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Precarious capitalism kills again

"A courier for the parcel giant DPD who was fined for attending a medical appointment to treat his diabetes collapsed and died of the disease, it has emerged. Don Lane, 53, from Christchurch in Dorset, missed appointments with specialists because he felt under pressure to cover his round and faced DPD’s £150 daily penalties if he did not find cover, his widow has told the Guardian."

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/05/courier-who-was-fined-for-day-off-to-see-doctor-dies-from-diabetes

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Reply 1
Capitalism didn't kill him, his complete mismanagement of his diabetes killed him.
Original post by DecagonX
Capitalism didn't kill him, his complete mismanagement of his diabetes killed him.


Due to the pressures inflicting by a coercive economy.
Reply 3
Original post by ChaoticButterfly
Due to the pressures inflicting by a coercive economy.


He could have taken another job if he was unhappy with his terms. There are plenty of other better courier firms and with his 19 years of experience he wouldn't have struggled.

He made the choice and suffered the consequence, it is wholly unfortunate.
its a whole lot better than communism who would work people in gulags untile the died
Reply 5
Original post by charlie_boyos
its a whole lot better than communism who would work people in gulags untile the died


Remind me where in communism it stated the use of the GULAG system? I dont recall seeing any treatise on it.
You know what I did when I had a crappy employer that didn't give me the flexibility to schedule time off? I quit. But for some reason this poor guy stuck with them for 19 years.

This has nothing to do with capitalism killing anybody.
Original post by Napp
Remind me where in communism it stated the use of the GULAG system? I dont recall seeing any treatise on it.


WELL THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY GOING TO GO public with it are they
Reply 8
Original post by charlie_boyos
WELL THEY ARE NOT EXACTLY GOING TO GO public with it are they


My point was more you're foolish for thinking the Russian labour camps have anything to do with Communism. Especially as in various forms they have existed in Russia for centuries.
communism doesn't work because
1.people like to own thing such as you parent who own a house and a car imagine if the state come one day and took that all away and gave it to a homeless family of five and said you could have one room
2.capitalism is the only system to over produce whilst communism never produces enough
3.all systems are corrupt and cause people to die capitalism is the least corrupt
4.just cause you got some meds free on the nhs does not mean that is Communism
5. it has never actually worked
It’s a bit far fetched to say capatilism killed him.
Can they really just fine a chronically ill man for needing to go to the doctor? How on earth can these grievous exactions be legal? If this government had an ounce of decency it would put an immediate end to these deplorable practices and bogus 'self-employment' contracts.
what a *****y company. i am surprised Mrs May has not commented; she has been a lifelong diabetic.
Original post by the bear
what a *****y company. i am surprised Mrs May has not commented; she has been a lifelong diabetic.


*beep boop* MayBot does not compute empathy *boop beep*
Original post by Dandaman1
You know what I did when I had a crappy employer that didn't give me the flexibility to schedule time off? I quit. But for some reason this poor guy stuck with them for 19 years.

This has nothing to do with capitalism killing anybody.


Completely and utterly irrelevant. This is a company that actively attempts to dissuade chronically ill workers from seeking treatment. It's pretty clear where the real problem is here.
Original post by Captain Haddock
Completely and utterly irrelevant. This is a company that actively attempts to dissuade chronically ill workers from seeking treatment. It's pretty clear where the real problem is here.


Yeah, the guy that prioritises work over health.
Original post by DecagonX
Yeah, the guy that prioritises work over health.


Not everyone can afford time off. If you have children to feed and bills to pay, some can't afford time off if youre gonna get fined for it. Especially if 150 quid is a lot off your monthly pay.
Original post by Guru Jason
Not everyone can afford time off. If you have children to feed and bills to pay, some can't afford time off if youre gonna get fined for it. Especially if 150 quid is a lot off your monthly pay.


It is quite simple, they are **** employers so change job. Why is that so hard?
Original post by DecagonX
Yeah, the guy that prioritises work over health.


Stop trying to shift the blame. This man was in a situation that simply shouldn't have been possible in the first place. His exact circumstances aren't important - if such practices are legal, it's all but inevitable that things like this will occur at some point. A private company shouldn't be able to fine a sick worker for going to the doctor. End of.
Original post by Captain Haddock
Stop trying to shift the blame. This man was in a situation that simply shouldn't have been possible in the first place. His exact circumstances aren't important - if such practices are legal, it's all but inevitable that things like this will occur at some point. A private company shouldn't be able to fine a sick worker for going to the doctor. End of.


That's the thing, he wasn't being fined for going to the doctors, he was being fined for not finding someone to cover him.

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