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Could this ultimately trigger a... Polexit?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-voting-rights
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(Original post by Joinedup)
Could this ultimately trigger a... Polexit?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-voting-rights
Would be interesting to be honest. One hopes so, then the other 25....

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The way I see it Poland is only in the EU for two reasons

They probably benefit from it quite a lot given all the Polish economic migrants in rest of Europe and Poland being a poorer country means you get a lot of greedy people opening factories there (Cadburys owned by Kraft?) so they can pay them peanuts compared to British workers.


Another is they see EU as security against Russia who they dislike because of what the Soviets did (and going back further in history) Old prejudices really..

Oddly enough they don't seem to have much of a grudge against Germans which makes you question what really went on...
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Hungary is going to block the move.

Basically proving EU doesn't actually protect democracy and its more about back room alliances and deals than good policy
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Not a good idea to be honest


Why the EU wants to be disliked so much they're just showing themselves as bullies in a time when there is growing anti-EU sentiment


Has anyone noticed that EU officials always call it anti-European rather than anti-EU.
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(Original post by Joinedup)
Could this ultimately trigger a... Polexit?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-voting-rights
let's hope so, we need as many allies as possible now to fight against the EU fake democracy

hope May mans up and supports Poland
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let's hope so, we need as many allies as possible now to fight against the EU fake democracy

hope May mans up and supports Poland
Seriously? Poland? So you want to saddle up with Poland? What is going on with the world? Would you have closer ties with Russia too?

Just out of curiosity - have you ever actually visited Europe? Do you know anything about it?
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Gdansk for the memories
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Strike while the iron is hot; recognise the Catalan government.
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Ah, further evidence of how cancerous the EU is.
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(Original post by Joinedup)
Could this ultimately trigger a... Polexit?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-voting-rights
I don't think so, but this decision will change current Polish government ratings from 50 to 60% of support.

(Original post by TacoDestroyer69)
The way I see it Poland is only in the EU for two reasons

They probably benefit from it quite a lot given all the Polish economic migrants in rest of Europe and Poland being a poorer country means you get a lot of greedy people opening factories there (Cadburys owned by Kraft?) so they can pay them peanuts compared to British workers.


Another is they see EU as security against Russia who they dislike because of what the Soviets did (and going back further in history) Old prejudices really..
Exactly.
Rusophobia though is older than that of Soviet times. We have a very long tradition of wars against each other. The Soviet invasion, and Soviet puppet-state afterwards was just the next stage of the neverending conflict.

(Original post by TacoDestroyer69)
Oddly enough they don't seem to have much of a grudge against Germans which makes you question what really went on...
We have, but in daily life, money makes "friends".

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Would you have closer ties with Russia too?
There are huge differences between Poland and Russia, they are not to be compared. Each country is superior and inferior to the other in various areas, each have also different standards in them.
I agree however, some things here and there may be perceived as a complete scandal from the western perspective.
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Seriously? Poland? So you want to saddle up with Poland? What is going on with the world? Would you have closer ties with Russia too?

Just out of curiosity - have you ever actually visited Europe? Do you know anything about it?
What do you have against the Poles?
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What do you have against the Poles?
Nothing per se. But given our historically close ties to Germany and France I am trying to understand why there is such animosity against them by Brexiteers, yet warmth and friendliness to a country that is about as far removed from us culturally as you can get (Poland).
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Maybe I misunderstood this but the EU has problem because Polands elected government want more power over their country?
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The EU is going to collapse, isn't it?
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(Original post by ByEeek)
Nothing per se. But given our historically close ties to Germany and France I am trying to understand why there is such animosity against them by Brexiteers, yet warmth and friendliness to a country that is about as far removed from us culturally as you can get (Poland).
When you say "historically close ties" with Germany and France - you mean the two nations we have been at war with more than any other - France certainly we have had the most wars with come on - the 100 Years War for a start.- Germany the most destructive wars wit.

Poland on the other hand, has been a historic ally of Britain. Poles in huge numbers fought in the Air Force and as part of allied forces based in Britain. The Polish government was based in Britain during the War. The reason there are so many second generation Poles in the UK is from the soldiers and airmen that stayed on after the war ended and didn't want to go back to Commie-land.

We have a lot in common with the Poles, it's their time under Commie rule that removed them from us. The Germans, we have a lot in common with, except for the fact they tried to annihilate us twice. The French - we have almost nothing in common with.

The two countries who have worked against us during the period of EU rule - more than any other have been France and Germany - despite us saving one from the other within living memory.

I'm ready to predict that it's not impossible that Britain and the EU could well be on different sides of a shooting war (in the distant future) if the EU doesn't collapse.

As long ago as 1993, military futurist and writer Larry Bond predicted a war with the UK/US on different sides of a hot war with the EU.
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When you say "historically close ties" with Germany and France - you mean the two nations we have been at war with more than any other - France certainly we have had the most wars with come on - the 100 Years War for a start.- Germany the most destructive wars wit.
Yes historic. We imported our Royal family from Germany and love their cars and beer. Our Trafalgar Square Christmas tree is donated by Germany every year. France is one of the most popular holiday destinations after Spain and we have a history of undertaking hugely successful engineering projects with France, the Channel tunnel and Concode to name two.

What has Poland ever done for us, other than fix my central heating on a Bank Holiday weekend?
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Ah, further evidence of how cancerous the EU is.
Indeed, how dare they stand up for an independent judiciary. The crooks.
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Funny how this story completely ignores the actions of the Polish government who have completely and entirely undermined the independence of their judiciary.
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The beginning of the end of the EU?
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