It&#x27;s not hard to get offers from Universities

Original post by Amanzhol

Like you're better for getting into 5 mediocre-to-bottom RGs than someone who's got into all of theirs bar Oxbridge which takes a higher calibre of student just to apply to?

This attitude is why people are so annoyed at you. Get off your non-existent high horse.

mediocre-to-bottom? get off your high horse. have you attended any of those institutions? what right do you have to say they are mediocre?

Original post by Appazap

Look if getting 5/5 offers is the bane of your existence, that's you. Obviously a lot of people on tsr are not going to see it as a really good achievement because a lot of people here have got 5/5 offers and have gone to their first choice uni or got 5/5 offers and failed to get into uni on results day. In the grand scheme of things, although getting offers makes you a step closer to going to uni, you're not actually at the uni. :sigh:

i'm pretty much already there. I know universities accept students even if they don't meet their offer on the day.

Yes but I think that for most universities if you are near the entry requirements, then you will get an offer (minus the top five in that chart).

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ScotBank16

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Original post by C_Richards99

Saw an AMA bragging about getting 5/5 offers from RG universities, according to stats on UCAS (published 3 days ago)/Wikipedia, it really is not that hard to get an offer from a top university.

Half of the Russell Group give out offers to more than 75% of their applicants.

With the relaxation of student numbers since 2012, universities are competing for students rather than applicants competing for places at universities. For example at UCL, intake has increased from 4,900 (2013) to 6,140 (2017) - that's a 25% increase in intake over 5 years.

I hope that applicants are aware of this and become more ambitious with their university choices.

lol at Lancaster and Exeter. If you remove their Medicine course, they must give offers to anyone who applies.

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Appazap

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Original post by Oaken12

I'm pretty much already there. I know universities accept students even if they don't meet their offer on the day.

What is your firm choice and what course have you applied to out of curiosity?

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Amanzhol

Original post by Oaken12

mediocre-to-bottom? get off your high horse. have you attended any of those institutions? what right do you have to say they are mediocre?

I have not, but by your logic no one should have opinions on the standards of any institution they haven't attended, so how can you think so highly of your university choices if you haven't actually attended them, I wonder?

You're not even addressing the point of my comment because you know how obnoxious and full of yourself you're being. If you're proud of getting offers from those universities, then so be it, good on you. But don't go around thinking you're some sort of demi-god because you got into those RGs when you don't even understand that their RG title is not as important as you think it is, on top of which you dismiss non-RGs which are undoubtedly superior to your choices which just makes you look more and more foolish and arrogant.

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Dannyboy2015

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Tbf as long as your school is willing to give you good predictions (and they are somewhat reasonable) then it really isn't that hard to get offers from RG uni's in my opinion. Although I did have a really good teacher emailing me at all times of the morning telling me to edit things in my personal statement.

ofc the difficulty comes in actually getting those grades in the offer and not dropping out of uni because you do no work right up till exams.

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Original post by Appazap

What is your firm choice and what course have you applied to out of curiosity?

Chemistry at Glasgow, it's a top 10 university so it's probably the best out of my options. Insurance will probs be Leeds/Newcastle.

Original post by Amanzhol

I have not, but by your logic no one should have opinions on the standards of any institution they haven't attended, so how can you think so highly of your university choices if you haven't actually attended them, I wonder?

You're not even addressing the point of my comment because you know how obnoxious and full of yourself you're being. If you're proud of getting offers from those universities, then so be it, good on you. But don't go around thinking you're some sort of demi-god because you got into those RGs when you don't even understand that their RG title is not as important as you think it is, on top of which you dismiss non-RGs which are undoubtedly superior to your choices which just makes you look more and more foolish and arrogant.

Because they are Russell Group. You're the one who's the obnoxious thinking that they have the right to judge whether a university is good or not. If there were any superior institutions for research, they would be in the RG. A university's purpose is for research, not just teaching.

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iodo345

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Universities are interested in £££££ of course they are going to give offers/ lower requirements (eg clearing)

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username3489684

Original post by Anagogic

You do realise that people that are predicted BBB aren't applying to these universities... While the acceptance rate is high those who attain AAA+ isn't.

i applied to newcastle university for english literature with grades: BBB and got an offer for it even thought they usually requires AAA but they reduced the offer to ABB for me

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Yeh, this would be true if universities didnt enter clearing. Except 95%+ of universities do.

Ok top 13 then.

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Amanzhol

Original post by Oaken12

Because they are Russell Group. You're the one who's the obnoxious thinking that they have the right to judge whether a university is good or not. If there were any superior institutions for research, they would be in the RG. A university's purpose is for research, not just teaching.

Congratulations, you're finally understanding that RG status is based on research output. Now explain how that actually has any relevance to you as a to-be undergraduate student, and how that makes your choices superior to non-RGs.

Might I add that, to the best of my knowledge, both Bath and St Andrews have in the past been invited to be a part of the RG, but made the decision themselves to remain out of it.

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AspiringUnderdog

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Original post by C_Richards99

Saw an AMA bragging about getting 5/5 offers from RG universities, according to stats on UCAS (published 3 days ago)/Wikipedia, it really is not that hard to get an offer from a top university.

Half of the Russell Group give out offers to more than 75% of their applicants.

With the relaxation of student numbers since 2012, universities are competing for students rather than applicants competing for places at universities. For example at UCL, intake has increased from 4,900 (2013) to 6,140 (2017) - that's a 25% increase in intake over 5 years.

I hope that applicants are aware of this and become more ambitious with their university choices.

It's easy to get an offer for a lot but the real achievement is getting the grades. The universities offer more people than they have places because there isn't enough information to determine if someone will achieve the grades. Predicted grades are generally wrong, even if below the required grades.
From what it seems the universities are just giving people the opportunity so that it is the student's fault if they miss out.

I'd like to see if the acceptance (or enrolment) percentage after results day is the same.

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Original post by Amanzhol

Congratulations, you're finally understanding that RG status is based on research output. Now explain how that actually has any relevance to you as a to-be undergraduate student, and how that makes your choices superior to non-RGs.

Might I add that, to the best of my knowledge, both Bath and St Andrews have in the past been invited to be a part of the RG, but made the decision themselves to remain out of it.

Because I would benefit from being educating at a university with the best resources/facilities for my course AND by world-leading academics who produce high quality research. If I'm being taught by the person who wrote my textbook, I would benefit much more.

Now, answer my question: what gives you the right to say whether a university is mediocre or not?

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elliew8

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Getting an offer is pretty hard if you want to study a course like Vet Med or Med though. You have to be extremely clever, be amazing at interviews and have loads of work experience. Those who apply are lucky to even receive one offer. For the majority of course, yes, getting an offer is fairly easy.

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Amanzhol

Original post by Oaken12

Because I would benefit from being educating at a university with the best resources/facilities for my course AND by world-leading academics who produce high quality research. If I'm being taught by the person who wrote my textbook, I would benefit much more.

Now, answer my question: what gives you the right to say whether a university is mediocre or not?

You don't seem to understand that it's far more important, at undergraduate level, to go to a university that is actually known for/is considered good for your course (is that St Andrews I hear?), and that it's also far more important to be educated by the best teachers, not the best researchers (who are often not the best teachers at all). Also, I hate to say it, but how likely is it that you're going to be taught by the person who wrote your textbook? Given the number of better universities that there are, I'd say probably pretty unlikely.

I think I'm allowed to have an opinion on the quality of a university, there are plenty of league tables and students' opinions to make a personal judgement of what a mediocre RG is.

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Original post by Amanzhol

You don't seem to understand that it's far more important, at undergraduate level, to go to a university that is actually known for/is considered good for your course (is that St Andrews I hear?), and that it's also far more important to be educated by the best teachers, not the best researchers (who are often not the best teachers at all). Also, I hate to say it, but how likely is it that you're going to be taught by the person who wrote your textbook? Given the number of better universities that there are, I'd say probably pretty unlikely.

I think I'm allowed to have an opinion on the quality of a university, there are plenty of league tables and students' opinions to make a personal judgement of what a mediocre RG is.

You don't seem to understand that people have different priorities when deciding to choose universities. For me. going to a well-known prestigious university is one of the most important factors. Going to a Russell Group university fulfils this criteria. I had never even heard of St Andrews before I looked at league tables. And I doubt many people have. And just because I go to a RG, does not mean that the teaching will be bad. I applied to Newcastle, Leeds and Birmingham - all achieved Gold in the TEF.

More likely than if I didnt go to a non-RG.

Tell me how Glasgow, a university ranked 10th in the UK by league tables, is "mediocre".

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lucabrasi98

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Original post by Anagogic

You do realise that people that are predicted BBB aren't applying to these universities... While the acceptance rate is high those who attain AAA+ isn't.

Not even this is true. You can get into courses despite being 3-4 grades below entry requirements. I don't know why people are getting offended by this thread tbh. It's a GOOD THING. Why do you want getting into Uni to be difficult?

Original post by Oaken12

You don't seem to understand that people have different priorities when deciding to choose universities. For me. going to a well-known prestigious university is one of the most important factors. Going to a Russell Group university fulfils this criteria. I had never even heard of St Andrews before I looked at league tables. And I doubt many people have. And just because I go to a RG, does not mean that the teaching will be bad. I applied to Newcastle, Leeds and Birmingham - all achieved Gold in the TEF.

More likely than if I didnt go to a non-RG.

Tell me how Glasgow, a university ranked 10th in the UK by league tables, is "mediocre".

Did you seriously just talk about how you hadn't even heard of St Andrews... then show off about going to Glasgow Uni lmao.

Tbh I can only think of a small handful of jobs at most where Uni Prestige really matters. With everything else I'd say there's a massive range of Uni's that'll open the same doors for you. So you might as well pick which you'd enjoy learning/socialising at the most.

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