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Depression (major depressive disorder) is a mutual and somber medical illness that damagingly affects how you feel, the way you meditate and how you act. Luckily, it is also treatable. Depression reasons feelings of sadness and/or a loss of interest in actions once enjoyed. It can lead to a variety of expressive and somatic problems and can decrease a person’s ability to function at work and at home.
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Depression (major depressive disorder) is a mutual and somber medical illness that damagingly affects how you feel, the way you meditate and how you act. Luckily, it is also treatable. Depression reasons feelings of sadness and/or a loss of interest in actions once enjoyed. It can lead to a variety of expressive and somatic problems and can decrease a person’s ability to function at work and at home.
I don't have depression and don't understand why that's a condition..
Surely if it can be controlled by just changing your mindset, its not a condition..
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I don't have depression and don't understand why that's a condition..
Surely if it can be controlled by just changing your mindset, its not a condition..
That's literally the whole point of depression. It's not having that usual level of control over your mental state. Your body gets stuck in a state of sadness or other negatives emotions when you should be able to just perk up or change your mind set.

It's difficult to understand when you've not experienced it because it's not just an emotion- it's a full blown change to how your mind works.
Just trust me when I say it's different. I have had depression as a condition which took years to recover from and, after recovery, have had the feelings from depression, but where I can actually just think myself out of it or have a nap and be fine after. Even now I find it difficult to sympathise with my own depression cos my mind just doesn't work that way any more and can process things more normally/ healthily.
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That's literally the whole point of depression. It's not having that usual level of control over your mental state. Your body gets stuck in a state of sadness or other negatives emotions when you should be able to just perk up or change your mind set.

It's difficult to understand when you've not experienced it because it's not just an emotion- it's a full blown change to how your mind works.
Just trust me when I say it's different. I have had depression as a condition which took years to recover from and, after recovery, have had the feelings from depression, but where I can actually just think myself out of it or have a nap and be fine after. Even now I find it difficult to sympathise with my own depression cos my mind just doesn't work that way any more and can process things more normally/ healthily.
Yeah..
Depression is basically not knowing how to deal with negative emotions.
Since when is not knowing a condition..
I don't how to drive, can I be cured?

I digress. I have known some people in real life who are very depressed. I do have sympathy for them and try my best to help them..
But quite often, they either refuse to be helped and shut themselves down or agreeing with everything I said but return to their depressive behaviour the day after.

My point is that it seems most people who are depressed do not think that depression is something that they are doing to themselves, but rather something beyond their control. Depressed people do not want to (know how to) take control and change for the better. That is why they are depressed in the first place...

I'm no expert so I don't know if I'm right or not. Although do let me know what you think.
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Yeah..
Depression is basically not knowing how to deal with negative emotions.
Since when is not knowing a condition..
I don't how to drive, can I be cured?

I digress. I have known some people in real life who are very depressed. I do have sympathy for them and try my best to help them..
But quite often, they either refuse to be helped and shut themselves down or agreeing with everything I said but return to their depressive behaviour the day after.

My point is that it seems most people who are depressed do not think that depression is something that they are doing to themselves, but rather something beyond their control. Depressed people do not want to (know how to) take control and change for the better. That is why they are depressed in the first place...

I'm no expert so I don't know if I'm right or not. Although do let me know what you think.
I can see how it could be easy to think that, but it's not quite true.
It's not that they aren't willing to change- they can't. Depression isn't something you get into through bad though processes- it changes your thought processes.
People with depression have their depression lie to them and strip any of their will. I tells them they are worthless, that they don't deserve help, that they aren't strong enough to change any thing and this is their life now.
They don't want to think or feel these things and will often struggle very hard trying to dismiss these thoughts until they are eventually worn down.

Therapy can be an effective treatment for depression, but that's not just "think normal. You're fixed". It's a process that explores triggering events, resolves conflicts and helps to gradually challenge and alter the negative thought patterns depression breeds.

People with depression can seem to ignore help and advice because they do not have the mental energy to do it, it is not something they can properly understand to challenge or it's frankly just not helpful advice for them.

One of the main combos of advice for depression is think positive and exercise. I was taking that advice on and feeling like my issue was that I was a lazy pessimist, when actually I was doing regular training for a boating expedition (exercise) and had previously been optimistic but had my mind feeling me constant negativities.
That advice to me was totally useless, even though it can be helpful for some people or at some stages in the fight against depression.
If I was given that advice I would seem to be ignoring it, but in reality I was trying my best to follow it or beating myself up for not being able to.

It isn't not knowing, it's not being able to. It's an illness that alters your mind and pits you against yourself and forces you to isolate and destroy yourself. It masks itself as ignorance or an unwillingness to change, but it is far more deep rooted and manipulative than that.
Because it masks itself like that it can be any easy thing for people to believe, but it's not true.
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Yeah..
Depression is basically not knowing how to deal with negative emotions.
Since when is not knowing a condition..
I don't how to drive, can I be cured?

I digress. I have known some people in real life who are very depressed. I do have sympathy for them and try my best to help them..
But quite often, they either refuse to be helped and shut themselves down or agreeing with everything I said but return to their depressive behaviour the day after.

My point is that it seems most people who are depressed do not think that depression is something that they are doing to themselves, but rather something beyond their control. Depressed people do not want to (know how to) take control and change for the better. That is why they are depressed in the first place...

I'm no expert so I don't know if I'm right or not. Although do let me know what you think.
You're wrong. Do you think the medical community call this an illness just for fun? Think of the connotations the word illness throws up for in general. It's very tempting to wish depression and associated illnesses on people as ignorant, so that they could see for themselves how basically stupid they are (I'm actually surprised they get through each day ppersonally), but then I wouldn't wish this on anyone. To cap it off people saying you should just get over it is occasinally what leads to people taking their own lives. It's sick.
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You're wrong. Do you think the medical community call this an illness just for fun? Think of the connotations the word illness throws up for in general. It's very tempting to wish depression and associated illnesses on people as ignorant, so that they could see for themselves how basically stupid they are (I'm actually surprised they get through each day ppersonally), but then I wouldn't wish this on anyone. To cap it off people saying you should just get over it is occasinally what leads to people taking their own lives. It's sick.
First of all ignorance is not a bad thing at all, for that there is always a simple fix.. no one is perfect and claims to know everything.

I'm not saying that you should just get over it, I think it is important to learn how to deal with negative emotions. By deal I don't mean just ignore it, it's more like turning those emotions into motivation that sort of thing.

If it is not purely mental issues like you say, surely there are physical factors involved, hyper-activities in some region of your brain perhaps?
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Find something to keep yourself busy. Never be empty handed. That’s what keeps me going
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I can see how it could be easy to think that, but it's not quite true.
It's not that they aren't willing to change- they can't. Depression isn't something you get into through bad though processes- it changes your thought processes.
People with depression have their depression lie to them and strip any of their will. I tells them they are worthless, that they don't deserve help, that they aren't strong enough to change any thing and this is their life now.
They don't want to think or feel these things and will often struggle very hard trying to dismiss these thoughts until they are eventually worn down.

Therapy can be an effective treatment for depression, but that's not just "think normal. You're fixed". It's a process that explores triggering events, resolves conflicts and helps to gradually challenge and alter the negative thought patterns depression breeds.

People with depression can seem to ignore help and advice because they do not have the mental energy to do it, it is not something they can properly understand to challenge or it's frankly just not helpful advice for them.

One of the main combos of advice for depression is think positive and exercise. I was taking that advice on and feeling like my issue was that I was a lazy pessimist, when actually I was doing regular training for a boating expedition (exercise) and had previously been optimistic but had my mind feeling me constant negativities.
That advice to me was totally useless, even though it can be helpful for some people or at some stages in the fight against depression.
If I was given that advice I would seem to be ignoring it, but in reality I was trying my best to follow it or beating myself up for not being able to.

It isn't not knowing, it's not being able to. It's an illness that alters your mind and pits you against yourself and forces you to isolate and destroy yourself. It masks itself as ignorance or an unwillingness to change, but it is far more deep rooted and manipulative than that.
Because it masks itself like that it can be any easy thing for people to believe, but it's not true.
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You're wrong. Do you think the medical community call this an illness just for fun? Think of the connotations the word illness throws up for in general. It's very tempting to wish depression and associated illnesses on people as ignorant, so that they could see for themselves how basically stupid they are (I'm actually surprised they get through each day ppersonally), but then I wouldn't wish this on anyone. To cap it off people saying you should just get over it is occasinally what leads to people taking their own lives. It's sick.
I mean I have read studies on how depression physically changes your brain (more bruises in the brain or something like that), but is that the cause?

Would you say depression is something you always have in your head and just worsen overtime, I would think so..
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I mean I have read studies on how depression physically changes your brain (more bruises in the brain or something like that), but is that the cause?

Would you say depression is something you always have in your head and just worsen overtime, I would think so..
Depression is still being studied and right now it's hard to say what is a cause and what is an effect.

Kinda. It's formed of normal things, but to crazy proportions. It's a normal thing to feel down sometimes, but depression takes that a lot further. It's normal to feel worn out at times, but depression takes that further.
Where a cause isn't really known though it's hard to say if it's something that is always there to some level. I wouldn't think it's quite that it's always there, but more that it's something that manipulates things that are. If that makes sense.
Depression does tend to get worse and more deep rooted over time, but it's not something that will happen to everybody. So not just time, something else is there to trigger it in some way, but yeah that's a part of it.
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I don't have depression and don't understand why that's a condition..
Surely if it can be controlled by just changing your mindset, its not a condition..
You are awfully ignorant and really need to research mental illnesses so you can be properly empathetic!! Your opinion is disgraceful and creates stigma toward depressed people
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eat well

develop a routine

make a list of goals, a gratitude list,

by helping others

organise your life

write down what makes you sad, what makes you happy
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For me (sever clinical depression) medication is my lifeline. I take anti psychotics, anti depressants, beta blockers. I’ve had inpatient treatment a number of times to keep me safe and for intensive therapy.

And to blow everyone’s mind: I have no trigger. Perfectly happy childhood, happy stable family. And when I was 14 I just broke. No reason, no stressor. Makes talking therapy extremely frustrating as they all look for causes and triggers and I don’t have any. Yet my family has a history of mental illness: depression, psychosis. Mental illness isn’t always caused by external factors. My brain doesn’t work the way it should, which I manage with medication.

Depression isn’t sadness.
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I took my meds, went to counselling, saw my GP and mental health team often, ate enough, slept enough, got out the house more and drank plenty of water. I think a lot of these are things that will generally help most people with depression.
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exercise, good music, good diet, no more alcohol or drugs and long walks
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Stoicism is the answer to all of life's problems. I've struggled with borderline personality disorder, bipolar, binge eating disorder, severe depression. And the best coping method I've found is feeling nothing. For the first time in 6 years I feel incredible! I've spent the last year teaching myself about emotional strength, independence, emotional restraint, and ultimately, to not indulge in negative emotions. I've managed to develop a state of mental wellness which medication, therapy, and meditation couldn't give me. I feel a sense of inner peace which I never thought I could achieve. I would piss myself laughing at people who spoke of inner peace because I thought that was total ********. I didn't realise how easy it was to achieve through an emotional shutdown. Not that that's particularly healthy, but it's still healthier than anything else.
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For me (sever clinical depression) medication is my lifeline. I take anti psychotics, anti depressants, beta blockers. I’ve had inpatient treatment a number of times to keep me safe and for intensive therapy.

And to blow everyone’s mind: I have no trigger. Perfectly happy childhood, happy stable family. And when I was 14 I just broke. No reason, no stressor. Makes talking therapy extremely frustrating as they all look for causes and triggers and I don’t have any. Yet my family has a history of mental illness: depression, psychosis. Mental illness isn’t always caused by external factors. My brain doesn’t work the way it should, which I manage with medication.

Depression isn’t sadness.
Outside of the meds thing I relate closely to this account. There's a history of it in my family and I have been known to get 'episodes' that can last several months despite having a great childhood, upbringing etc.

When it descends, I don't feel sad, or have any particularly negative thought process or emotions. I have nothing at all, and that's the problem. It's more like an emptiness. There's no emotion, just a type of exhaustion. Eventually it lifts, so I'm lucky like that. I just crack on the best I can, like.
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If youre talking about genuine depression the only way to control it is by rebalancing chemicals in your brain, depending on how severe it is some people can do this naturally by looking after their mental health through practicing mindfulness, meditating, embracing nature, etc. but just as important is making lifestyle changes like excercise, socialising, eating healthy, etc. others will need medication to rebalance the chemicals, but thats what it all comes down to. You cant just snap out of it, you can fool yourself but thats only temporary and that kind of happiness will never last
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I take 2 antidepressants, which seem to help. Though I'm not sure I have classic depression, I mostly feel depressed as a result of other MH issues - when they're not going on I don't feel very depressed, just kind of run down. Nothing like the crushing emptiness I used to feel. :dontknow:
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Depression should be treated by combining medicines and psychotherapy. It's the most effective way of treatment. But the sad fact about depression is only one-third of the number of people suffering from depression actually seek professional treatment.
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