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    Hi everyone, I have recently left one of the top 10 accountancy firms due to the exams failure. Now I’m told by ICAEW that I cannot continue with my ACA training unless I find a new training agreement. I have been struggling with my personal life very much in the last year, I talked to my manager if I could have more time to prepare the exams, was told that I could take the time out of my holiday to do it, which was two days before the exam. I failed it. The second one I failed was at the back of passing the resit as I did not want to fail an exam twice. Thus I had a formal meeting with HR. The outcome was dismissal. I was so devastated because I worked very hard for to get the job and to do the job. I received very positive feedback from colleagues. A few days later, I received a phone call from HR offering me the job back as they made a mistake but I refused. I was ignored for a few days before the formal meeting. But now I feel like my life’s gone. I don’t know what to do next. I applied for a few more grad jobs and was asked the reasons why I left the company. I was honest about it but my applications were rejected. I feel my life is on the brink of college. Can someone give me some advice?
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    (Original post by pmxyyc1)
    Hi everyone, I have recently left one of the top 10 accountancy firms due to the exams failure. Now I’m told by ICAEW that I cannot continue with my ACA training unless I find a new training agreement. I have been struggling with my personal life very much in the last year, I talked to my manager if I could have more time to prepare the exams, was told that I could take the time out of my holiday to do it, which was two days before the exam. I failed it. The second one I failed was at the back of passing the resit as I did not want to fail an exam twice. Thus I had a formal meeting with HR. The outcome was dismissal. I was so devastated because I worked very hard for to get the job and to do the job. I received very positive feedback from colleagues. A few days later, I received a phone call from HR offering me the job back as they made a mistake but I refused. I was ignored for a few days before the formal meeting. But now I feel like my life’s gone. I don’t know what to do next. I applied for a few more grad jobs and was asked the reasons why I left the company. I was honest about it but my applications were rejected. I feel my life is on the brink of college. Can someone give me some advice?
    Tough one - how long did you work for the firm?

    Have you considered ACCA training which is way more flexible a route to take? If you've had a rough patch taking a years contract somewhere can be a good way to get back into work.
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    Hey,

    I was at Deloitte and i failed the accounting certificate level exam twice. I didn't know top 10 firms also had a two rule policy? Could you tell me what firm you were at so I could stay clear? You can sit exams by yourself, however you need 3 years of work experience to be ACA qualified. I'm going to do as many exams as I can and then reapply for ACA trainee roles. Good luck just inbox me if you need any advice or support.
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    (Original post by 510180)
    Hey,

    I was at Deloitte and i failed the accounting certificate level exam twice. I didn't know top 10 firms also had a two rule policy? Could you tell me what firm you were at so I could stay clear? You can sit exams by yourself, however you need 3 years of work experience to be ACA qualified. I'm going to do as many exams as I can and then reapply for ACA trainee roles. Good luck just inbox me if you need any advice or support.
    Thank you your kindness. I worked for Grant Thornton. I was told by ICAEW that I needed to find a new training agreement. I tried to call ACA helpline never got through to anyone.
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    Hi I have also just failed my tax certificate level exam for the second time. Luckily enough I work in industry and can resit as many times as icaew allow and will not be dismissed from my job.However due to the company not offering good study support or career progression I have been applying to jobs in the top 20 accounting firms. I have been asked to come for a second interview for a top 15 firm whereby the partner wishes to know more about my exams. I also had to resit my management information and accounting exam and passed on second attempt. My company doesn't offer college and we instead have to learn through the textbook and Kaplan notes only with no tutor. I don't know if anyone can help but I really want this job, does anyone have any advice on what I can say in the interview when asked why I failed my exams and especially why I failed tax twice?
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    (Original post by Mxhln10)
    Hi I have also just failed my tax certificate level exam for the second time. Luckily enough I work in industry and can resit as many times as icaew allow and will not be dismissed from my job.However due to the company not offering good study support or career progression I have been applying to jobs in the top 20 accounting firms. I have been asked to come for a second interview for a top 15 firm whereby the partner wishes to know more about my exams. I also had to resit my management information and accounting exam and passed on second attempt. My company doesn't offer college and we instead have to learn through the textbook and Kaplan notes only with no tutor. I don't know if anyone can help but I really want this job, does anyone have any advice on what I can say in the interview when asked why I failed my exams and especially why I failed tax twice?
    Why not explain that you've been doing home study with no time off or access to tutors and marked mock exams? Thats pretty credible - you can stress how keen you are to work for an employer who can support you through professional qualifications.

    Most people who have done Chartered exams would know that it would be very hard to pass without the proper training courses.
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    (Original post by ajj2000)
    Why not explain that you've been doing home study with no time off or access to tutors and marked mock exams? Thats pretty credible - you can stress how keen you are to work for an employer who can support you through professional qualifications.

    Most people who have done Chartered exams would know that it would be very hard to pass without the proper training courses.
    Thanks. Do you think it is credible enough to say that due to lack of study support I have genuinely struggled with passing exams and with the right level of support I am confident I have the ability to pass?

    With no college it is really hard to pass these exams and I don't think anyone should be doing these courses with only online material.
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    (Original post by Mxhln10)
    Thanks. Do you think it is credible enough to say that due to lack of study support I have genuinely struggled with passing exams and with the right level of support I am confident I have the ability to pass?

    With no college it is really hard to pass these exams and I don't think anyone should be doing these courses with only online material.
    Who are you meeting for your interviews and how much time off were you allowed for study?

    My view would be that any of us who studied Chartered exams would think you were at a huge disadvantage not going to a quality college course. You are competing against smart, academically able peers who have mainly been on good courses, and had lots of exam technique advice, marked questions, times conditions etc. People who have done the exams will understand.
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    (Original post by ajj2000)
    Who are you meeting for your interviews and how much time off were you allowed for study?

    My view would be that any of us who studied Chartered exams would think you were at a huge disadvantage not going to a quality college course. You are competing against smart, academically able peers who have mainly been on good courses, and had lots of exam technique advice, marked questions, times conditions etc. People who have done the exams will understand.
    Interview is with an associate partner with a top 15 chartered accountancy practise.
    We are given 1 day before the exam and 1 day for the exam itself but nothing beyond that ie. No extra days for study or time to attend classes.
    One major thing I have missed out on is exam technique, I have always gone into exams not knowing what exam technique I need to use to gain the easy marks.
    I know my friends who are doing ACA get plenty of time to go college and also get extra days to study from home.
    Studying off a textbook/question bank along with a folder of notes from kaplan has been tough. As with mock exams, kaplan online has mock exams which we can do but there's no feedback available.
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    (Original post by Mxhln10)
    Interview is with an associate partner with a top 15 chartered accountancy practise.
    We are given 1 day before the exam and 1 day for the exam itself but nothing beyond that ie. No extra days for study or time to attend classes.
    One major thing I have missed out on is exam technique, I have always gone into exams not knowing what exam technique I need to use to gain the easy marks.
    I know my friends who are doing ACA get plenty of time to go college and also get extra days to study from home.
    Studying off a textbook/question bank along with a folder of notes from kaplan has been tough. As with mock exams, kaplan online has mock exams which we can do but there's no feedback available.
    Thats fine. Do you know what the study package is with the firm you are applying to? If not it would be worth finding out if possible.

    Look, 2 days study leave and home study is really, really tough for ACA. Pretty common for ACCA but not ACA.

    Perhaps you need to say that you are looking for an employer who can support your development. You want to pursue ACA and work in the profession as you are interested, and believe that you have the potential (provide some support for this) in the more technical areas of accounting. You are very grateful to your current employer for giving you the chance to make a start in your training.

    Explain that you have been studying and passed papers x x x, but failed such and such. You had one study day for the exam and home study packs - you believe you would be more successful with training college courses and proper advice on study techniques and exam technique.

    My belief is that 9 out of 10 people who have done the exams themselves would see the issue immediately.
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    (Original post by ajj2000)
    Thats fine. Do you know what the study package is with the firm you are applying to? If not it would be worth finding out if possible.

    Look, 2 days study leave and home study is really, really tough for ACA. Pretty common for ACCA but not ACA.

    Perhaps you need to say that you are looking for an employer who can support your development. You want to pursue ACA and work in the profession as you are interested, and believe that you have the potential (provide some support for this) in the more technical areas of accounting. You are very grateful to your current employer for giving you the chance to make a start in your training.

    Explain that you have been studying and passed papers x x x, but failed such and such. You had one study day for the exam and home study packs - you believe you would be more successful with training college courses and proper advice on study techniques and exam technique.

    My belief is that 9 out of 10 people who have done the exams themselves would see the issue immediately.
    From interview I remember them saying for certificate level all their grads went to college for a couple of days and same would be for professional level.

    Compared to others who get around 8-10weeks off in the year to attend classes and do home study I have only received 6 days for actual studying not including day for the exam.

    The exams I failed I managed to pass With the second attempt but I hope they can overlook 2 fails for principles of tax as this module was complete self learning and no sort of lectures or tutors. But I am not sure what exam policy the mid tier companies hold.
    Thanks I think that is very good advice.
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    (Original post by Mxhln10)
    From interview I remember them saying for certificate level all their grads went to college for a couple of days and same would be for professional level.

    Compared to others who get around 8-10weeks off in the year to attend classes and do home study I have only received 6 days for actual studying not including day for the exam.

    The exams I failed I managed to pass With the second attempt but I hope they can overlook 2 fails for principles of tax as this module was complete self learning and no sort of lectures or tutors. But I am not sure what exam policy the mid tier companies hold.
    Thanks I think that is very good advice.
    Are there any recruitment agents who specialise in PQ recruitment for the profession? If there still are such specialists they can be a really good source of information. You might also be eligible for grad entry schemes with firms which might be a good route.
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    Aww
    You should have joined back Deloitte when they gave you a second chance and then discussed about which contributed into your failure in exams.
    Instead if they can give you 3-4 days study leaves before exams.

    I'll be starting the ACA course soon as well, haven't secured a training agreement though yet.
 
 
 
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