Do people who "want" to attend an RG uni actually know what the Russell Group is? Watch

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It's just that I notice people who get told to pick a Russell Group university have this fixed desire to attend one despite having no clue what it is.

Is it damaging to people's university choices? I feel as though it makes them very narrow minded in their decision and they think "no that's not an RG uni so it MUST be bad!!!11"

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Doesn't being in the RG mean that the university is on a certain level? I always thought RG uni's were the top unis
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(Original post by dutchstudent123)
Doesn't being in the RG mean that the university is on a certain level? I always thought RG uni's were the top unis
That proves the OPs point
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I mean an RG university is a university that is world-class and research-based which reflects its respected status. St.Andrews is a great university and is not in the RG. I don't think too many people do this, and if they did, i highly advise they look at the league tables for their specific subject to compare as employers will know where the best come from.
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That proves the OPs point
Please note that I'm foreign and thus that I have to rely on very shallow and limited information when it comes to British universities.

But if it's true then I don't think it hurts anyone's choices if they want to go to a top uni. It's only positive isn't it?
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Doesn't being in the RG mean that the university is on a certain level? I always thought RG uni's were the top unis
it means that, simply, they can get a large research grant from the gov compared to non Russell group unis, allowing them to look more attractive to applicants.

they also have other roles e.g. establish an academic board to advise the English exams watchdog Ofqual on the content of A-Levels
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"Russell group" when its used in that loose sense just means a top 30 uni or something along those lines. It's not set in stone or anything. Most people will find that the uni they like and see as good just so happens to be prestigious and in the russell group.

There also isnt too many good unis that arent in the russell group that are still prestigious apart from st andrews, bath and UEA and perhaps some others. Otherwise the Russell group is just a convenient term
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Loads of people still apply to Bath.
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kent, bath, city, st andrews are all great unis and they are not russel group.
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They are generally the better universities for said course, but of course if it is RG but ranked 30th for your desired subject you would choose a ranked 10th that isn't RG
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Surrey, Sussex and Loughborough are also great Universities that aren’t Russel group. It really just depends on the course, St Andrews is incredibly good for psychology and much better than most Russel groups for that course.
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I imagine many people are pushed into applying to RG unis by their teachers who (mistakenly) think it's some kind of British Ivy League.
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Surrey, Sussex and Loughborough are also great Universities that aren’t Russel group. It really just depends on the course, St Andrews is incredibly good for psychology and much better than most Russel groups for that course.
Yeah, exactly. The problem is, I see a lot of confused people assuming that a university isn't as good as an RG university simply because it's not an RG university. They're missing out on opportunities that may be better for them i.e. at the universities you've mentioned.
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Every university in the Russell Group, broadly speaking, is good. But not every good university is in the Russell Group.

Many countries with a strong higher education system have their own 'group' of 'good' universities, all for different things. E.g. the C9 League in China, U15 in Canada, Ivy League in the US, Group of Eight in Australia, etc.

The Russell Group is about research, the Ivy League is about sport. Does that mean that St Andrews has subpar research standards, or Stanford poor sports teams? No. You have to understand the context of each group, rather than saying that X university is excluded from Y group which means it must be worse.
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