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ERm, I think we've acknowledged that we die.
The REASONS for dying helps answer the oringial question
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thanks for that lol although my original debate was centered around ' what is the point in living if were only going to die' :rolleyes:
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why are we born to die is it just some arse watchin laughin gettin his kicks from watching us shrink and die?
We aren't born to die. We are born to continue human life by reproducing ourselves
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The REASONS for dying helps answer the oringial question
Arguable, but if you are giving the scientific explanation for why we die, its a bit irrelevant if the topic is why are we born to die, isnt it?
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But then simarlarly, why are we born to die?
thats my question :confused: the most common sense thing i can think of is god doesnt exist, nature is clearly responsible for life and death as it cannot keep 1 organism alive forever so to keep the population going another organism takes over.
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Arguable, but if you are giving the scientific explanation for why we die, its a bit irrelevant if the topic is why are we born to die, isnt it?
The point I think is that we die because it happens scientifically and we 'know' the answer rather than us just dying with no reason. SO we die unavoidably; thus we are not "born to die"?? wth.. lol
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We aren't born to die. We are born to continue human life by reproducing ourselves
i think thats the best/most sensible answer so far actually
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We aren't born to die. We are born to continue human life by reproducing ourselves
so we don't do any other things other than have sex everyday? human are not animals
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so we don't do any other things other than have sex everyday? human are not animals
We are animals. Just clever ones. The more clever an animal/organism is, the more (generally) it does.
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so we don't do any other things other than have sex everyday? human are not animals
he wasn't implying that i dont think, our purpose is to survive, breed and pass on our genes anything else along the way is a bonus
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he wasn't implying that i dont think, our purpose is to survive, breed and pass on our genes anything else along the way is a bonus
exactly
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we aren't born to die....we were born to pass on genes....we are a huge chemical reaction gone horribly out of control

however there is hope. We have developed technology capable of propergating data via books, the internet etc etc.....these are called memes. Once we have technology to make use of this data....we will become obsolete....but who likes the thought of that anyway!
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we aren't born to die....we were born to pass on genes....we are a huge chemical reaction gone horribly out of control

however there is hope. We have developed technology capable of propergating data via books, the internet etc etc.....these are called memes. Once we have technology to make use of this data....we will become obsolete....but who likes the thought of that anyway!
lol chemical reaction gone wrong :confused:
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so we don't do any other things other than have sex everyday? human are not animals
we are virus.
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We are animals. Just clever ones. The more clever an animal/organism is, the more (generally) it does.
yeah, i was going to edit my post, yes we are animals, and yes we are clever ones, so reproduction is not only purpose of our life, if that's the case, there won't be any scientist, teachers etc.

Agree we are designed to attract opposite sex, but your statement 'We are born to continue human life by reproducing ourselves' well, that's not me then... We are born for lots of other things.
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we are virus.
then why am i talking to you, virus are not alive...
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he wasn't implying that i dont think, our purpose is to survive, breed and pass on our genes anything else along the way is a bonus
our purpose is not only to survive but to live as good as we can...not to breed but until find someone you love and want to have a child. lol there is more then enough humans on earth
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yeah, i was going to edit my post, yes we are animals, and yes we are clever ones, so reproduction is not only purpose of our life, if that's the case, there won't be any scientist, teachers etc.

Agree we are designed to attract opposite sex, but your statement 'We are born to continue human life by reproducing ourselves' well, that's not me then... We are born for lots of things.
we are biologically born to reproduce, but the mind must see other purposes
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no not a virus.....now you're getting silly. We are a chemical reaction. Look at it this way.

There are a certain number of resources available on the planet (i.e a certain number of atoms). There are lots of reactions that can take place. What are the most common atomic configurations? Well any chemical reaction which causes further propogation of the same reaction is no doubt going to result in lots of the same chemical configuration. This first happened in the formations of clay and such...the creation of clay propogated more clay to be made....hence why there is loads of clay around everywhere. Humans are the same. The Nucleides we are made up of are replicators....they create copies of themselves, and hence form lets of the same chemical configuration. The most successful replicators tend to replicate alot. Humans are VERY SUCCESSFUL replicators...that's obvious because there are lots of humans. Now you might say "All our genes are different" but in fact we are 99.9% alike.....so that 99.9% of genes (dawkins refers to most of those as Selfish genes because they dont do anything) is successful. We are a chemical reaction gone out of control...we are a product of self-replication. Now computers can self-replictate data much more efficiently than chemical reactions (chemical reactions go wrong...hence mutations and such). Hence computer data will become the future self-replicator....and we will be superseeded, once again by something of our own creation!
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no not a virus.....now you're getting silly. We are a chemical reaction. Look at it this way.
Hehe i was kiddin :rolleyes:
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