It's not hard to get offers from Universities Watch

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Saw an AMA bragging about getting 5/5 offers from RG universities, according to stats on UCAS (published 3 days ago)/Wikipedia, it really is not that hard to get an offer from a top university.

Half of the Russell Group give out offers to more than 75% of their applicants.

With the relaxation of student numbers since 2012, universities are competing for students rather than applicants competing for places at universities. For example at UCL, intake has increased from 4,900 (2013) to 6,140 (2017) - that's a 25% increase in intake over 5 years.

I hope that applicants are aware of this and become more ambitious with their university choices.
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You do realise that people that are predicted BBB aren't applying to these universities... While the acceptance rate is high those who attain AAA+ isn't.
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This is a slight oversimplification, as you don't know the relative quality of students applying.

Does Cardiff have a 79% offer rate, which is lower than Warwick and Nottingham, because Cardiff is more selective? Or could it be that Warwick and Notts have more viable applicants and this is reflected in their offer rate? And do Warwick and Notts have more high-quality students who end up not taking their places, instead end up at the Golden Triangle.

So for an individual applicant, say with ABB predictions, it would be rather poor advice to tell them to "aim higher". They might be the 10-25% who do not get an offer and, should they receive an offer, they might not meet its terms on Results Day. For an applicant with higher predictions, it is probably half-decent advice, but still its validity cannot be overstated.
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it's not hard because students are advised not to apply for unis with higher entry requirements than their predicted grades. When i applied this year, a lot of my friends were not allowed to send off their ucas applications as they had unis where the entry requirements were too high for them.
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...if you meet the entry requirements.
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Most people applying to a university will have the required predicted/ grades. I wouldn't go and apply to somewhere that asks for AAA if I'm only predicted ACC.

You would need to know the percentages of students accepted onto a course that had less than the entry 'requirements'.
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ah yes.... because a high offer rate means the uni is nothing to brag about.... of course! what healthy logic u have there, how dare anyone feel proud for getting offers from RGs now!
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ah yes.... because a high offer rate means the uni is nothing to brag about.... of course! what healthy logic u have there, how dare anyone feel proud for getting offers from RGs now!
thank you. i'm sick of people on TSR acting like getting 5/5 offers from RG universities is not an achievement.

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why can't all you sane logical people be in my thread instead of the trolls
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thank you. i'm sick of people on TSR acting like getting 5/5 offers from RG universities is not an achievement.
It's not really though. Thousands of kids (probably ~50-100k people) get lots of RG/top non-RG offers every year.
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(Original post by Princepieman)
It's not really though. Thousands of kids (probably ~50-100k people) get lots of RG/top non-RG offers every year.
how dare anyone feel proud for getting offers from RGs now!

did you get 5/5 offers if it's so common??
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(Original post by Oaken12)
thank you. i'm sick of people on TSR acting like getting 5/5 offers from RG universities is not an achievement
Obviously getting offers is an achievement, however this thread is in response to that stupid AMA page. Like has been said previously a lot of people get 5/5 offers, its really not hard if your PS is up to scratch and your predicted grades are on par. I was obviously happy when i got my offers but i am not going to make an AMA about it because i haven't even got into the unis yet.
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ah yes.... because a high offer rate means the uni is nothing to brag about.... of course! what healthy logic u have there, how dare anyone feel proud for getting offers from RGs now!
What, in your view, are the other things worth bragging about?
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why can't all you sane logical people be in my thread instead of the trolls
I was in your thread and I think my post (in which I said you were accepted by 5 easy unis) inspired OP to make this thread.

I simply disagree with OP's argument, rather than supporting your claim to fame.
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how dare anyone feel proud for getting offers from RGs now!

did you get 5/5 offers if it's so common??
close enough 4/5 but Oxbridge rej.
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it really is not that hard to get an offer from a top university.
It's not hard to get an offer from any university. The key point is applying to the right university that matches your grades. Students getting A*A*A* at A Level probably won't have much trouble getting their offers to RG unis, but students getting BCC are not going to be encouraged to apply for RGs in the first place, let alone have a good chance at getting an offer.

Based on the information in the table, students getting A*A*A* would actually have more competition getting into Oxford or Cambridge than students getting A*AA would have competition getting into Southampton. In both cases students getting BBB are going to have a much bigger struggle with any of the mentioned unis.

So no, it's not difficult to get an offer, providing you have something (which is usually grades) to back it up. It's like saying it's not difficult to drive a car, providing you've spent 20 hours learning and have passed your tests.
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(Original post by Appazap)
Obviously getting offers is an achievement, however this thread is in response to that stupid AMA page. Like has been said previously a lot of people get 5/5 offers, its really not hard if your PS is up to scratch and your predicted grades are on par. I was obviously happy when i got my offers but i am not going to make an AMA about it because i haven't even got into the unis yet.
actually not true, i think the above table shows that not everyone gets 5/5 offers.

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I was in your thread and I think my post (in which I said you were accepted by 5 easy unis) inspired OP to make this thread.

I simply disagree with OP's argument, rather than supporting your claim to fame.
please tell me how glasgow, birmingham, leeds, newcastle and liverpool are easy universities.

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close enough 4/5 but Oxbridge rej.
enough said.

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It's not hard to get an offer from any university. The key point is applying to the right university that matches your grades. Students getting A*A*A* at A Level probably won't have much trouble getting their offers to RG unis, but students getting BCC are not going to be encouraged to apply for RGs in the first place, let alone have a good chance at getting an offer.

Based on the information in the table, students getting A*A*A* would actually have more competition getting into Oxford or Cambridge than students getting A*AA would have competition getting into Southampton. In both cases students getting BBB are going to have a much bigger struggle with any of the mentioned unis.

So no, it's not difficult to get an offer, providing you have something (which is usually grades) to back it up. It's like saying it's not difficult to drive a car, providing you've spent 20 hours learning and have passed your tests.
yeh getting an offer from oxbridge is sooo easy.
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yeh getting an offer from oxbridge is sooo easy.
I'm using any in the context of "not just RGs". As in it's easy to get an offer from any university, not just RG unis. And then I go on to explain why. Oxford and Cambridge are largely the exception to the rule because according to the above statistics only one in three or four actually get a place. I thought that much was obvious.
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(Original post by Acsel)
I'm using any in the context of "not just RGs". As in it's easy to get an offer from any university, not just RG unis. And then I go on to explain why. Oxford and Cambridge are largely the exception to the rule because according to the above statistics only one in three or four actually get a place. I thought that much was obvious.
fair enough, what im trying to get at is that even meeting the entry requirements won't guarantee you with an offer.
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(Original post by Oaken12)
enough said.
Like you're better for getting into 5 mediocre-to-bottom RGs than someone who's got into all of theirs bar Oxbridge which takes a higher calibre of student just to apply to?

This attitude is why people are so annoyed at you. Get off your non-existent high horse.
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actually not true, i think the above table shows that not everyone gets 5/5 offers.



please tell me how glasgow, birmingham, leeds, newcastle and liverpool are easy universities.



enough said.



yeh getting an offer from oxbridge is sooo easy.
Look if getting 5/5 offers is the bane of your existence, that's you. Obviously a lot of people on tsr are not going to see it as a really good achievement because a lot of people here have got 5/5 offers and have gone to their first choice uni or got 5/5 offers and failed to get into uni on results day. In the grand scheme of things, although getting offers makes you a step closer to going to uni, you're not actually at the uni. :sigh:
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