academic ability required but would be unable to attend the College without additional financial support.

    Having looked through our website, I found one member of the faculty who had attended Hull for their undergraduate degree and another who studied at Warwick. I also found among our day to day teaching faculty nine who have studied/taught at the University of Oxford, ten from the University of Cambridge. The overwhelming majority of the remaining academics have studied/taught at LSE, UCL, Bristol, Kings College London, Manchester, York, Imperial and the Courtauld.

    We'd be delighted to welcome any of you to visit the College so that you can see it for yourself, and make up your own mind.

    Best regards,
    Elizabeth
    I dont think you get it; most normal people dont want to go to a uni with 0 reputation and brand name which seems like a cheap rip-off of american colleges whilst spending their 3 yrs with a bunch of rich kids.
 
 
 
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