M467 - Male suicide prevention motion

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M467 - Male suicide prevention motion, Joecphillips seconded by TCFactor

This house calls upon the government to further expand a the campaign set up by former SoS for health MattElves to focus on the prevention of male suicide.

While the overall suicide numbers for both sexes are currently on a downward path men still make up more than 75% of suicide victims and we have to tackle this problem.
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Joe, you've forgotten how it works. All the relevant SoS has to do is say that due to the action mentioned in the motion suicides that have not been sanctioned by the state are almost completely eliminated and the gender gap is gone and thus this motion requires no action.
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IIRC (could be wrong), the reason why male suicide rates are higher is the same as why suicide rates are higher among doctors: a higher success rate on suicide attempts. I don't see why we should be focusing this on men.
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Moreover - and I'm writing this in a separate post because TSR's ridiculous rules mean it's somewhat likely that this will be deleted - suicide can be a rational thing. Suicide rates being high is a reflection on a general state of misery which needs to be dealt with by improving people's lives, not by deterring them from suicide where it is in their best interests.
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(Original post by Jammy Duel)
Joe, you've forgotten how it works. All the relevant SoS has to do is say that due to the action mentioned in the motion suicides that have not been sanctioned by the state are almost completely eliminated and the gender gap is gone and thus this motion requires no action.
That would be false as Euthanasia was only sanctioned under specific circumstances. You can't just go and decide to get euthanised.

TDA does raise a good point (in his first comment), but I don't see that as a reason to oppose this motion - I will just be urging the SoS to expand this campaign to include women too
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That would be false as Euthanasia was only sanctioned under specific circumstances. You can't just go and decide to get euthanised.

TDA does raise a good point (in his first comment), but I don't see that as a reason to oppose this motion - I will just be urging the SoS to expand this campaign to include women too
It is still suicide sanctioned by the state.
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Biggest killer of men under 35.:sad:

Something ought to be done, just not sure what.:erm:
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This will probably be my rl MUN exp. kicking in, but how will this actually help prevent male suicide. I fully support the sentiment behind the motion, Im just unclear on the practicalities
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(Original post by TheDefiniteArticle)
IIRC (could be wrong), the reason why male suicide rates are higher is the same as why suicide rates are higher among doctors: a higher success rate on suicide attempts. I don't see why we should be focusing this on men.
This is true. Essentially males are more 'successful' at committing suicide. I believe it is male farmers who are at highest risk due to their lonely occupation and dangerous equipment or tools at their disposal. Females on the other hand tend to use means that allow a period of time in which the method can be reversed, or are less dangerous.
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Division!

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