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Should the liberal government trust statistics and follow them?
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Nobody should trust Statistics. They are far too easily skewed and misinterpreted.
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Nobody should trust Statistics. They are far too easily skewed and misinterpreted.
Why do you think that, though?
I mean I believe the same but surely statistics help

Foucault would've said the same thing
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They serve a purpose but then again as the other user said theyre liable to misrepresentation and misinterpretation.
As they say, you can prove anything you like with statistics :rolleyes:
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Or alternatively should statiscians trust the liberal government?
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Lmao why are people saying statistics are misrepresentative??? It’s one of best sources of representation because it’s done on a wide scale. The biggest limitation however is that it doesn’t answer WHY a certain thing is the case.
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any case studies on maybe a census in the management of population?

and good articles??
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There is nothing wrong with statistics. The problem is they way they are interpreted and used. So you have one person saying the country is going to put because glass is half empty whilst the other is overly optimistic because the glass is half full. And when one of the glasses of a population of 60 million becomes full whilst everyone else has an empty glass, it is reported that half empty glasses of water increased by 100%.
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There is nothing wrong with statistics. The problem is they way they are interpreted and used. So you have one person saying the country is going to put because glass is half empty whilst the other is overly optimistic because the glass is half full. And when one of the glasses of a population of 60 million becomes full whilst everyone else has an empty glass, it is reported that half empty glasses of water increased by 100%.
Do you have any good sources on this, or articles on statistics and government? (Mainly liberal)
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(Original post by GeorgeAndLennie)
Do you have any good sources on this, or articles on statistics and government? (Mainly liberal)
Not read it, but this is the classic text on the issue.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Lie-Sta.../dp/0140136290

Also, news articles, politicians, scientists and journalists are regularly unpicked and pulled to pieces in More or Less on Radio 4

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02n...odes/downloads

And Tim Harford who presents this programme is the Undercover Economist at the FT

http://timharford.com/articles/undercovereconomist/
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Not read it, but this is the classic text on the issue.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/How-Lie-Sta.../dp/0140136290
Great ill try to find a pdf
just struggling to find good info on how it can affect decisions etc or any small case studies that refer back to statistics and the liberal government
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(Original post by GeorgeAndLennie)
Great ill try to find a pdf
just struggling to find good info on how it can affect decisions etc or any small case studies that refer back to statistics and the liberal government
It has nothing to do with liberal governments. Every government under the sun has used statistics to bolster their argument. In fact there are some statistics that were actually hearsay and never actually produced.

Here is a great piece about the election campaign of 2015. Labour and the Tories were equally terrible in their use of statistics.

https://www.ft.com/content/2e43b3e8-...8-3c15a1aa2e62
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(Original post by ByEeek)
It has nothing to do with liberal governments. Every government under the sun has used statistics to bolster their argument. In fact there are some statistics that were actually hearsay and never actually produced.

Here is a great piece about the election campaign of 2015. Labour and the Tories were equally terrible in their use of statistics.

https://www.ft.com/content/2e43b3e8-...8-3c15a1aa2e62
true but im mainly looking at liberal governments and how it affects their decisions (mainly)
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(Original post by GeorgeAndLennie)
true but im mainly looking at liberal governments and how it affects their decisions (mainly)
How do you define liberal governments?
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How do you define liberal governments?
By foucault terminology, free, helps the public but with freedom essentiallly
Liberals typically believe that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others, but they also recognise that government itself can pose a threat to liberty.
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