Is the UK taking in enough Syrian refugees?
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Original post by So-Sarah
People all around the world are at risk of death, yet we don't let them in.
Your ignorance of international law is deeply troubling.
Secondly, these refugees to Germany were not vetted, chances are there were links amongst them to the attacks we had in UK.
1] Care to prove that?
2] Thats a spurious lie and you know it.
And of course, there is no real war in Syria right now, so most are just economic migrants.
Aside from being disgustingly wrong there i'm inclined to ask if you even know where Syria is on a map?
And why don't they fight Assad/Isis instead of running away...
Pray tell how shop keepers etc. would fight soldiers with no training or weaponry? Is this just a slightly less offensive way of saying you want them all to die?
We tried taking more refugees - remember? About 18 months ago there was this huge moral panic about 7-year old Syrian girls being abused or freezing to death in Calais. Cameron said no - we'll do our own thing and take them directly from Syria if they're genuinely in need. All the care bears in this country just lost it and said how heartless the evil Tories were - and how we *must* take these unaccompanied children right now. It was our humanitarian duty.......
And so we did, and all we got were buses full of grown men from wherever. Not Syria.
Wolf has been cried once too often. People can't trust these concepts any more.
And so we did, and all we got were buses full of grown men from wherever. Not Syria.
Wolf has been cried once too often. People can't trust these concepts any more.
We're already amidst a housing crisis as it is. All taking in refugees is going to accomplish is an increase in homelessness.
We've got enough refugees as we can. Plus most of them don't even integrate into the society nor do they support their society.
Original post by So-Sarah
People all around the world are at risk of death, yet we don't let them in.
Secondly, these refugees to Germany were not vetted, chances are there were links amongst them to the attacks we had in UK.
And of course, there is no real war in Syria right now, so most are just economic migrants.
And why don't they fight Assad/Isis instead of running away...
Secondly, these refugees to Germany were not vetted, chances are there were links amongst them to the attacks we had in UK.
And of course, there is no real war in Syria right now, so most are just economic migrants.
And why don't they fight Assad/Isis instead of running away...
What risk of death? Please be specific
Honey, if there were "links" pretty sure the UK government would have found out already
No real war? I'm sorry but what does "real" war look like to you?
Fight instead of running away? Yeah if you had a "real" war in your area, you'd fight right, or hop on the first flight out of here?
How naive and ignorant are you??
Original post by ProgrammerC
Unfortunately, you're absolutely wrong. I currently live in the Turkey, and as a Turkish citizen all I want to say to you is: DON'T TAKE THEM IN! They're breeding like rabbits and aren't contributing our society! I heard many Turkish girls had been raped by those refugees and many people became unemployment because of CHEAP labour force. Have you ever thought why they escaped from Syria unlike, some of them preferred to stay in Demascus (capital city of Syria) ? Because they don't like secular Esad's opinions. They're generaly supporting radicalised, jihadist Islamic ideas just check armed rebellion's ideas.
Besides all of those factors, they're not proper for your society. Most of them won't even respect your democratic values and traditions. After their numbers are increased, they'll want the Sharia courts. Islam is a cancer, if you want to live with them you can prefer to live in the Middle East but please don't let it happen to spreading those viruses in the Britain or any other European country.
To solve that problem: my personal idea is, temporarily (until war is over) just building a safe zone in the Middle East (or any other permitting land) with utilities such as camps, foods, refrigerators.. etc. and providing aids to that zone from those developed countries or more logically; creating job oppurtunites such as labour force in that safe zone might be good solution for them.
Besides all of those factors, they're not proper for your society. Most of them won't even respect your democratic values and traditions. After their numbers are increased, they'll want the Sharia courts. Islam is a cancer, if you want to live with them you can prefer to live in the Middle East but please don't let it happen to spreading those viruses in the Britain or any other European country.
To solve that problem: my personal idea is, temporarily (until war is over) just building a safe zone in the Middle East (or any other permitting land) with utilities such as camps, foods, refrigerators.. etc. and providing aids to that zone from those developed countries or more logically; creating job oppurtunites such as labour force in that safe zone might be good solution for them.
Come off it b! Turkey is normally a Muslim majority. Turkey is one of the worst allies, poor To contribute even for themselves. Most terrorists are actually aided by your country or formally living there. It's happening under your Turkish government noses, then want to blame them?
Original post by Ladbants
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/syrian-refugees-uk-immigrants-resettlement-scheme-2020-numbers-a8044696.html
Turkey has taken in over 3 million. Lebanon has taken in 1 million. Germany has taken in 450000. Canada has resettled 40000. Even Singapore has taken in more than the UK.
The UK has taken in 8000.
With the major world powers doing far more than the UK, are we not taking in our fair share of the refugees? Germany and a lot of the mainland European countries as well as Canada and others have taken in far more than the UK when adjusting for their population sizes. Even countries that are poorer than the UK have taken in more.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/syrian-refugees-uk-immigrants-resettlement-scheme-2020-numbers-a8044696.html
Turkey has taken in over 3 million. Lebanon has taken in 1 million. Germany has taken in 450000. Canada has resettled 40000. Even Singapore has taken in more than the UK.
The UK has taken in 8000.
With the major world powers doing far more than the UK, are we not taking in our fair share of the refugees? Germany and a lot of the mainland European countries as well as Canada and others have taken in far more than the UK when adjusting for their population sizes. Even countries that are poorer than the UK have taken in more.
You talk about Germany and Mainland Europe, but we are leaving Europe. We don’t have to take any more refugees. That’s why British people want to leave Europe because they are fed up of refugees and been controlled by Europe. We do not have to copy Germany or and other EU country any longer.
Brexit means controlling our own borders and we want far less if any refugees coming here.
When we are out of Europe we can finally shut our doors.
Original post by RickHendricks
We've got enough refugees as we can. Plus most of them don't even integrate into the society nor do they support their society.
Care to provide some proof for that rather spurious claim?
Original post by It's****ingWOODY
We're already amidst a housing crisis as it is. All taking in refugees is going to accomplish is an increase in homelessness.
Thats a bit of a stretch?
I don't think we should. It's best to help resettle them into a country with a similar culture where they'd be more comfortable. The UK should pay towards resettlement in Lebanon or Turkey or other Middle Eastern countries to ease the burden, and the refugees should be sent back to Syria once the war ends and the international community should come together to pay towards rebuilding homes, hospitals and schools
You can blame Labour (and the Tories to some extent, but mostly Labour post 1997) for the public's non-appetite to take in large amounts of Syrian refugees. If we had enjoyed sensible immigration in the last two decades, then I imagine the public would be much more open now to taking in more Syrian refugees.
Original post by Napp
Thats a bit of a stretch?
Not really. The UK has a housing crisis, with too many people chasing too few homes. It can only get worse by increasing the population, that's just logic.
Original post by Napp
Care to provide some proof for that rather spurious claim?
Don't need proof for the second bit. Much of them don't integrate. Remember a while ago there was a thread a while back about OP who wants his brother to cope with haram and he was on about not talking to girls and not socialising with anyone else because it's haram? That's what I meant.
Much of the people who come into this country as refugees aren't even refugees . Here's a proof from the INdependent itself:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-child-asylum-seekers-adult-age-test-migrants-refugee-crisis-a7464081.html
Original post by It's****ingWOODY
Not really. The UK has a housing crisis, with too many people chasing too few homes. It can only get worse by increasing the population, that's just logic.
Aside from its overly simplistic calling this a nationwide housing crisis when the difference in severity between say London and somewhere up north, where housing is immeasurably more prevalent, it also disregards the fact that this is in large part due to housing regulations - such as people owning dozens of houses to rent.
I digress though, at any rate are you really postulating that we shouldnt give shelter to people who are being carpet bombed because it might lessen the housing stock in this country a tad?
Original post by RickHendricks
Don't need proof for the second bit. Much of them don't integrate. Remember a while ago there was a thread a while back about OP who wants his brother to cope with haram and he was on about not talking to girls and not socialising with anyone else because it's haram? That's what I meant.
Much of the people who come into this country as refugees aren't even refugees . Here's a proof from the INdependent itself:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-child-asylum-seekers-adult-age-test-migrants-refugee-crisis-a7464081.html
Much of the people who come into this country as refugees aren't even refugees . Here's a proof from the INdependent itself:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-child-asylum-seekers-adult-age-test-migrants-refugee-crisis-a7464081.html
Er i think you'll find you do. If you make a spurious accusation such as that be prepared to back it up, unless you'd rather admit that was a lie?
1 thread on TSR is indicative of nothing.
Er aside from that article being about Denmark, not the UK, it says absolutely nothing about whether they are refugees or not it merely makes allegation about peoples ages. Did you even read that before sending it?
Even the UN have admitted that 70% of these Syrian refugees are
a) Not Syrian but from many countries predominantly African and
b) not refugees at all but illegal economic migrants.
It was comical a while ago watching a BBC report on these poor refugees landing in an Italian port on an NGO boat that picked them up just off the coast of Lybia. Not a woman or child amongst them just 80 or so men of fighting age and all as black as they come and blatently African. Cue the BBC reporter describing them as Syrian.🤗 It was like he assumed we couldn't see what was going on behind him on the Dockside.
a) Not Syrian but from many countries predominantly African and
b) not refugees at all but illegal economic migrants.
It was comical a while ago watching a BBC report on these poor refugees landing in an Italian port on an NGO boat that picked them up just off the coast of Lybia. Not a woman or child amongst them just 80 or so men of fighting age and all as black as they come and blatently African. Cue the BBC reporter describing them as Syrian.🤗 It was like he assumed we couldn't see what was going on behind him on the Dockside.
Original post by Napp
Your ignorance of international law is deeply troubling.
1] Care to prove that?
2] Thats a spurious lie and you know it.
Aside from being disgustingly wrong there i'm inclined to ask if you even know where Syria is on a map?
Pray tell how shop keepers etc. would fight soldiers with no training or weaponry? Is this just a slightly less offensive way of saying you want them all to die?
1] Care to prove that?
2] Thats a spurious lie and you know it.
Aside from being disgustingly wrong there i'm inclined to ask if you even know where Syria is on a map?
Pray tell how shop keepers etc. would fight soldiers with no training or weaponry? Is this just a slightly less offensive way of saying you want them all to die?
The EU was responsible for supporting ISIS because the EU wanted rid of President Assad.
Refugees to Germany were not vetted by order of the EU and the EU wants Britain to take millions more of un-vetted migrants. That’s why we need to get out of the EU as soon as possible then shut and lock our borders. Those migrants who came here illegally from Europe can all be sent back to mainland EUrope. Brexit is supposed to mean Brexit so what the hell are we still doing in the EU almost 2 years after we all voted to leave??
Original post by Ambitious1999
The EU was responsible for supporting ISIS because the EU wanted rid of President Assad.
Refugees to Germany were not vetted by order of the EU and the EU wants Britain to take millions more of un-vetted migrants. That’s why we need to get out of the EU as soon as possible then shut and lock our borders. Those migrants who came here illegally from Europe can all be sent back to mainland EUrope. Brexit is supposed to mean Brexit so what the hell are we still doing in the EU almost 2 years after we all voted to leave??
Refugees to Germany were not vetted by order of the EU and the EU wants Britain to take millions more of un-vetted migrants. That’s why we need to get out of the EU as soon as possible then shut and lock our borders. Those migrants who came here illegally from Europe can all be sent back to mainland EUrope. Brexit is supposed to mean Brexit so what the hell are we still doing in the EU almost 2 years after we all voted to leave??
Aside from that being an outrageous lie you do know it was Assad who actually helped indirectly create ISIL?
So?
Pray tell how you would intend to 'vet' people coming from war zones? What databases could you possibly check them against?
Thats quite a stretch blaming the EU for migrants. You are aware migrants existed some time before the EU ever came into being right?
How do i put this? **** Brexit.
We all? You do know more people didnt vote for Brexit than did?
Original post by Ladbants
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/syrian-refugees-uk-immigrants-resettlement-scheme-2020-numbers-a8044696.html
Turkey has taken in over 3 million. Lebanon has taken in 1 million. Germany has taken in 450000. Canada has resettled 40000. Even Singapore has taken in more than the UK.
The UK has taken in 8000.
With the major world powers doing far more than the UK, are we not taking in our fair share of the refugees? Germany and a lot of the mainland European countries as well as Canada and others have taken in far more than the UK when adjusting for their population sizes. Even countries that are poorer than the UK have taken in more.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/syrian-refugees-uk-immigrants-resettlement-scheme-2020-numbers-a8044696.html
Turkey has taken in over 3 million. Lebanon has taken in 1 million. Germany has taken in 450000. Canada has resettled 40000. Even Singapore has taken in more than the UK.
The UK has taken in 8000.
With the major world powers doing far more than the UK, are we not taking in our fair share of the refugees? Germany and a lot of the mainland European countries as well as Canada and others have taken in far more than the UK when adjusting for their population sizes. Even countries that are poorer than the UK have taken in more.
The word used to be invader. Then it was changed by anti-whites to immigrant. Then it was changed by anti-whites to migrants. People are no longer buying the 'diversity is strength' slogan, so it was changed again to 'refugees.' Around this time the international law that only the nearest safe country is obliged to take refugees was quietly removed. Why aren't you telling Uganda to take their 'fair share of refugees?'
Uganda never accepts immigrants. They are 99% Black.
Original post by Ladbants
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/syrian-refugees-uk-immigrants-resettlement-scheme-2020-numbers-a8044696.html
Turkey has taken in over 3 million. Lebanon has taken in 1 million. Germany has taken in 450000. Canada has resettled 40000. Even Singapore has taken in more than the UK.
The UK has taken in 8000.
With the major world powers doing far more than the UK, are we not taking in our fair share of the refugees? Germany and a lot of the mainland European countries as well as Canada and others have taken in far more than the UK when adjusting for their population sizes. Even countries that are poorer than the UK have taken in more.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/syrian-refugees-uk-immigrants-resettlement-scheme-2020-numbers-a8044696.html
Turkey has taken in over 3 million. Lebanon has taken in 1 million. Germany has taken in 450000. Canada has resettled 40000. Even Singapore has taken in more than the UK.
The UK has taken in 8000.
With the major world powers doing far more than the UK, are we not taking in our fair share of the refugees? Germany and a lot of the mainland European countries as well as Canada and others have taken in far more than the UK when adjusting for their population sizes. Even countries that are poorer than the UK have taken in more.
Sure, let's house the refugees, you want us to take in so badly, in your hometown. Enjoy it!
Original post by Napp
Aside from its overly simplistic calling this a nationwide housing crisis when the difference in severity between say London and somewhere up north, where housing is immeasurably more prevalent, it also disregards the fact that this is in large part due to housing regulations - such as people owning dozens of houses to rent.
I digress though, at any rate are you really postulating that we shouldnt give shelter to people who are being carpet bombed because it might lessen the housing stock in this country a tad?
I digress though, at any rate are you really postulating that we shouldnt give shelter to people who are being carpet bombed because it might lessen the housing stock in this country a tad?
Differences in severity between cities doesn't really change the fact that there's a lack of housing everywhere you go, though. There are currently hundreds of thousands of homeless people in this country, to varying degrees in every city. The benefits system is under strain, as is the NHS. We've already taken in 8000 refugees as the OP stated. We can't help the world when doing so would drive this country further into financial crisis and endanger the welfare of a significant portion of our own citizens due to out current housing situation.
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