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Should TV dramas reflect societal ills?
An episode of Eastenders has caused controversy after it showed a teenager being stabbed. Do you think it should have been aired?
The show, which was broadcast before the watershed, received nearly 200 complaints after a 13-year-old character, Jay Brown, was knifed in the leg by a gang.
A spokesperson for the BBC said: "This is part of a long running storyline that in no way glamorises the use of knives"
Last November the BBC received 663 complaints after an episode showed scenes of a gang carrying out an attack in the Queen Victoria pub.
Do you think this episode should have been broadcast before the watershed? Should TV dramas be tackling current issues in the news? Do you let your children watch TV soaps? Do you think TV dramas are becoming too violent?
Read the full story (on the BBC website)
The show, which was broadcast before the watershed, received nearly 200 complaints after a 13-year-old character, Jay Brown, was knifed in the leg by a gang.
A spokesperson for the BBC said: "This is part of a long running storyline that in no way glamorises the use of knives"
Last November the BBC received 663 complaints after an episode showed scenes of a gang carrying out an attack in the Queen Victoria pub.
Do you think this episode should have been broadcast before the watershed? Should TV dramas be tackling current issues in the news? Do you let your children watch TV soaps? Do you think TV dramas are becoming too violent?
Read the full story (on the BBC website)
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Gang crime (particularly in London) is a huge contemporary issue, so of course EastEnders should cover it. Some people just love sending complaints in.
in the past EastEnders has covered HIV issues, Marital Rape, Drug abuse..if people don't know what kind of show their tuning into now (after about 25years) then i hope Ofcom confiscates their TV and locks them in a cave quite frankly!
there's hundreds of channels to view, why these people see fit to continually complain I don't know.
in the past EastEnders has covered HIV issues, Marital Rape, Drug abuse..if people don't know what kind of show their tuning into now (after about 25years) then i hope Ofcom confiscates their TV and locks them in a cave quite frankly!
there's hundreds of channels to view, why these people see fit to continually complain I don't know.
Societal ills, such as knife crime, are inherently undesirable within a society. In all spheres of life we try to reduce or eradicate them. By showing the stabbing, East Enders raises awareness of the issue within circles who may otherwise be quite content to ignore it. Raising awareness is essential to tackle ills such as knife crime within society.
Image you have a country in which there is a severely oppressed minority. Most people don't care about this because they lead their daily lives without coming into contact with this minority. They then go home and watch soaps that do not include this minority, or simply portray them as living harmoniously within society. The problem never gets solved because there is a lack of awareness. Now imagine that soaps start showing the effects of oppressing a minority, be it people from that minority becoming involved in crime or themselves being victimised. This raises awareness and puts this particular ill on the public radar. The same can be applied to knife crime.
Therefore, to me at least, it seems pretty clear that not only should East Enders be allowed to air such scenes, but by airing such scenes they are actually beneficial to society, albeit in only a small way
Image you have a country in which there is a severely oppressed minority. Most people don't care about this because they lead their daily lives without coming into contact with this minority. They then go home and watch soaps that do not include this minority, or simply portray them as living harmoniously within society. The problem never gets solved because there is a lack of awareness. Now imagine that soaps start showing the effects of oppressing a minority, be it people from that minority becoming involved in crime or themselves being victimised. This raises awareness and puts this particular ill on the public radar. The same can be applied to knife crime.
Therefore, to me at least, it seems pretty clear that not only should East Enders be allowed to air such scenes, but by airing such scenes they are actually beneficial to society, albeit in only a small way
oh dear yet another thing that is "glamorising crime" and corrupting our children.
first it was films, then music then computer games and now its eastenders.
we cant live wrapped in cotton wool and deny the happenings of the outside world. its not as if the writers have the made the people carrying out the attack to be in anyway favourable for doing so.
if anything i would prefere social ills be shown more so as to raise awareness as to their existence. hiding in the sand will never go anyway towards tackling the problem. perhaps if the people complaining about the eastenders episode to the bbc were to spend their time instead complaining to goverment about knife laws and the places that sell offensive weapons they might actualy do something constructive. and then it couldnt be on eastenders anymore either
first it was films, then music then computer games and now its eastenders.
we cant live wrapped in cotton wool and deny the happenings of the outside world. its not as if the writers have the made the people carrying out the attack to be in anyway favourable for doing so.
if anything i would prefere social ills be shown more so as to raise awareness as to their existence. hiding in the sand will never go anyway towards tackling the problem. perhaps if the people complaining about the eastenders episode to the bbc were to spend their time instead complaining to goverment about knife laws and the places that sell offensive weapons they might actualy do something constructive. and then it couldnt be on eastenders anymore either
I actually saw that episode (I don't tend to watch Eastenders much), and my thoughts were that it didn't look realistic enough. I don't mean in terms of showing blood and stab wounds and whatnot - it was before the watershed, after all - but I didn't think they made it look half as terrifying as it really would be.
I think tv dramas are very representative of our society's ills.
Have Your Say
An episode of Eastenders has caused controversy after it showed a teenager being stabbed. Do you think it should have been aired?
The show, which was broadcast before the watershed, received nearly 200 complaints after a 13-year-old character, Jay Brown, was knifed in the leg by a gang.
A spokesperson for the BBC said: "This is part of a long running storyline that in no way glamorises the use of knives"
Last November the BBC received 663 complaints after an episode showed scenes of a gang carrying out an attack in the Queen Victoria pub.
Do you think this episode should have been broadcast before the watershed? Should TV dramas be tackling current issues in the news? Do you let your children watch TV soaps? Do you think TV dramas are becoming too violent?
Read the full story (on the BBC website)
The show, which was broadcast before the watershed, received nearly 200 complaints after a 13-year-old character, Jay Brown, was knifed in the leg by a gang.
A spokesperson for the BBC said: "This is part of a long running storyline that in no way glamorises the use of knives"
Last November the BBC received 663 complaints after an episode showed scenes of a gang carrying out an attack in the Queen Victoria pub.
Do you think this episode should have been broadcast before the watershed? Should TV dramas be tackling current issues in the news? Do you let your children watch TV soaps? Do you think TV dramas are becoming too violent?
Read the full story (on the BBC website)
If it didn't reflect what is really going on in the country at the moment then what the bloody hell are the writers meant to write about? How happy and perfect life is and have somewhere full of sunshine and rainbows?
Perhaps if people started taking a real stand against gang culture and knife crime instead of bitching to the BBC about Eastenders something might get done about it.
I don't think Eastenders should be going after these types of subjects. The people behind it are supposed to make an entertaining serial drama on the BBC not a bloody documentary on channel 4.
Still I do have a thing about people who complain about trivial **** on TV. Holly Willoughby's dress caused 200+ complaints at the weekend. Do these people really have nothing better to do than to write to Points of View or phone up Ofcom every day?
Still I do have a thing about people who complain about trivial **** on TV. Holly Willoughby's dress caused 200+ complaints at the weekend. Do these people really have nothing better to do than to write to Points of View or phone up Ofcom every day?
If it means kids getting stabbed on TV, I'm all for it.
fletchinator
I don't think Eastenders should be going after these types of subjects. The people behind it are supposed to make an entertaining serial drama on the BBC not a bloody documentary on channel 4.
Still I do have a thing about people who complain about trivial **** on TV. Holly Willoughby's dress caused 200+ complaints at the weekend. Do these people really have nothing better to do than to write to Points of View or phone up Ofcom every day?
Still I do have a thing about people who complain about trivial **** on TV. Holly Willoughby's dress caused 200+ complaints at the weekend. Do these people really have nothing better to do than to write to Points of View or phone up Ofcom every day?
Then what do you suggest they write about? Have you ever actually WATCHED a soap? The whole POINT in a soap opera is to present life as it is. Therefore current issues show up in them.
PeeWeeDan
Would that be good TV? Afterall that is the objective. Frankly i don't want the pains of the world shoved in my face.
Then don't watch TV. Its everywhere in TV, in CSI, in Law and Order, in Skins, in Shameless, the Bill, family guy, doctor who, entourage, reaper, friends, will and grace, sex and the city
Would you like me to go on? Life is in everything, if you don't want to deal with it on the telly, don't watch it.
ellie_auk
Then what do you suggest they write about? Have you ever actually WATCHED a soap? The whole POINT in a soap opera is to present life as it is. Therefore current issues show up in them.
So getting stabbed is a part of life? I suppose we all spend plenty of time in the pub and sleep with other peoples wives.
The whole point of a soap opera is to entertain because none of them really present life as it is.
fletchinator
So getting stabbed is a part of life? I suppose we all spend plenty of time in the pub and sleep with other peoples wives.
The whole point of a soap opera is to entertain because none of them really present life as it is.
The whole point of a soap opera is to entertain because none of them really present life as it is.
Yes its a part of life. You read about it in the paper its a current issue. You can't sit there and say "oh well it doesnt affect me so what the hell it doesn't matter" because it affects everyone. Whether you know the person or not it affects your general safety on the streets.
These things are over dramatised sure, but they are still part of our society as a whole, and thats what these people write about.
If they wrote story lines full of happiness sunshine and rainbows people would get bored so easily.
But as you mentioned, its everywhere, harder hitting programs like CSI, Law and order etc cover subjects like murder and violence. Why should Eastenders, a program broadcast on the BBC, start trying to portray subjects like this as well?
IMO they should just leave it to other programs and start concentrating on the usual entertaining storylines of adultery, deceit and lies, which are all part of life.
IMO they should just leave it to other programs and start concentrating on the usual entertaining storylines of adultery, deceit and lies, which are all part of life.
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