B1312 - Monarchy Abolition Referendum Bill 2018 (Second Reading) Watch

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B1312 - Monarchy Abolition Referendum Bill 2018 (Second Reading), Hon Connor27

Monarchy Abolition Referendum Bill 2018
A BILL TO Call a referendum on abolishing the monarchy.

BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:—

1- Referendum
(1) A referendum is to be held on whether the United Kingdom should abolish the monarchy.
(2) The question that is to appear on the ballot papers is— “Should the United Kingdom abolish the monarchy?”
(3) The poll options are to be— “Yes - abolish the monarchy”, “no - keep the monarchy”, and “Spoilt Ballot”

2- Citation and commencement
(1) This Act extends to the United Kingdom.
(2) The provisions in Section 1 of this Act come into force on Royal Assent
(3) the provisions in Appendix 1 of this act shall come into force in the event of a “yes” vote in the ensuing referendum.
(4) This Act may be referred to as the Mornarchy Abolition (Referendum) Act 2017

Appendix 1

1- Abolition

(1) In Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the people are sovereign.

(2) The head of state for the UK will not from the date of commencement of this Act be appointed by birth.

(3) From the date of commencement of this Act, the UK’s formal name shall become ‘The Republic of Great Britain and Northern Ireland’.

(4) The Crown Estate shall become the private property of the former royal family.

(5) Public funding for the Royal Family will end on the date of commencement of this Act.

2. Royal Palaces

(1) All occupied and unoccupied Royal Palaces shall become private holdings of the former royal family.

3. President

(1) From the date of commencement of this appendix, the reigning Monarch’s duties will be transferred to an elected president.

(2) The President is indirectly elected by the Parliament of the British Republic.

Notes
The home of modern democracy currently has a unelected head of state so we should give the people of the uk (and tsr) a say on whether they want to keep the monarchy.

People voted for a party who supported a referendum on this and some people complained there was no mandate to push for this but that exists now.

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=2833093


Changes for Second Reading

Changed section 2(1) and 2(3) in order to make the bill constitutional.

Amended appendix 1, removing some of the more controversial elements of V706, outlining the full future arrangement in the event of a “yes” vote in the referendum.
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I hope that this version of the bill is more amenable to the house, the formatting has been changed as has the future model for the royal family and the head of state position in the event of a “yes” vote.
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Although I welcome things that may draw more people into the house, I think we need to leave the monarchy debate alone for a while. We've gone through it enough.
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Although I welcome things that may draw more people into the house, I think we need to leave the monarchy debate alone for a while. We've gone through it enough.
We haven’t had the debate in 2 and a half years...
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We haven’t had the debate in 2 and a half years...
Define we
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Define we
We have not had this referendum for 2 and a half years.

Debating whether or not to hold a referendum is not “having this debate.”
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That doesn't define we...:rolleyes:
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I see the power of republicanism is strong with the proposer... no as before I think
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It's better, I'll give you that.
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No, all referenda so far have been mere annoyances with no game-changing implications.
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Nay. Refer to my comments in the first reading.
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We haven’t had the debate in 2 and a half years...
We had a referendum two terms ago I think. We also had a debate about the monarchy abolition under Petros as Speaker when he created those big debate question threads.
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We had a referendum two terms ago I think. We also had a debate about the monarchy abolition under Petros as Speaker when he created those big debate question threads.
We did not, the last referendum was the eu one over 2 years ago as it was before I joined.
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We had a referendum two terms ago I think. We also had a debate about the monarchy abolition under Petros as Speaker when he created those big debate question threads.
I was here two terms ago, there was no referendum on the monarchy, it hasn’t happened since the 21st Parliament.

The big debates are quite unlike a referendum campaign because they do not utilise the debate and current affairs subforum; which naturally attracts more activity to the MHOC because of its greater exposure.

Also the formal debates and campaign groups afforded by a referendum would be a lot more suitable for this debate than one of the big debate threads used by Petros and Birch (as good as they are, they are insufficient for a topic like the monarchy.)
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No.
I agree with the Right Honourable Members Sentiments, especially at a time of such instability with Brexit looming - another referendum on such a fundamental could ruin the United Kingdom yet further than we have just committed to doing so.
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Nay, the amendments while better are no way close to making me even consider this to be a legitimate topic that should be looked at right now.
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I was here two terms ago, there was no referendum on the monarchy, it hasn’t happened since the 21st Parliament.
There was no monarchy referendum in the 21st Parliament, that was an EU referendum. The last real lengthy debate was held in Parliament 19 when a majority government of the left abolished the monarchy using a bill.

The monarchy referendum was 3 or 4 terms before that, from what I remember coming up in discussions since then. Certainly long before I joined, and I've been here nearly 4 years.
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Needs a commencement clause but aye.
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