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Resurrecting this thread for a couple of amendments I'd like to make...

Proxy MPs (Reflecting Precedent) Amendment
Proposed by: Saracen's Fez (Speaker)
Seconded by: Connor27 MP (Libertarian), Saoirse:3 MP (Labour)

This House would amend the Guidance Document as follows:

Remove the following from the section entitled 'MPs':

10) Proxy MPs (stand-in MP) are permitted is an MP is aware they will be away for a period of time. A proxy MP can take their place assuming the Speaker is notified with 4 days notice so that the current MP can be removed from the group and the proxy put into place. A proxy MP is instructed how to vote by the full time MP and should obey their wishes.

And replace with the following:

10) If an MP is away from the House temporarily, a party or independent MP may appoint a proxy (temporary) MP. A proxy MP should be announced in the usual manner, and will be given access to the MP usergroup for the duration of their proxy period. The permanent MP who is being proxied may leave instructions to the proxy MP on how to vote, and these instructions should be followed.
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
Resurrecting this thread for a couple of amendments I'd like to make...

Proxy MPs (Reflecting Precedent) Amendment
Proposed by: Saracen's Fez MP (Speaker)
Seconded by:

This House would amend the Guidance Document as follows:

Remove the following from the section entitled 'MPs':

10) Proxy MPs (stand-in MP) are permitted is an MP is aware they will be away for a period of time. A proxy MP can take their place assuming the Speaker is notified with 4 days notice so that the current MP can be removed from the group and the proxy put into place. A proxy MP is instructed how to vote by the full time MP and should obey their wishes.

And replace with the following:

10) If an MP is away from the House temporarily, a party or independent MP may appoint a proxy (temporary) MP. A proxy MP should be announced in the usual manner, and will be given access to the MP usergroup for the duration of their proxy period. The permanent MP who is being proxied may leave instructions to the proxy MP on how to vote, and these instructions should be followed.
What is the reasoning for this?
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What is the reasoning for this?
No Speaker in my time has enforced four days' notice for the appointment of a proxy. This appears to be an archaic rule (and members with longer service than me may be able to advise there), and it is desirable that the GD reflect reality.
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Opposition Debates Amendment
Proposed by: Saracen's Fez MP (Speaker)
Seconded by:

This House would amend the Guidance Document as follows:

Insert a new section entitled 'Opposition Debates':

1) The Speaker may choose to hold opposition debates on a timetable of their choosing. The procedure is designed to be open to all opposition parties, not just the Official Opposition, and the Speaker should share out any debates in a way that reflects the current parliamentary arithmetic.
2) In advance of the start of an opposition debate, the Speaker will approach an opposition party and request that they submit a motion on a relevant current topic. The topic of the motion will be agreed with the Speaker.
3) The motion will be posted as any other motion (and labelled as such) on the first day of the debate. Debate will be open for six days.
4) In advance of the final day of debate, the relevant government minister will be invited to respond to the motion on behalf of the government.
5) Following six days' debate, the motion will proceed to a four-day vote of MPs. Motions proposed as part of opposition debates may not go to additional readings.

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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
Opposition Debates Amendment
Proposed by: Saracen's Fez MP (Speaker)
Seconded by:

This House would amend the Guidance Document as follows:

Insert a new section entitled 'Opposition Debates':

1) The Speaker may choose to hold opposition debates on a timetable of their choosing. The procedure is designed to be open to all opposition parties, not just the Official Opposition, and the Speaker should share out any debates in a way that reflects the current parliamentary arithmetic.
2) In advance of the start of an opposition debate, the Speaker will approach an opposition party and request that they submit a motion on a relevant current topic. The topic of the motion will be agreed with the Speaker.
3) The motion will be posted as any other motion (and labelled as such) on the first day of the debate. Debate will be open for six days.
4) In advance of the final day of debate, the relevant government minister will be invited to respond to the motion on behalf of the government.
5) Following six days' debate, the motion will proceed to a four-day vote of MPs. Motions proposed as part of opposition debates may not go to additional readings.

I'm not really sure what this adds. Would you care to explain?
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
Resurrecting this thread for a couple of amendments I'd like to make...

Proxy MPs (Reflecting Precedent) Amendment
Proposed by: Saracen's Fez MP (Speaker)
Seconded by:

This House would amend the Guidance Document as follows:

Remove the following from the section entitled 'MPs':

10) Proxy MPs (stand-in MP) are permitted is an MP is aware they will be away for a period of time. A proxy MP can take their place assuming the Speaker is notified with 4 days notice so that the current MP can be removed from the group and the proxy put into place. A proxy MP is instructed how to vote by the full time MP and should obey their wishes.

And replace with the following:

10) If an MP is away from the House temporarily, a party or independent MP may appoint a proxy (temporary) MP. A proxy MP should be announced in the usual manner, and will be given access to the MP usergroup for the duration of their proxy period. The permanent MP who is being proxied may leave instructions to the proxy MP on how to vote, and these instructions should be followed.
Need to specify 'usual manner'.
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Need to specify 'usual manner'.
It is specified in the Constitution:
4.5.1 Should an MP be replaced within the party, even by a replacement MP for a short period of time, this should be notified in the relevant parties Q+A thread within 48 hours at maximum.
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I'm not really sure what this adds. Would you care to explain?
Having seen that we get people to visit the MHoC when we debate things that are of wider general interest, the hope is that these debates, on newsworthy matters, will be a starting point to get more people into the House. It seems that a lot of the issues (though at this precise moment in time it doesn't seem as bad as a couple of weeks ago) are of more limited or specialised interest, so the hope with these would be to ensure larger questions are also debated regularly.
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
Having seen that we get people to visit the MHoC when we debate things that are of wider general interest, the hope is that these debates, on newsworthy matters, will be a starting point to get more people into the House. It seems that a lot of the issues (though at this precise moment in time it doesn't seem as bad as a couple of weeks ago) are of more limited or specialised interest, so the hope with these would be to ensure larger questions are also debated regularly.
I thought as much, and this would be instigated by you pushing opposition parties into doing things?
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I thought as much, and this would be instigated by you pushing opposition parties into doing things?
I mean if a party chose not to submit a motion, I would let another party have a chance, but I would hope that opposition parties would be keen to put their policies to the House.
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I cannot remember that rule ever being enforced and I've been around since 2011. It is probably as old as the Guidance Document itself and I don't believe it's been enforced while any currently active member has been here. Definitely one fit for the bin so I'm happy to support that amendment.
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I cannot remember that rule ever being enforced and I've been around since 2011. It is probably as old as the Guidance Document itself and I don't believe it's been enforced while any currently active member has been here. Definitely one fit for the bin so I'm happy to support that amendment.
Great – can I put you down on the amendment?
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Great – can I put you down on the amendment?
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(Original post by Saoirse:3)
I cannot remember that rule ever being enforced and I've been around since 2011. It is probably as old as the Guidance Document itself and I don't believe it's been enforced while any currently active member has been here. Definitely one fit for the bin so I'm happy to support that amendment.
:hello:

Though yes, that bit was in when the GD when we wrote it
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
Resurrecting this thread for a couple of amendments I'd like to make...

Proxy MPs (Reflecting Precedent) Amendment
Proposed by: Saracen's Fez (Speaker)
Seconded by: Saoirse:3 MP (Labour)

This House would amend the Guidance Document as follows:

Remove the following from the section entitled 'MPs':

10) Proxy MPs (stand-in MP) are permitted is an MP is aware they will be away for a period of time. A proxy MP can take their place assuming the Speaker is notified with 4 days notice so that the current MP can be removed from the group and the proxy put into place. A proxy MP is instructed how to vote by the full time MP and should obey their wishes.

And replace with the following:

10) If an MP is away from the House temporarily, a party or independent MP may appoint a proxy (temporary) MP. A proxy MP should be announced in the usual manner, and will be given access to the MP usergroup for the duration of their proxy period. The permanent MP who is being proxied may leave instructions to the proxy MP on how to vote, and these instructions should be followed.
Support this, although I am not an MP.

(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
Opposition Debates Amendment
Proposed by: Saracen's Fez MP (Speaker)
Seconded by:

This House would amend the Guidance Document as follows:

Insert a new section entitled 'Opposition Debates':

1) The Speaker may choose to hold opposition debates on a timetable of their choosing. The procedure is designed to be open to all opposition parties, not just the Official Opposition, and the Speaker should share out any debates in a way that reflects the current parliamentary arithmetic.
2) In advance of the start of an opposition debate, the Speaker will approach an opposition party and request that they submit a motion on a relevant current topic. The topic of the motion will be agreed with the Speaker.
3) The motion will be posted as any other motion (and labelled as such) on the first day of the debate. Debate will be open for six days.
4) In advance of the final day of debate, the relevant government minister will be invited to respond to the motion on behalf of the government.
5) Following six days' debate, the motion will proceed to a four-day vote of MPs. Motions proposed as part of opposition debates may not go to additional readings.
Not sure about this. Kinda preferred what I did, by allowing individuals to submit topics that were then debated, as a lot of non-MHoCers took part (particularly on the Euthanasia one iirc)
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Not sure we really need to codify the opposition debates. Will have a think about that particular proxy idea.
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Saracen\ I’ll second the amendment repealing the archaic 4 day rule, if you’ll have me.
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Saracen\ I’ll second the amendment repealing the archaic 4 day rule, if you’ll have me.
Cheers.

As I only need two members as Speaker, I'll get this up tomorrow.
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By-Elections (Electoral System) Amendment
Proposed by: Saracen's Fez (Speaker)
Seconded by: 04MR17 MP (Lib Dem)

This House would amend the Guidance Document as follows:

Remove the following from the section entitled 'By-Elections':

8) Should the condition in 4) be true:
8) i) Each party may only have 1 candidate running running under their banner
8) ii) If an equal number or fewer candidates stand than seats to be assigned, the by-election shall be cancelled.
8) iii) The poll shall be a multiple choice vote, unless there is only 1 seat to be assigned.

And replace with the following:

8) Should the condition in 4) be true:
8) i) Each party may only stand up to as many candidates as there are seats to be assigned.
8) ii) If an equal number or fewer candidates stand than seats to be assigned, all candidates will be elected and no vote will take place.
8) iii) Each eligible voter will be permitted to vote for a single candidate.


Explanatory Notes
For context, this refers to regulations for by-elections where fewer than 5 seats are up for election. The amendment itself changes these so that parties may stand (if they so wish) as many candidates as there are seats to be assigned, to improve transparency through discouraging 'temporary' independent candidates. To ensure the outcome is proportional to the votes cast, the amendment also abolishes multiple-choice voting.
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(Original post by Saracen's Fez)
By-Elections (Electoral System) Amendment
Proposed by: Saracen's Fez (Speaker)
Seconded by:

This House would amend the Guidance Document as follows:

Remove the following from the section entitled 'By-Elections':

8) Should the condition in 4) be true:
8) i) Each party may only have 1 candidate running running under their banner
8) ii) If an equal number or fewer candidates stand than seats to be assigned, the by-election shall be cancelled.
8) iii) The poll shall be a multiple choice vote, unless there is only 1 seat to be assigned.

And replace with the following:

8) Should the condition in 4) be true:
8) i) Each party may only stand up to as many candidates as there are seats to be assigned.
8) ii) If an equal number or fewer candidates stand than seats to be assigned, all candidates will be elected and no vote will take place.
8) iii) Each eligible voter will be permitted to vote for a single candidate.


Explanatory Notes
For context, this refers to regulations for by-elections where fewer than 5 seats are up for election. The amendment itself changes these so that parties may stand (if they so wish) as many candidates as there are seats to be assigned, to improve transparency through discouraging 'temporary' independent candidates. To ensure the outcome is proportional to the votes cast, the amendment also abolishes multiple-choice voting.
I will back that.
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So imagine that 4 seats go up, each party can.stand 4 candidates (Remember that TSR maximum poll size is 16). That's ridiculous at run a mass FPTP in this situation.

If you really want to change it make it Google forms STV
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