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Percentage of applicants awarded places at Oxford University?

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Willa
yes, it is a common misconception amongst the western society that oxford is the cream of the uk's higher education. This tends to have come out of it's past prestiguousness and being popularised in various films and books. In the east however, society has not been used to this higher education malarky, and so tend to award social credibility to the best academic performers. Hence Cambridge is considered Europe's best university by eastern society.

When it comes to Americans, they have their fair share of amazing educational establishments, and so their a main desire to leave their own country tends to be down to prestige and such. Oxford, being the older of the two, is considered to be more presitigous. However as is the case with so many things, it's quality not quantity, and so age is now become less important than what the universities have got to offer. Cambridge is fast establishing itself as THE university of academic excellence in Europe. It is the New Oxford....it has everything Oxford had 150 years ago......so move over Oxford, you've had your day.

Although in fairness....if you go to either cambridge or oxford, you're gonig to a damn good university.


A common misconception? lol I don't wanna take the place of your colleague, but Oxford IS the cream...SO is Cambridge!! There is too little to decide between them, unless you go down to very specific stuff, and then there's not that much...Why do you obsess over this so much?! :rolleyes: :tongue: :wink:

T

(hoping he's not come accross as confrontational etc. etc.)
It wierd, the Sunday Times University Guide put Cambridge above Oxford and by more than last year but in Oxford's entry is says that Oxford is probably as good as Cambridge. The main reason Cambridge always beats Oxford in the Sunday Times is because of a teaching assessment but I don't see how this is possible as surely Sunday Times journos don't have access to tutorials to make an assessment.
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~U~Teedy~U~
A common misconception? lol I don't wanna take the place of your colleague, but Oxford IS the cream...SO is Cambridge!! There is too little to decide between them, unless you go down to very specific stuff, and then there's not that much...Why do you obsess over this so much?! :rolleyes: :tongue: :wink:

T

(hoping he's not come accross as confrontational etc. etc.)


when i used the word "cream" I was referring to it's use to imply "the best of". There can only be one "best of". But if you read a post i made slightly later on, I admitted my bias view and that in reality there is nothing between the two. I am just bitter than American's rate oxford above cambridge for (in my opinion) no good reason these days.
Willa
when i used the word "cream" I was referring to it's use to imply "the best of". There can only be one "best of". But if you read a post i made slightly later on, I admitted my bias view and that in reality there is nothing between the two. I am just bitter than American's rate oxford above cambridge for (in my opinion) no good reason these days.



OK Fair enough :tongue:

T
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house badger
The Chch freshers guide is here, http://users.ox.ac.uk/~chri1588/chchweb/freshers/index.html , my room mate made it. Are you referring to the two lines on the last page of the glossary which explains what a tab is?


I have absolutely no idea, I'm afraid. We were just having a friendly sort of banter (you know the tedious type whenever you meet someone from the other place) and she said that in her freshers' guide there was a page dedicated to slagging us off or something like that. I've never seen it, so I don't know at all what she's referring to :tongue:
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deianra
Oi, it's Economics and Management! :mad: Get the name right! And it's nearly 6 applicants per place actually...

Last year it was higher than that, they pooled open applications to colleges with 7, and they get sent to ones with the lowest :eek:
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Willa
when i used the word "cream" I was referring to it's use to imply "the best of". There can only be one "best of". But if you read a post i made slightly later on, I admitted my bias view and that in reality there is nothing between the two. I am just bitter than American's rate oxford above cambridge for (in my opinion) no good reason these days.

I agree. It all depends on subjects. If I was a scientist, I'd want to go to Cambridge. If I was an arts or social science student, I'd want to go to Oxford.

As for difficulty to get in to compared to US unis, for a UK student it's about equal IMHO, however remember many UK students enter in the second year, as we have a year more high school than the US. A US student coming to Oxbridge usually needs to do a lot of reading up to make up for having one less year, and for the less specialisation, since they take a breadth of subjects right up to leaving high school, as opposed to out relative specialisation of A levels.
Drogue
Last year it was higher than that, they pooled open applications to colleges with 7, and they get sent to ones with the lowest :eek:

Not necessarily. The colleges with the lowest direct applications will simply have the majority of the open applicants, but that doesn't mean colleges with 7+ won't have any. IIRC, only three colleges have a direct applications ratio of over 8, but St Anne's for example (direct ratio of barely 3) gets bumped up to over 7 each year. Thus, if the colleges with low direct ratios already receive enough allocations of open applicants to above 7 or 8, it makes sense for the popular colleges with direct applicants to 7/place to receive some too.

E&M's just way too popular for it's own good. :tongue:
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Exactly, but applicants per place for the course would include open applicants, not just those that apply to a particular college. So if, including open applications, the lowest college ends up with 7 per place, then the average for that subject must be over 7. I've seen colleges with 14 direct applicants per place, and that's only the ones they were interviewing. Thus I'd estimate the average to be nearer 7, but somewhere between 7 and 14.
Drogue
Exactly, but applicants per place for the course would include open applicants, not just those that apply to a particular college. So if, including open applications, the lowest college ends up with 7 per place, then the average for that subject must be over 7. I've seen colleges with 14 direct applicants per place, and that's only the ones they were interviewing. Thus I'd estimate the average to be nearer 7, but somewhere between 7 and 14.


And yet the prospectus figure has stayed as 17% acceptance for a three-year average? Methinks they've been fiddling it...
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Doesn't that say it's only people who apply directly, and that it's a moving average. It's shot up in the last 2-3 years, according to the tutors I spoke to. Also, aren't there figures based on a few years ago anyway?
deianra
And yet the prospectus figure has stayed as 17% acceptance for a three-year average? Methinks they've been fiddling it...

Application numbers have really shot up in the last couple of year; as a three year avaerage I would say 1/6 is fairly accurate, though last year it probable stood at 1/8, maybe higher. E+M has snowballed in the last couple of years.
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BazTheMoney
Application numbers have really shot up in the last couple of year; as a three year avaerage I would say 1/6 is fairly accurate, though last year it probable stood at 1/8, maybe higher. E+M has snowballed in the last couple of years.

Another thing that makes me *so* glad I'm on this side of the interviews :biggrin:
BazTheMoney
Application numbers have really shot up in the last couple of year; as a three year avaerage I would say 1/6 is fairly accurate, though last year it probable stood at 1/8, maybe higher. E+M has snowballed in the last couple of years.

*shakes head* Crazily low acceptance rate, depressing statistics, so I've stopped bothering about them. I made up my mind to apply long ago so I'm just going to go for it. That's all anyone can do, really.

Good night all :smile:
Helenia
I have absolutely no idea, I'm afraid. We were just having a friendly sort of banter (you know the tedious type whenever you meet someone from the other place) and she said that in her freshers' guide there was a page dedicated to slagging us off or something like that. I've never seen it, so I don't know at all what she's referring to :tongue:


Eee! Didn't mean to sound arsey but realise I did. Personally I think we should slag each other off more, it's fun. Alternatively we could form an *!*ultimate Oxbridge tag team*!* and slag Durham off lots. That would also be fun.

(Now watch my rep plummet for making fun of Durham)
house badger
(Now watch my rep plummet for making fun of Durham)


No it's LSE you have to worry about :tongue:
Invisible
Physics is the best. Oxford is best for Physics, so Oxford is the best.
elpaw chose Oxford, so Oxford must be the best.
Mathematics is best at Cambridge and fishpaste chose Cambridge, so Cambridge is also very good.


I chose Oxford for law, so Oxford must be the best no? :tongue:
deianra
*shakes head* Crazily low acceptance rate, depressing statistics, so I've stopped bothering about them. I made up my mind to apply long ago so I'm just going to go for it. That's all anyone can do, really.

Good night all :smile:

Never let the figures put you off, everyone's in the same boat afterall. :smile:
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Invisible
Physics is the best. Oxford is best for Physics, so Oxford is the best.
elpaw chose Oxford, so Oxford must be the best.
Mathematics is best at Cambridge and fishpaste chose Cambridge, so Cambridge is also very good.


then why have so many of the most important physicists of the past 100 years studied at cambridge rather than oxford?

cambridge is better for physics (even the league tables say so).

My general view (perhaps slightly bias view, but even before I got into cambridge or even considered applying, this was my belief) is that Cambridge is better for Science and Maths, but oxford is better for Certain Arts (and business related subjects)
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Willa
My general view (perhaps slightly bias view, but even before I got into cambridge or even considered applying, this was my belief) is that Cambridge is better for Science and Maths, but oxford is better for Certain Arts (and business related subjects)

I would agree :smile: This was my view before I applied, although at the time, with Ed (my brother) being at Cambridge, and me wanting to apply there, I was a little Cambridge-biased. But IMHO it still stands, as a generalisation, that way. Although some arts are better at Cambridge, especially the smaller faculties, whereas the Tripos system means if you want to specialise in sciences, you *have* to go to Oxford. Cambridge Physics may be better, but you have to wait a year while doing other sciences before you can choose it. Plus the ability to do Physics and Philosophy together is pretty impressive, or indeed Maths and Philosophy.