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can i do medicine with ABB?

i am sending my UCAS form off in 3 days for medicine, but would i get a place with predicted grades ABB
i know it would be better to have AAB but becasue my AS were BCC i would be predicted ABB. some ppl are saying persuade your subject tutors to predicted you an A,but how do i do that?

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Reply 1
a5h
i am sending my UCAS form off in 3 days for medicine, but would i get a place with predicted grades ABB
i know it would be better to have AAB but becasue my AS were BCC i would be predicted ABB. some ppl are saying persuade your subject tutors to predicted you an A,but how do i do that?


Go and have a chat with them, explain everything, and how ABB will leave you disadvantaged and limit where you can apply to. Be honest, upfront and frank.

good lcuk!

fx
yes you'll probably get some offers but....... let me put this bluntly..... if you struggled at AS, you'll struggle at A2, and you'll struggle at medical school

if you are not academic, medicine is not for you
Reply 3
DazYaABBB
yes you'll probably get some offers but....... let me put this bluntly..... if you struggled at AS, you'll struggle at A2, and you'll struggle at medical school

if you are not academic, medicine is not for you


Total crap, to put it bluntly! It's 'well cited' that medicine is a CCC subject, boosted to AAA/AAB/ABB because of it's popularity...

I got E,N, D the first time I sat my A-Levels. Does that make me none academic?
Reply 4
Fluffy
Total crap, to put it bluntly! It's 'well cited' that medicine is a CCC subject, boosted to AAA/AAB/ABB because of it's popularity...

I got E,N, D the first time I sat my A-Levels. Does that make me none academic?


Well, it is a vocational science course! The term 'science' is used lightly here. I would say that there are many aspects of medicine that do require you to be 'academically brilliant', but nobody will be forced into such specialities.
Reply 5
Hey don't worry too much 2 of my offers were ABB from imperial and UCL, my friend had predicted grades of ABB and got into imperial, but she worked really hard!!! Just try and impress them at the interview and have a really good personal statement. I think offers from london unis are lower....and UCL changed its offer to AAB this yr and u have to sit an aptitude test!!!
Good Luck! :smile:
Reply 6
chocaholic
Hey don't worry too much 2 of my offers were ABB from imperial and UCL, my friend had predicted grades of ABB and got into imperial, but she worked really hard!!! Just try and impress them at the interview and have a really good personal statement. I think offers from london unis are lower....and UCL changed its offer to AAB this yr and u have to sit an aptitude test!!!
Good Luck! :smile:


This person got 2 A's at GCSE and *relatively* poor grades at As level. It's going to be difficult to convince the admissions dept that he/she is capable of ABB, and AAB will be almost out of the question.
He/she will struggle to get an offer and then struggle to get the grades. A2 is hard, but doing it whilst doing retakes here and there is much harder. Picking up the grades may well prove a task too arduous.
Fluffy
Total crap, to put it bluntly! It's 'well cited' that medicine is a CCC subject, boosted to AAA/AAB/ABB because of it's popularity...

I got E,N, D the first time I sat my A-Levels. Does that make me none academic?


No it's not total crap, just because you did about 50 degrees to get you onto the course, doesn't mean you know everything

do you realise how big the drop out rate for medicine is? my friend has a sister who has just finished her first year and found it so damn hard

CCC subject? HJAHJAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAH that's the funniest thing i've heard.
Kaos
This person got 2 A's at GCSE and *relatively* poor grades at As level. It's going to be difficult to convince the admissions dept that he/she is capable of ABB, and AAB will be almost out of the question.
He/she will struggle to get an offer and then struggle to get the grades. A2 is hard, but doing it whilst doing retakes here and there is much harder. Picking up the grades may well prove a task too arduous.

Amen to that.

that is what i wanted to say but i didn't want the pessimistic views encroaching on my mind
Reply 9
DazYaABBB
No it's not total crap, just because you did about 50 degrees to get you onto the course, doesn't mean you know everything

do you realise how big the drop out rate for medicine is? my friend has a sister who has just finished her first year and found it so damn hard

CCC subject? HJAHJAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAH that's the funniest thing i've heard.


A-Levels are not a good indicator of success at medical school. GCSEs results are better - higher GCSE results have been shown to correlate with higher pass marks in medical school than A-Level UMS scores

the only reason medicine asks for AAB is because of competition. when the old A-Levels were around, common offer grades were BCC.

it is not a terribly academic subject when compared to pure science, it just involves a hell of a lot more memorising and extra volume of work. fluffy is perfectly correct in saying CCC candidates could do the course from a purely academic point of view.
timeofyourlife
A-Levels are not a good indicator of success at medical school. GCSEs results are better - higher GCSE results have been shown to correlate with higher pass marks in medical school than A-Level UMS scores

the only reason medicine asks for AAB is because of competition. when the old A-Levels were around, common offer grades were BCC.

it is not a terribly academic subject when compared to pure science, it just involves a hell of a lot more memorising and extra volume of work. fluffy is perfectly correct in saying CCC candidates could do the course from a purely academic point of view.


HAHAHAHAH if you put any CCC grade candidate on a medical degree programme hardly ANY of them would finish it
Reply 11
DazYaABBB
HAHAHAHAH if you put any CCC grade candidate on a medical degree programme hardly ANY of them would finish it


evidently not the thousands of CCC candidates that did the old A-Levels and are now doctors.

what that says about our exams is another debate entirely.
Reply 12
some unis want A-C in GCSE and really don't care what i got for my AS but just to be on the safe side should i apply to unis which want ABB, if there are any or talk to subject tutors and MAKE them give me an A.(like fluffy sed) lol

my friend has the grades but is'nt motivated to a med. course, where as i have done everything to get in and am enthusiastic about medicine. i can talk for hours why i think i am suitable for the course, i hv lots of WK, voluntary work, courses, skills (the list goes on) which makes me an ideal medical student :biggrin: , its just my grades are letting me down.
timeofyourlife
evidently not the thousands of CCC candidates that did the old A-Levels and are now doctors.

what that says about our exams is another debate entirely.


that was back then though........ it was harder back then, much harder and people could get jobs easier
Reply 14
DazYaABBB
that was back then though........ it was harder back then, much harder and people could get jobs easier


as i said, that's another debate. although, i would go as far to say that today's candidates with BBB at A2 would beable to cope with the academic side of the medicine course. competition dictates the top A-grades required for a place these days.
timeofyourlife
as i said, that's another debate. although, i would go as far to say that today's candidates with BBB at A2 would beable to cope with the academic side of the medicine course. competition dictates the top A-grades required for a place these days.


ok but grades will affect how the person copes with the course/if she/he drops out as you justified with the gcse's
a5h
some unis want A-C in GCSE and really don't care what i got for my AS but just to be on the safe side should i apply to unis which want ABB, if there are any or talk to subject tutors and MAKE them give me an A.(like fluffy sed) lol

my friend has the grades but is'nt motivated to a med. course, where as i have done everything to get in and am enthusiastic about medicine. i can talk for hours why i think i am suitable for the course, i hv lots of WK, voluntary work, courses, skills (the list goes on) which makes me an ideal medical student :biggrin: , its just my grades are letting me down.

yes, you may have to re take the year because believe me, getting the BCC up to an ABB will be bloody hard, plus resits..... and then re sits could affect other exams and blah blah

it's a vicious circle
Reply 17
a5h
some unis want A-C in GCSE and really don't care what i got for my AS but just to be on the safe side should i apply to unis which want ABB, if there are any or talk to subject tutors and MAKE them give me an A.(like fluffy sed) lol

my friend has the grades but is'nt motivated to a med. course, where as i have done everything to get in and am enthusiastic about medicine. i can talk for hours why i think i am suitable for the course, i hv lots of WK, voluntary work, courses, skills (the list goes on) which makes me an ideal medical student :biggrin: , its just my grades are letting me down.

Even the ABB courses are popular. Indeed, Sheffield is one of the most popular courses. I would say that you should avoid AAB courses, and if you are adamant that you are applying to medicine then you should apply to some of the newer universities.

Southampton has a widening access course where you need 200pts, with 160 of them coming from Biology + chemistry at A2. Maybe you should try this. It's a 6 year course where you come out with a bachelor of medicine from a respectable university. 80pts means 2 C's, and the 40 points will effectively mean an E. I'm not too sure about the course itself, but my info is coming directly from the prospectus and it's unlikely that I am miss-interpreting it. Check their website for more info. If you're desperate to take medicine then it's courses like this that you should be looking at.

Anyway, the vast majority of prospective med students can talk about such things. Many also have a lot of work experience, and had a strong sense of vocation whilst doing it. Don't underestimate the competition for places.
Reply 18

5 A's 3 B's 1C @ GCSE

BEEc @ A2/AS (extenuating circumstances)

Resat the 2E's getting BC at AS despite only sitting 2/3 of exams.

Starting at Southampton either this year or next year on their 6 yr course. Received 2 offers 2 years in a row.

Had i not been accepted into Southampton i would have finished the rest of my exams, aiming to get AA.

If medicine ever declines in popularity, the entry requirements will decline. Its not an common thing to hear of medicine being called a CCC subject. One of the reason i'm so attracted it, is because its not just about being an academic. I'm much stronger in humanties subjects, but medicine is what i want to do and yes ABB narrows dwon the options and makes things more difficult, but nothing is impossible.

If i listened to all the people who told me i wasn't academically minded enough i might as well have carried on doing shop work.
Sarky

5 A's 3 B's 1C @ GCSE

BEEc @ A2/AS (extenuating circumstances)

Resat the 2E's getting BC at AS despite only sitting 2/3 of exams.

Starting at Southampton either this year or next year on their 6 yr course. Received 2 offers 2 years in a row.

Had i not been accepted into Southampton i would have finished the rest of my exams, aiming to get AA.

If medicine ever declines in popularity, the entry requirements will decline. Its not an common thing to hear of medicine being called a CCC subject. One of the reason i'm so attracted it, is because its not just about being an academic. I'm much stronger in humanties subjects, but medicine is what i want to do and yes ABB narrows dwon the options and makes things more difficult, but nothing is impossible

If i listened to all the people who told me i wasn't academically minded enough i might as well have carried on doing shop work.


I know it's corny, but that was really inspirational to read :smile:

Well done!