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Surrounded by communist, toxicly feminist ideologues in university. :( Watch

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    The operative word being ideologues. My classes and my social group are mostly filled with anarcho-communists, communists or socialist ideologues, and these same ideologues are also toxicly feminist. (It is becomming more and more apparent these people that I'm surrounded by cannot hold a respectful conversation about politics.)

    I want to open dialogues with people and debate, but how they're acting is just ridiculous and immature, and sometimes at very inappropriate times.

    Is anyone in the same boat?
    What are your thoughts?

    It's isolating and can be humilating.
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    I used to think this sort of behaviour was a hallmark of immaturity, but these days I think it is actually a sincerely held belief on their own parts that these sorts cannot possibly be wrong.
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    The operative word being ideologues. My classes and my social group are mostly filled with anarcho-communists, communists or socialist ideologues, and these same ideologues are also toxicly feminist. (It is becomming more and more apparent these people that I'm surrounded by cannot hold a respectful conversation about politics.)

    I want to open dialogues with people and debate, but how they're acting is just ridiculous and immature, and sometimes at very inappropriate times.

    Is anyone in the same boat?
    What are your thoughts?

    It's isolating and can be humilating.
    Simple solution, study a quantitive subject like engineering, maths or physics. These "educated" "intellectual" feminists tend not to be there as they are usually too thick to follow the steps to get to an answer.

    They are only good for writing 3000 word essays on how to tie their shoelaces and how "society" averts them from studying engineering, however the truth is they are too thick and lazy to do it
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I want to open dialogues with people and debate, but how they're acting is just ridiculous and immature, and sometimes at very inappropriate times.
    Don't bother. That's my advice.

    You aren't going to change their minds. You aren't going to get coherent rebuttals from them. Ultimately you aren't going to get anything valuable out of the exchange.

    When you want to open a debate about something, just remind yourself of this. It isn't worth it.
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    (Original post by gjd800)
    I used to think this sort of behaviour was a hallmark of immaturity, but these days I think it is actually a sincerely held belief on their own parts that these sorts cannot possibly be wrong.
    It genuinely is. There was one earlier saying "ethical consumption under capitalism is a joke" in similar words and that capitalism necessitates imperialism. I wouldn't mind if they held this belief, but it was a snide remark and there was no intent to allow for a debate after saying it.

    I have a four year course with them, and I usually thrive on debates; it just feels like I've been robbed of an opportunity just because they're unwilling to actually consider other viewpoints, despite having very capable faculties.

    (There are one or two, but they're the minority.)

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    Simple solution, study a quantitive subject like engineering, maths or physics. These "educated" "intellectual" feminists tend not to be there as they are usually too thick to follow the steps to get to an answer.

    They are only good for writing 3000 word essays on how to tie their shoelaces and how "society" averts them from studying engineering, however the truth is they are too thick and lazy to do it
    I study two languages. I initially intended to study German and chemistry, but it was not to be. Another language is still very good in course content though; stuff I love doing. I prioritised languages because I like them just a tiny bit more and it's more relevant to my desired career (although if I had all the time in the world I'd definitely study disciplines of chemistry and physics.)

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    Don't bother. That's my advice.

    You aren't going to change their minds. You aren't going to get coherent rebuttals from them. Ultimately you aren't going to get anything valuable out of the exchange.

    When you want to open a debate about something, just remind yourself of this. It isn't worth it.
    I hate accepting this fact, but I know it's true (nigh) all of the time. Hmm. Perhaps I should come back onto this forum, even though this place had some similar problems. Or the MHoC.

    I appreciate the replies; it was initially going to be a much longer post, but I decided against it at the last minute.
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    Although they have done so much worse.*
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    I hate accepting this fact, but I know it's true (nigh) all of the time. Hmm. Perhaps I should come back onto this forum, even though this place had some similar problems. Or the MHoC.
    Yeah this place does have the same problems, but also some good posters. I think the difference is that on a forum you can just cut and run when you figure out that someone isn't actually going to have a meaningful debate with you. One thing that stops me debating some people IRL is I know it's going to end up going on for longer than I can be bothered with, even if it turns out to be totally unproductive.
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    Yeah feminism is the espousal of equal gender rights.

    That aside, if what you say is true, these are not professionals.
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    (Original post by SWCoffee)
    Yeah feminism is the espousal of equal gender rights.

    That aside, if what you say is true, these are not professionals.
    I support gender equality; they just attribute any problem to the patriarchy, toxic masculinity and white privilege. And can be completely inappropriate and hurtful at times because of it.
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    Those are radicals. Ignore.
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    Moving this over to AoEI
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    Oh sack up and stop being so whiny.
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    Pay no mind to these pathetic individuals. Nobody else in the real world does.

    Remember they will likely remain fat, ugly, and lonely forever, hence losing life by default. Attractive people always win, and only unattractive people tend to be drawn to this stuff since they are the ones who face "injustices" in life. This is only a general rule, of course.
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    The whole point of politics is that you are able to debate with people who you disagree with, but that it doesn't become personal.

    You need to be able to detatch the person from the politics, to have an open debate.

    I would consider myself to be more socialist than anything else, but I have some friends at Uni who are right wing. It's all about listeining and debating, and not being intolerant of other peoples views, no matter how much you disagree.
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    Btw a true Marxist is probably not that bothered about feminism, they have other priorities.
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    Op you sound like the type of person that always thinks they're right and doesn't bother listening to anyone elses views. You're the one that it would be a waste of time debating.
 
 
 
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