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computer science vs computing

hello i shall be applying to uni soon and i am not sure which uni to apply to i live in the uk area can someone reccomend some good unis in the uk area.

Plus i have been looking through many courses can someone point out what the difference between taking a computing course and a computer science cours which one should i take if i would like to go into networking.

Also which areas of computing are in highest pay.
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and can anyone reccomend any good courses and careers site
Reply 2
I may be wrong but I'd guess that if there is any standard difference between Computing and Computer Science, it would be that Computer Science covers computing from a more theoretical (and 'mathsy') angle, whereas Computing maybe covers it from a more practical point of view. I think the best idea would be to try and look at the content of specific courses you are interested in - you can probably find this information on departmental web pages - and, if the courses are modular, try and have a look at the different modules you can do to see which courses have networking/data communications sort of modules.
There are lots of good Unis for Computing/Computer Science - you could maybe look at a league table or something like that for ideas but make sure you check out the courses before deciding to apply on the basis that someone else thinks they are good Universities :tongue: especially since you already seem to know the kind of thing you want to do.
Hope that helps.
Jenn xx
Reply 3
qaz__999
Also which areas of computing are in highest pay.

http://www.jobstats.co.uk/jobstats.d/SKILL.html
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Computer Science involves learning about existing technologies and theories to create the technology of tomorrow. Computing however, is just concerned with how computer technology operates currently.
is computer sci employable? wot can u do after the degree?
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What you can go into with Comp Sci is likely to depend on what (if anything) you 'specialised' in, for example if your course is modular and you took a lot of programming modules, you might go into programming whereas if you did a lot of networking modules you might go into networking/telecommunications. It depends on what you enjoy and what you have most experience in I guess. As well as jobs in computing, you'll probably be qualified for a few other types of jobs (e.g. you might use the maths skills from your course to go into the financial sector). It's not very comprehensive but my Uni (Warwick) has a short document about where Comp Sci students go when they graduate here.
Jenn xx
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Comp Sci is definitely employable...but like Jenn said, it depends on what you specialise in. Most, if not all, Comp Sci degrees have a generic first year but then in the second and third year students can choose from a number of options - such as graphics, artificial intelligence, networking, object orientated programming etc.
who_me
Comp Sci is definitely employable...but like Jenn said, it depends on what you specialise in. Most, if not all, Comp Sci degrees have a generic first year but then in the second and third year students can choose from a number of options - such as graphics, artificial intelligence, networking, object orientated programming etc.


err... so is it ok if im dun so physics, IT and arts/designs in AL?
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lost_in_cyberia
err... so is it ok if im dun so physics, IT and arts/designs in AL?


Lots of courses require maths. Not all of them though.
Reply 10
Tev
Lots of courses require maths. Not all of them though.


This is the problem I encountered when applying for Comp Sci at Universities - a number of the top uni's wanted Maths to full A Level which I didn't have. However, there are a lot of good universities that run respected Comp Sci courses that don't require A-Level maths, such as Kent, Loughborough, Birmingham, Surrey, Sussex and East Anglia.
ok thanks so does it mean computer science includes a lot of IT stuff? Do u think it will be good for a law conversion afterwards? Or would u more prefer to be on the business track in the 1st degree then a law conversion?
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lost_in_cyberia
ok thanks so does it mean computer science includes a lot of IT stuff? Do u think it will be good for a law conversion afterwards? Or would u more prefer to be on the business track in the 1st degree then a law conversion?


Most Comp Sci courses involve a lot of IT stuff, accompanied by maths and physics stuff. If you want to do law I don't think comp sci would be the best way to go...maybe something like history or politics and then a law conversion would be better?
Reply 13
who_me
Computer Science involves learning about existing technologies and theories to create the technology of tomorrow. Computing however, is just concerned with how computer technology operates currently.

this is what a professor told me, this is the answer to thread, in almost his exact words!

computing is a lot more vocational
Reply 14
MozMan
this is what a professor told me, this is the answer to thread, in almost his exact words!

computing is a lot more vocational


I wouldn't read too much into the name of the course. I'm at Imperial studying Computing, and my friend is at Cambridge studying Computer Science. The courses, with the exception of the physics component of his NatSci, seem pretty much identical thus far.

Ben
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Someone should emphasise that, Computing at Imperial is like Computer Science everywhere else. I don't know why they call it something different, but it certainly isn't "a lot more vocational", it doesn't "include IT stuff". You can tell, because they want Maths :smile:
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chaoscomplex
Someone should emphasise that, Computing at Imperial is like Computer Science everywhere else. I don't know why they call it something different, but it certainly isn't "a lot more vocational", it doesn't "include IT stuff". You can tell, because they want Maths :smile:


Awhile back I asked a 3rd/4th yr why they call it Computing, it's something to do with it being administered from the Faculty of Engineering, as oppose to the Faculty of Phys Sci like other unis. This means we get an MEng/BEng not an Msc/Bsc. Strangely, JMC gives you an MSc/BSc I think, when it's "maths and computing" but I think officially its "Maths and computer science".Since from what i gather you people do 50pc of our stuff and 50pc maths...maybe they had to just choose which letters to give and randomly opted for the MSc/BSc meaning you guys get the "Maths & Comp Sci* title as oppose to Maths and Computing.Actually, I know what it is, if they call ur course "Maths and Computing" there's a clash anyway between Eng and Sc and neither course is dominant, but callin it maths + comp sci, they can give youo guys the xSc with no clash.

Anyway for the Imperial course Computing=Computer Science at all other unis, as chaoscomplex said....except from what i understand we get way more work than other people :frown:
Some unis offer both computing and comp sci, check carefully to see the difference. I think before pigeon holing either course, you'd be wise to check their content anyway, as demonstrated by the Imperial course there are often exceptions to a rule.

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