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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    Maybe he should take the hint it's something he's doing, rather than something the women are doing?
    What? He is doing something wrong by meeting some horrible women? I guess it is the man’s fault then.
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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    Fair, but the issue is that sometimes it is difficult.

    A man meets a woman with a “character flaw”, she messes him up. When he realises, he moves on to another woman, who messes him up as well. By the time he reaches the “right” one, he has been psychologically and emotionally wrecked that he is unable to truly love the right one.

    It is no wonder, young cheerful men turn out to be heartless bast.ards when they grow up. They have been destroyed by several women over the years that they have nothing else to give.
    Tbf everyone gets messed around by dating, plenty of girls get cheated on by more than one guy and it makes them wary of trusting guys just like guys get wary of trusting girls.

    I’m not trying to condone the women who do treat men badly, just make the point that relationships often end in a clash of opinion/standards/goals in life. We can moan about how he was a scumbag and all men are jerks or how she was a hypocrite and women are fickle, or we can accept that people are flawed and pick ourselves up and try again. Letting it keep effecting you is letting them win.
    (That was far too rainbows and sunshine, sounds like a personal statement for hippie university.)
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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    What? He is doing something by meeting some horrible women? I guess it is the man’s fault then.
    But we don't know that. Maybe he should start standing up for himself instead of letting them walk all over him...
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    (Original post by queen-bee)
    I'm sorry but women shouldn't be lifting heavy things if there's men around to do it. We aren't built the same way.
    No we aren't built the same way, but neither of us are built to lift heavy things. Humans are one of the weakest species out there.
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    But we don't know that. Maybe he should start standing up for himself instead of letting them walk all over him...
    Nah there are plenty of emotionally and physically abusive women, it shouldn’t be excused as “he should stand up for himself”. Idk that sentence just reeks of victim blaming.

    There are horrible women just as there are horrible men, if a guy has a few bad experiences with women we can’t just blindly assume it’s his fault because he’s a guy. I’m not saying it’s not possible but we can’t judge either way without both sides of and more of the story...
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    But we don't know that. Maybe he should start standing up for himself instead of letting them walk all over him...
    I have a clear example of this from my friend, who was a nice guy and got ruined by many horrible women.
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    (Original post by snowman77)

    - ask the woman out and face possible rejection (women might give subtle hints, but under no circumstances will they ask the man out - that is "his job"
    - pay for the first date (and possible subsequent dates as well)
    - propose to the woman
    - treat her with meals/gifts
    - hold open the door for her
    - give up his coat if she's cold, so he can freeze (but never the other way around)
    - put the majority of effort into sex (this is centered around pleasing the woman - the man's enjoyment is always assumed)
    - be manly and dominant, never show any weak emotions, keep his problems bottled up because otherwise it's "unmanly"
    - household chores must now be shared. Women no longer have to do all the cooking and cleaning, it's shared equally between men, because otherwise it's gender discrimination/oppression. Despite the fact men are still seen as the primary breadwinner in the household and a man without a job is a virtual disaster.
    - I've asked out a few guys in my time and I'm sure plenty of women have done too.

    - I pay my half on dates and I'm sure more women also do it.

    - Plenty of women propose. My mum asked my dad to marry her. They do it less due to societal judgement.

    - I've treated men to plenty of gifts/meals.

    - I don't expect the guy to open the door for me, in fact they rarely do and it doesn't cross my mind?

    - He doesn't have to do that? I also make sure I'm warm enough outside to not need their coat. The guys are usually exceptionally hot anyway so they don't mind. Men are generally hotter than women.

    - Never met a guy who's had difficulty reaching orgasm whilst women struggle to have an orgasm during sex a lot of the time so maybe it's simply courteous for the man to try to get her to orgasm? Though not every guy is courteous.

    - Have you kept up with the times? Society is trying to encourage men to show their emotions. I never tell a guy off for crying in front of me? I actually encourage them to be open about how they're feeling because I know how important it is!

    - That's a symptom of equality. Are you expecting women to have careers, raise children and do all the house work whilst the guy just goes to work and nothing else? It's part of a modern relationship, you share the chores and the child rearing.

    You can't be making such brass assumptions of women without any actual evidence of how "most" women of the world behave. Bitterness and a lack of support for your huge generalisation makes you look a little dim.
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    (Original post by EpicBrum)
    No we aren't built the same way, but neither of us are built to lift heavy things. Humans are one of the weakest species out there.
    Le sigh
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    (Original post by cat_mac)
    It’s much kinder to the ego to blame women for their lack of romantic success, than to reflect on themselves and see that the reason they can’t get laid is how they treat people/lack of social skills/ anything other than a conspiracy that women have impossible standards. :toofunny:
    True, lmao.

    (Original post by Grumbling)
    You're just a brainless princess who insists on abusing their gender, stay single forever
    LOL I love how much I trigger you "men" whenever I bring this up. Hilarious.:laugh:
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    (Original post by cat_mac)
    Tbf everyone gets messed around by dating, plenty of girls get cheated on by more than one guy and it makes them wary of trusting guys just like guys get wary of trusting girls.

    I’m not trying to condone the women who do treat men badly, just make the point that relationships often end in a clash of opinion/standards/goals in life. We can moan about how he was a scumbag and all men are jerks or how she was a hypocrite and women are fickle, or we can accept that people are flawed and pick ourselves up and try again. Letting it keep effecting you is letting them win.
    (That was far too rainbows and sunshine, sounds like a personal statement for hippie university.)
    Fair. Lol at hippie university.
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    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...e-trial-force/

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42745181


    It hasn't been confirmed if the accusers in either of these cases are going to be prosecuted.
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    (Original post by paolo111)
    - you mean Erin Pizzey. She opened the first women's refuge in the UK, but spoke about how many of her clients had hit their male partners first, or hit as much as they were hit. For this she got her cat killed, windows smashed, 24/7 pickets outside her house, and had to flee the UK for years.
    Yes? :confused::confused: not sure who else I could of been talking about?.....

    urgh don't get me started about how 1970's feminists lynched all the rational members of the movement ( I can't remember the correct term for the non radical movement, aka those who recognised patriarchy, but didn't see it as a conspiracy to abuse women, more as a system led by men, nothing more or less).

    Some of her interviews are pretty amazing.
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    (Original post by Tiger Rag)
    er, are we?
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    (Original post by Becca G)
    ‘Focus on the topic’ says the self righteous prick who then goes on to assume I’m ‘sexually frustrated”. Look I know I’m incredibly sexy, but that’s not why I’m frustrated. I’m pissed off at guys like you who believe women can’t talk about their genuine problems, but then feel entitled enough to assert their opinion.
    I could easily make a joke about your tiny d*ck size but hey, I’m not gonna ‘stoop to your level’. Pls just f**k off already.
    Firstly, you are still off topic. Secondly, you have completely missed the point of this thread because you are so obsessed with your own issues and trying to bring them into this thread. Thirdly you assumptions about my size are wrong. Fourth, I’m not going to make assumptions about your looks but your personality is certainly an ugly one and for someone who claims to be sexy you sure do seem to have a lot of issues and enjoy trying to bring others down.
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    You must spend time around some really crappy women OP
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    (Original post by Axiomasher)
    Yes Becca, pipe down, the men are talking.
    I’m telling this person to pipe down because they are continually posting off topic posts and directing hate towards people. It has nothing to do with their gender.

    The fact your first and immediate thought is to jump on the gender bandwagon is more close to the topic of this thread. You’re so quick to blame everything on gender. Take a look at yourselves and work on that nasty personality.
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    (Original post by snowman77)
    This is what I don't understand about the modern day gender equality/feminism movement. They want equality in some areas, but other areas they are happy for things to stay the same as long as they receive the benefit.

    Women want equal treatment in the workplace with their male colleagues. They want equal pay (FWIW the gender pay gap is a myth - same job for same hours get paid the same, otherwise it's illegal), they don't want to experience sexual harassment in the workplace (what about all the false accusations which ruin men's careers?), they want the same opportunities men have, they want equal opportunities for promotion (despite many of them taking time off for maternity leave).

    This is all fair enough. Except they don't want equality in dating. Men are still expected to:

    - ask the woman out and face possible rejection (women might give subtle hints, but under no circumstances will they ask the man out - that is "his job"
    - pay for the first date (and possible subsequent dates as well)
    - propose to the woman
    - treat her with meals/gifts
    - hold open the door for her
    - give up his coat if she's cold, so he can freeze (but never the other way around)
    - put the majority of effort into sex (this is centered around pleasing the woman - the man's enjoyment is always assumed)
    - be manly and dominant, never show any weak emotions, keep his problems bottled up because otherwise it's "unmanly"
    - household chores must now be shared. Women no longer have to do all the cooking and cleaning, it's shared equally between men, because otherwise it's gender discrimination/oppression. Despite the fact men are still seen as the primary breadwinner in the household and a man without a job is a virtual disaster.


    So back to the original question: Why do women want gender equality in the workplace (and indeed many other areas), but not in dating? I'm interested to hear to views of men, women and any feminists.
    I will answer the question. It is because women don't want equality. Seriously. The feminists simply want the good things, but not bad things. So, the clean and top-paying professions, such as lawyer or pharmacist, of course women want access to those jobs, but women could care less about being a garbage truck driver (and very few are). Of course we want guys to make a fuss over us and pay for the date. As for in the bedroom things, you have a skewed view of life; sure, there are times that the guy does most of the work, but sometimes the girl does all the work, I can tell you that blow jobs are work, and the guy just lays there and enjoys it. It is a relationship, and there is a ying and yang involved, I really don't think one gets or gives more than the other.
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    True, lmao.



    LOL I love how much I trigger you "men" whenever I bring this up. Hilarious.:laugh:
    Its funny how aggressive and defensive you all get when men say the truth that is women are not supressed at all in first world countries..
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    (Original post by Grumbling)
    Its funny how aggressive and defensive you all get when men say the truth that is women are not supressed at all in first world countries..
    What the hell has that got to do with my post?
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    LOL I love how much I trigger you "men" whenever I bring this up. Hilarious.:laugh:
    hmm wondered why aswell when you said this.
 
 
 

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