Edinburgh vs St Andrews vs Glasgow vs Birmingham vs The Courtauld History of Art

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These are my five UCAS choices. I've applied for History of Art and I live in London. I have absolutely no idea which one to choose. I feel lost. I've received offers from all but Edinburgh and St Andrews - I'm still waiting to hear back from them.

Edinburgh:
-Excellent International Reputation
-Good UK reputation
-Offers joint honours in Architectural History which is what I really want to do
-Love the modules
-Spectacular city
-Beautiful university (quite important to me)
-I love Scotland
BUT
-They didn't put much effort into their open day
-Terrible student satisfaction
-Very low in history of art league tables (Guardian and Complete University Guide)
-Accommodation is expensive

Glasgow
-Excellent History of Art Department, consistently scoring high in league tables
-AMAZING city
-Kelvingrove Art Gallery and Museum and Burrell Collection (two of the best collections of Art in the world)
-Beautiful University
-Cheaper
-Free Gym membership (lol)
-I love Scotland
BUT
-Not as good overall reputation as the others
-Only catered accommodation is far outside city centre

Birmingham
-They have their own art gallery on campus (Barber Institute of Fine Arts) and a lot of teaching takes place in the actual gallery which not all universities have
-It's a really good gallery (has Renoirs, Monets, Manets, Boticellis, Pissarros etc.)
-I liked the open day
-High up in league tables
-Big city with lots of galleries
-The main part of the uni is actually very pretty
-Not too far from London
BUT
-Redbrick uni established in 1900, not nearly as old as any of the scotland ones which are steeped in history
-Not the prettiest city tbh, not considered to be a nice place
-Campus uni (I originally wanted to be in the city centre)
-My friends don't seem to think of it as that much of a respectable uni (even though it's in the top half of the Russell Groups)
-There are no architecture modules and my main interest is in architecture (although I obvi want to do loads of art as well!) This wouldn't be the end of the world as architecture will crop up a lot within modules, just won't be the main focus
-My offer from them is unconditional (which will really take the pressure off having to get AAB which are/will be all my other offers)

St Andrews
-Best reputation as a university overall out of all of my choices
-So pretty and quaint
-Excellent in the league tables
-Excellent Student satisfaction
-My best friend goes there
-I really liked the open day
-Venerable, est. 1413
BUT
-57% of St Andrews students don't take out a student loan (ie. they're quite rich and I may not fit in with all these fancy people)
-It's a small town in the middle of nowhere
-No art galleries
-Small department based in a townhouse (not impressive compared to Birmingham with its own gallery and History of Art libraries and all that stuffs)
-I'm quite a city person and I fear St Andrews may be too small for me maybe?

The Courtauld Institute of Art, University of London
-I'm one of the few people who I know who actually got given an offer (AAB)
-It's the most exclusive/hardest to get into
-BEST place to read History of Art
-I've been told that I would be silly to reject my offer from The Courtauld
-Has its own gallery (Courtauld Gallery)
-Sooo many galleries and museums in London which I have access to
-I like the uni and the modules
-Somerset House (where it's based) is beautiful
BUT
- I already live in London so I may have to live at home which I don't want to do
-London-living might be more expensive
-Smallest University in the UK which offers undergraduate courses (intake is only 75 students) so it won't feel like a proper uni tbh
-I'd have to very social in order to make friends which people from other unis
-If I go off to work in the art world, a degree from the Courtauld will look really impressive but if i go into ANYTHING else, it won't be recognised as a good university degree because it's a small specialist institution which employers may not have heard of (they may just assume I went to a poorly performing university)
-I want to go into Architectural Conservation and am thinking of doing a postgrad which is related to the art world but who knows what interests I'll develop or jobs I'll want to go into? Would be nice to have a name-drop uni. For example, If i go to St Andrews people will just be like 'oh, he's clever' whereas if I say I went to the Courtauld I feel like many people will just be like 'Oh, where's that?' and will assume it's an unimportant institution ygm


I love all my choices and I would be happy at any of them but don't know which to choose
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(Original post by pendentivejoshua)
These are my five UCAS choices. I've applied for History of Art and I live in London. I have absolutely no idea which one to choose. I feel lost. I've received offers from all but Edinburgh and St Andrews - I'm still waiting to hear back from them.

Edinburgh:
-Excellent International Reputation
-Good UK reputation
-Offers joint honours in Architectural History which is what I really want to do
-Love the modules
-Spectacular city
-Beautiful university (quite important to me)
-I love Scotland
BUT
-They didn't put much effort into their open day
-Terrible student satisfaction
-Very low in history of art league tables (Guardian and Complete University Guide)
-Accommodation is expensive

Glasgow
-Excellent History of Art Department, consistently scoring high in league tables
-AMAZING city
-Kelvingrove Art Gallery and Museum and Burrell Collection (two of the best collections of Art in the world)
-Beautiful University
-Cheaper
-Free Gym membership (lol)
-I love Scotland
BUT
-Not as good overall reputation as the others
-Only catered accommodation is far outside city centre

Birmingham
-They have their own art gallery on campus (Barber Institute of Fine Arts) and a lot of teaching takes place in the actual gallery which not all universities have
-It's a really good gallery (has Renoirs, Monets, Manets, Boticellis, Pissarros etc.)
-I liked the open day
-High up in league tables
-Big city with lots of galleries
-The main part of the uni is actually very pretty
-Not too far from London
BUT
-Redbrick uni established in 1900, not nearly as old as any of the scotland ones which are steeped in history
-Not the prettiest city tbh, not considered to be a nice place
-Campus uni (I originally wanted to be in the city centre)
-My friends don't seem to think of it as that much of a respectable uni (even though it's in the top half of the Russell Groups)
-There are no architecture modules and my main interest is in architecture (although I obvi want to do loads of art as well!) This wouldn't be the end of the world as architecture will crop up a lot within modules, just won't be the main focus
-My offer from them is unconditional (which will really take the pressure off having to get AAB which are/will be all my other offers)

St Andrews
-Best reputation as a university overall out of all of my choices
-So pretty and quaint
-Excellent in the league tables
-Excellent Student satisfaction
-My best friend goes there
-I really liked the open day
-Venerable, est. 1413
BUT
-57% of St Andrews students don't take out a student loan (ie. they're quite rich and I may not fit in with all these fancy people)
-It's a small town in the middle of nowhere
-No art galleries
-Small department based in a townhouse (not impressive compared to Birmingham with its own gallery and History of Art libraries and all that stuffs)
-I'm quite a city person and I fear St Andrews may be too small for me maybe?

The Courtauld Institute of Art, University of London
-I'm one of the few people who I know who actually got given an offer (AAB)
-It's the most exclusive/hardest to get into
-BEST place to read History of Art
-I've been told that I would be silly to reject my offer from The Courtauld
-Has its own gallery (Courtauld Gallery)
-Sooo many galleries and museums in London which I have access to
-I like the uni and the modules
-Somerset House (where it's based) is beautiful
BUT
- I already live in London so I may have to live at home which I don't want to do
-London-living might be more expensive
-Smallest University in the UK which offers undergraduate courses (intake is only 75 students) so it won't feel like a proper uni tbh
-I'd have to very social in order to make friends which people from other unis
-If I go off to work in the art world, a degree from the Courtauld will look really impressive but if i go into ANYTHING else, it won't be recognised as a good university degree because it's a small specialist institution which employers may not have heard of (they may just assume I went to a poorly performing university)
-I want to go into Architectural Conservation and am thinking of doing a postgrad which is related to the art world but who knows what interests I'll develop or jobs I'll want to go into? Would be nice to have a name-drop uni. For example, If i go to St Andrews people will just be like 'oh, he's clever' whereas if I say I went to the Courtauld I feel like many people will just be like 'Oh, where's that?' and will assume it's an unimportant institution ygm


I love all my choices and I would be happy at any of them but don't know which to choose
From reading all the points you've mentioned you sound like you could be happiest at one of the cities universities and you say edinburgh is the best course so perhaps that is the best fit for you, you have mentioned catered accommodation is that really a necessity for you?
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From reading all the points you've mentioned you sound like you could be happiest at one of the cities universities and you say edinburgh is the best course so perhaps that is the best fit for you, you have mentioned catered accommodation is that really a necessity for you?
Edinburgh is really strong contender and yeah, I would definitely prefer having catered accommodation because it adds a struggle to uni life I guess. There's just a lot wrong with Edinburgh as well...
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St Andrews
-Best reputation as a university overall out of all of my choices
-So pretty and quaint
-Excellent in the league tables
-Excellent Student satisfaction
-My best friend goes there
-I really liked the open day
-Venerable, est. 1413
BUT
-57% of St Andrews students don't take out a student loan (ie. they're quite rich and I may not fit in with all these fancy people)
-It's a small town in the middle of nowhere
-No art galleries
-Small department based in a townhouse (not impressive compared to Birmingham with its own gallery and History of Art libraries and all that stuffs)
-I'm quite a city person and I fear St Andrews may be too small for me maybe?

Regarding the no art galleries part, the V&A Museum Dundee is opening in September and that's only a 25 minute bus ride away from St Andrews.
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Most important:

The nature of the course, which modules you like and are excited about studying.

Mid-importance:

The place. The university. Does it have your vibe. Is it a campus or a city and which do you prefer? Price of London.

Least-importance:

Their budget on open days. Rankings.



(just my opinion)
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I would hand down either Courtauld or Edinburgh. London and Edinburgh have so many public and private art galleries that you can visit while you are doing your course. I visited Edinburgh and Talbot Rice gallery was so nice. But if I have to choose one, it will be Edinburgh. I feel like London is too big, too busy and too pricey. Student life is much better in smaller city, same as nights out. Btw, you said you might not fit in with rich people. Then you should notice that nearly a half of Courtauld students went to private school.
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Hiii! Have you been to the Courtauld offer holder day? I was there and, for what I'm reading I believe we have already talked. I'm the Italian girl
It would be nice to hear from you because I'm struggling between the Courtauld and St. Andrews too.
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I currently study History of Art at Edinburgh University! It's a great, diverse course and it is continuing to improve year on year! I would highly recommend. They offer great support, all you need to do is ask!
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