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    (Original post by Wired_1800)
    Many people have been Americanised that we interchange British and American words.

    So you would only give signs to the guy?
    idk, i might initiate one day..who knows....lol
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    (Original post by ThatOldGuy)
    So you believe that, at the point where a child could be viable and physically survive without the mother, that we should outlaw abortion at that point? That isn't arbitary at all and, in fact, much of the argument for 24 weeks was based around that.


    http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk...eally-matters/

    (With an Oxford reference for your perusal)


    Obviously, you know I'm about to say "Science is advancing to the point where children more and more premature are being able to survive. This is why the current limit was placed at 24 weeks because, at the time the laws were passed, that was the limit that science could save the child.

    Currently, Amillia Taylor is the youngest premature child to be born(At 21 weeks). Do you think that the age of abortion should be reduced to less than 21 weeks, now that science has improved?
    This is a really interesting point. I think that the abortion laws should keep up with the advancement of science. Its a damn shame that doctors aren’t willing to intervene to save a baby born before 24weeks
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    idk, i might initiate one day..who knows....lol
    You should!
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    If I didn't use TSR, I wouldn't have even known that guys want women to do the approaching. It's literally only men in the UK that want women to start doing the approaching, it's so odd to me.
    A lot of guys dont give hints or even smile at me so how am I supposed to know they want me to approach them?

    This...was my response.

    Guy dont give me hints that they want me to approach them so how am I supposed to make a first move?
    You don't need hints. Just go in with the view that most guys will **** anything and you will be ok. :awesome: In that regard, you've always got the upper hand as a female.


    This is what happened to me this morning (with regards to approaching girls + them giving signals):

    This morning, there was a new girl at the place I work part time. She was staring at me a reasonable amount (we locked eyes for a good 2-3 seconds a few times). She smiled at me when I went to get something I needed from a desk drawer near her.

    I overheard her saying she was an Italian exchange student. So immediately I knew I had to approach, because in those cultures, they have clearly defined gender roles - which means men always approach women. After a while, I plucked up the courage and asked her a few questions like "what's your name, are you on a foreign exchange etc." She was pleasant, but more out of politeness, rather than a sense that she actually wanted me to talk to her.

    About half an hour later, I asked her "so, may I ask, do you have a boyfriend?". She said yes. I asked "is he Italian, does he live in Italy?". She said yes. I asked her what she was doing afterwards and she said "going out with a friend". I pretty much ended the conversation there and didn't talk to her again. It was clear she wasn't interested in me.

    So a girl who I thought was giving me decent signals, was actually just being pleasant and friendly, not wanting anything romantic/sexual. I could have tried to flirt, but she didn't come across like she wanted me to. Also her English wasn't great, so there was a language barrier (she asked me to repeat 2 things I asked her, because she didn't understand).


    Now you see why signals need to be a lot stronger than a bit of smiling and eye contact? And in those first few seconds of him talking to you, you've really got to be very open and friendly. Guys will generally not waste their time if your behaviour is obscure or they can't pick up obvious signals. They will instead move onto a different girl. Life is too short to chase a girl who is messing you around.
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    (Original post by Axiomasher)
    Firstly, I am not persuaded that you know how old he is. Secondly, I wouldn't be surprised about 10-year-olds using internet porn if they can get erections. Maybe I was a freak but I was already getting erections as a 10-year-old, I'm guessing you weren't (assuming you are more than 10, which I admit is an assumption).
    Well, judging by the photograph, I know for a fact that he's no older than 12, and, at that age, his parents—if they're responsible parents—would most likely have some sort of control over his internet access. I'm sorry to hear that such an idea is alien to you, though.
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    It's literally only men in the UK that want women to start doing the approaching, it's so odd to me.
    It really, really isn't, but w/e.
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    (Original post by snowman77)
    You don't need hints. Just go in with the view that most guys will **** anything and you will be ok. :awesome: In that regard, you've always got the upper hand as a female.


    This is what happened to me this morning (with regards to approaching girls + them giving signals):

    This morning, there was a new girl at the place I work part time. She was staring at me a reasonable amount (we locked eyes for a good 2-3 seconds a few times). She smiled at me when I went to get something I needed from a desk drawer near her.

    I overheard her saying she was an Italian exchange student. So immediately I knew I had to approach, because in those cultures, they have clearly defined gender roles - which means men always approach women. After a while, I plucked up the courage and asked her a few questions like "what's your name, are you on a foreign exchange etc." She was pleasant, but more out of politeness, rather than a sense that she actually wanted me to talk to her.

    About half an hour later, I asked her "so, may I ask, do you have a boyfriend?". She said yes. I asked "is he Italian, does he live in Italy?". She said yes. I asked her what she was doing afterwards and she said "going out with a friend". I pretty much ended the conversation there and didn't talk to her again. It was clear she wasn't interested in me.

    So a girl who I thought was giving me decent signals, was actually just being pleasant and friendly, not wanting anything romantic/sexual. I could have tried to flirt, but she didn't come across like she wanted me to. Also her English wasn't great, so there was a language barrier (she asked me to repeat 2 things I asked her, because she didn't understand).


    Now you see why signals need to be a lot stronger than a bit of smiling and eye contact? And in those first few seconds of him talking to you, you've really got to be very open and friendly. Guys will generally not waste their time if your behaviour is obscure or they can't pick up obvious signals. They will instead move onto a different girl. Life is too short to chase a girl who is messing you around.
    Your first sentence alone is why I really won't bother. Not every girl looking that is approaching is looking to get laid.
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    It really, really isn't, but w/e.
    Yes it really, really is. I know if I was in America I wouldn't have this problem.
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    Yes it really, really is. I know if I was in America I wouldn't have this problem.
    Yes, because the entire world consists of America :rolleyes:

    There's what, 200ish sovereign states in the world, containing in total 20 times the population of America combined, and you make a judgement on all of them based on that alone?

    Not to mention how diverse America and the people contained within are. Just because you can go to a bar and have a guy approach you, that's no basis for assuming half the guys in that bar wouldn't be more than happy if maybe you approached them.
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    Your first sentence alone is why I really won't bother. Not every girl looking that is approaching is looking to get laid.


    Yes it really, really is. I know if I was in America I wouldn't have this problem.
    It was more of a tongue in cheek comment, you didn't need to take it literally. :lol: The point I was making is that guys won't act stuck-up, arrogant or *****y. They will be a lot more welcoming than the majority of girls.

    No acknowledgement to the rest of my post? It took me a while to write that.


    edit: you cant write the b word anymore? wow, political correctness really has gone mad.
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    (Original post by snowman77)
    It was more of a tongue in cheek comment, you didn't need to take it literally. :lol: The point I was making is that guys won't act stuck-up, arrogant or *****y. They will be a lot more welcoming than the majority of girls.

    No acknowledgement to the rest of my post? It took me a while to write that.


    edit: you cant write the b word anymore? wow, political correctness really has gone mad.
    LOL, oh well. The point is that still, most guys would think you want to get laid.

    I don't know what you want me to say to the rest? You did try and shoot your shot but I guess it didn't turn out how you wanted it to
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    (Original post by cat_mac)
    What exactly was your point though? Were you just making a statement that men aren’t offended at comments about their sex life? Upon reflection, I think maybe we were both answering questions that weren’t asked.
    Not gonna lie. I can't remember my point and can't be bothered to read back through the conversation.

    I will say though that, in general, when men get told they are sleeping around, the men don't take great offence to it. Whereas a woman, in general, will be highly offended at being thought of like that.

    I'm not talking about light hearted comments here either. I mean when it is said seriously.

    When I was a younger guy and I got told I'm a slut, I would probably be quite happy about it. A female would feel disgusted. It's just the different mindset of genders. As a man now if someone accused me of being easy I still wouldn't be offended, though my wife might not be too impressed.
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    (Original post by EpicBrum)
    Not gonna lie. I can't remember my point and can't be bothered to read back through the conversation.

    I will say though that, in general, when men get told they are sleeping around, the men don't take great offence to it. Whereas a woman, in general, will be highly offended at being thought of like that.

    I'm not talking about light hearted comments here either. I mean when it is said seriously.

    When I was a younger guy and I got told I'm a slut, I would probably be quite happy about it. A female would feel disgusted. It's just the different mindset of genders. As a man now if someone accused me of being easy I still wouldn't be offended, though my wife might not be too impressed.
    It looks like we agree!

    It is very much an internal problem and pressure of what other women think of you. I had a lot of guy friends in high school and it was always girls being vicious and wrongly calling me a slut which got to me at that age. Now I doubt it’d bother me, but I do feel for girls that get a bad rep for sleeping around whether it’s true or not. Like you said, it’s the different mind set.
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    (Original post by cherryred90s)
    This is a really interesting point. I think that the abortion laws should keep up with the advancement of science. Its a damn shame that doctors aren’t willing to intervene to save a baby born before 24weeks
    We could do one better and get rid of the limit in its entirety.
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    (Original post by loveleest)
    LOL, oh well. The point is that still, most guys would think you want to get laid.

    I don't know what you want me to say to the rest? You did try and shoot your shot but I guess it didn't turn out how you wanted it to
    Shoot my shot? That sounds pretty wrong! :lol:

    You've complained about UK men a lot in this thread. You could move to a different country?
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    (Original post by snowman77)
    Shoot my shot? That sounds pretty wrong! :lol:

    You've complained about UK men a lot in this thread. You could move to a different country?
    By the sounds of things I doubt any of them would like her enough to approach her there either
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    (Original post by Less(e/o)n)
    Well, judging by the photograph, I know for a fact that he's no older than 12, and, at that age, his parents—if they're responsible parents—would most likely have some sort of control over his internet access. I'm sorry to hear that such an idea is alien to you, though.
    Do you even know what an internet 'meme' is?
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    (Original post by snowman77)
    Shoot my shot? That sounds pretty wrong! :lol:

    You've complained about UK men a lot in this thread. You could move to a different country?
    Absolutely. I've been thinking about different countries to apply for for my grad.
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    By the sounds of things I doubt any of them would like her enough to approach her there either
    Nice to know!
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    (Original post by Conceited)
    We could do one better and get rid of the limit in its entirety.
    Let’s not be hasty now
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    (Original post by Dheorl)
    By the sounds of things I doubt any of them would like her enough to approach her there either
    Probably not. She comes across as so entitled, yet has "zero experience at dating" (her own words).

    (Original post by loveleest)
    Absolutely. I've been thinking about different countries to apply for for my grad.


    Nice to know!
    I hope you're not going to a different country just for the men. :lol:

    Also I hope you have a plan with what you want to do with your grad (I take it that means post grad?). Employers don't really care about education beyond undergrad, unless you can show you've got a clear path you want to go down (rather than just doing it for the sake of gaining extra qualifications).
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    (Original post by snowman77)
    Probably not. She comes across as so entitled, yet has "zero experience at dating" (her own words).

    I hope you're not going to a different country just for the men. :lol:

    Also I hope you have a plan with what you want to do with your grad (I take it that means post grad?). Employers don't really care about education beyond undergrad, unless you can show you've got a clear path you want to go down (rather than just doing it for the sake of gaining extra qualifications).
    Not at all lol. It would be a good option career wise. But overall, I am unhappy living in the UK. Despite it being better to live than most places.
 
 
 
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