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    Looks make for a huge difference in this society....but not in every society i've noticed. Culture plays its part in these kind of things.
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    I’d definitely say looks are what causes initial attraction since to spark a relationship you tend to have to have the physical attraction but as the relationship progresses, personality definitely begins to play a larger part than looks. A 10/10 can easily become a 4/10 if they have a really horrible personality as it makes you repulse them.
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    Looks and compatibility any day of the week...or a year. Even if someone has the best personality in the world, if they aren't in sync with you, welp, you ain't gonna be comfortable around them or even connect with them in any way, except physically

    Looks=Attraction is BS. Since everyone has their preference and all dat, a guy/girl with a 6/10 with a personality that is compatible to your own may grow on you and later, their attraction level may rise up to 9+/10.

    Source: Experience.
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    with less than average looks it is difficult to even attract anyone
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    Looks matter whey you are seeking to find a relationship. Once you have that relationship, keeping the relationship alive relies mostly on other things.
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    (Original post by claireogun)
    Should it be personality over looks or should looks be the main part? my friends always say "you won't be walking down the street with their personality though" . I personally think it should be personality with looks as only a small part of it ......
    YES. anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves. Looks is needed to create initial interest in someone. When you see someone for the first time you fancy in public you don't tell yourself "Oh my god! He/She has a sexy personality I'm so turned on".

    However I think personality is needed for a long term relationship because at the end of the day both people in the relationship lose their looks. And soon you'll be looking like William Defoe. If the person your with doesn't make you laugh or they dont make your life more exciting, but you're just with them because they look like the cover of a H
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    Jeremy Kyle show puts paid to much of this theorising.
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    I fell for someone who was really hot And a model and he seemed to like me to...then I got to know his personality and now we’re more bffs than together because he’s got a personality I can’t handle despite being the most patient human ever. I mean he’s gorgeous but that doesn’t factor into it anymore...
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    Idm about the injury thing cos at the end of the day if I mate with a good looking guy his genes are gonna get passed down not his injuries lol
    HAHAHAHAHA!!! Wtf you're crazy!
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    (Original post by Anonymous)
    if you look for their looks then you will need to judge yourself. personality is more important after all you r not looking at their face all the time. there is no point in dating a good looking person with the worst personality. that's just pointless. u will get no where if u look at their looks all the time. i would say its 50:50 all the time. if looks matter then would u divorce your future husband or wife if their face changed for whatever reason like an accident or something?? think realistically pls.
    Yeah i hear this a lot but u really have to be either a straight up dumbass or a straight up sociopath or ******* to not have a good personality if you're in love with your partner i mean seriously!!!

    it's easy to have a good personality since it's something u can develope over time, but if u look ugly af u are fcked, u've pretty much got no chance in this society (unless you're rich or famous), it's not right but it is the truth.

    Also yes that's the point u are gonna look at his face all the time, if he looks like a (i'm sorry to use this) a freak u may still have feelings for him but fck come on be realistic!!! u're not gonna fck him, or kiss him and eventually u will dump his ugly ass.

    It's not the way it should be but it's our reality.
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    (Original post by The Night King)
    Is the sky blue? Is my dig bick?
    Well one of those is wrong
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    looks are the only thing that can attract a female. if you look bad, she will think your personality is bad too.
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    (Original post by Perksy121)
    There’s a difference between the Pick Up Artistry that Strauss writes about and the basic fundamentals of meeting new people in public places. You’re missing out the games they teach, the stories they learn, the fact that they recruit new members by telling them they’ll be able to sleep with a super model a week for the rest of their lives. “The Game” is a dark book, it starts great but most of the main characters just slowly spiral into a pit of lonely despair, Strauss himself remains fairly conflicted and funnily enough, the girl he ended up with at the end of the book did not stick around!

    Nothing in your list is really pick up artistry, most of it is just being a decent human being.

    Also, geese are vicious man! I probably wouldn’t say boo to one!
    You haven't answered any of the 6 questions thar I asked you.

    Everything in my list is covered in the Neil Strauss books. And yes, becoming better at The Game is synonymous with becoming a better human being.
    With any philosophy and set of skills the intelligent person will use the good bits and be wary of the pitfalls, such as becoming too averse to long term relationships. IE not switching from plenty of fish to oneitis mode when appropriate.

    I have never seen anyone claim that gaming techniques will get you a supermodel per week. Anyone claiming that is miss-selling.
    Condemning Gaming on the basis of miss-selling is like condemning bank loans on the back of the PPI miss-selling.

    I didn't find The Game dark at all. I found it interesting, eye-opening, funny, helpful, positive. However, if you found it dark, that's not something I'd argue with, as that is your own subjective opinion of the book and just goes to show that 2 people can read the same thing and get completely different impressions from it.
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    (Original post by Dunnig Kruger)
    You haven't answered any of the 6 questions thar I asked you.

    Everything in my list is covered in the Neil Strauss books. And yes, becoming better at The Game is synonymous with becoming a better human being.
    With any philosophy and set of skills the intelligent person will use the good bits and be wary of the pitfalls, such as becoming too averse to long term relationships. IE not switching from plenty of fish to oneitis mode when appropriate.

    I have never seen anyone claim that gaming techniques will get you a supermodel per week. Anyone claiming that is miss-selling.
    Condemning Gaming on the basis of miss-selling is like condemning bank loans on the back of the PPI miss-selling.

    I didn't find The Game dark at all. I found it interesting, eye-opening, funny, helpful, positive. However, if you found it dark, that's not something I'd argue with, as that is your own subjective opinion of the book and just goes to show that 2 people can read the same thing and get completely different impressions from it.


    I only count 5 questions, but it’s super early in the morning where I am so maybe I’m just having trouble counting!

    I think you know I don’t think any of your points are BS and I won’t deny that they are all mentioned in “The Game”, but that doesn’t make it Pick Up Artistry. If I advise my friend in a bar to go and start a conversation with a girl using an open ended question, that’s because I’ve learned that that’s the most effective way to start a conversation with ANYONE, not because I’m a Pick Up Artist. If I tell that same friend to treat the girl as a human being and not put her in a pedestal, that’s because that’s how you should treat people, end of. If I tell him not to use a creepy sexist pick up line, that’s because that would just be a really douchey thing to do. I think you see where I’m going with this. My point is that the points you credit to “The Game” are things that you, me, and most other people will eventually learn through continued exposure to a social environment. Your Plenty of Fish mentality is nothing new, it’s just a way of coping with rejection, you could say something similar to someone applying for jobs. It seems to be the “pitfalls” that you’re missing out are the parts that actually make it into “The Game”, I mean the fact that it’s referred to as a Game should be a hint, it’s result oriented. Women are targets and PUA techniques are supposed to be “rejection proof”. I seem to remember there’s a part of that book where one of Strauss’s followers supposedly picks up Paris Hilton, he does it by telling her some BS story about a box in a desert designed to push certain buttons and initiate a certain reaction, nothing to do with her feelings for the person telling it.

    I’m not a life long hater of PUA, I read the book when I was a teenager and became interested, I joined a forum and because my social email address hasn’t changed in 10 years I still get emails from them. The emails are mostly of the theme that 4/10s can sleep with a **** tonne of 9/10s using PUA techniques, they give me stats of how many people these guys sleep with a year and tell me I could be like that too. The mails are supposedly signed off by Nick Savoy who is mentioned by Strauss in his book. Whether it works or not is not the point, it’s more that it shows what the objective of Pick Up Artistry is, there’s nothing about relationships in there, it’s all about how to get a girl to sleep with you.

    Yeah once upon a time I would have agreed with you, Strauss is a journalist by trade and wouldn’t be where he is if he couldn’t write. But looking back I do think it got dark, the leader of their chapter had a break down and got addicted to lesbian porn, one of their younger members was so detatched from the women he slept with he couldn’t actually finish during sex, and Strauss himself ended up in bed with a virgin and had his “wtf am I doing?” moment. But as you say, it’s subjective and I will grant you the same courtesy you have granted me when it comes to interpretation.

    Look, I’m all for boosting people’s confidence and the basic principles of approaching and talking to women are sound. But actual Pick Up Artistry is different and it’s really not a healthy lifestyle to lead in my opinion and certainly doesn’t seem to be about loving and respecting women. In fact it seems to be quite the opposite.
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    (Original post by cman123)
    Okay now be honest if he ended up looking like this:https://i.ytimg.com/vi/l_S4BdzuELQ/hqdefault.jpg

    would you still stay with him for long??

    lol that image is computer generated. If he was in some awful accident then I would like to think I would stay with him
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    I couldn't be with someone gorgeous who had a shite personality but likewise I couldn't be with someone who I wasn't sexually attracted to even if they had a brilliant personality. Both are equally important to me. Why settle?
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    To me , personality plays a big part in a relationship. But also I would say looks do too. Looks don’t play a massive part though , my past relationships haven’t gone to plan as I chose them purely because of good looks and not personality.
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    50 50. If your personality is ****, and you are peng ash. idc i'm not going out with you. You just have to be decent.
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    (Original post by Precious Illusions)
    Why settle?
    To avoid deing alone?

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