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    The pm is due to meet Japanese investors tomorrow. How will the meeting go?

    Pm: welcome
    Japanese investors: we will be leaving the U.K. and taking lots of jobs away
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    Japanese investor: "Hello May. We would like to invest lots of money into the UK and so that we can use your country to sell in to Europe."
    May: "Ummmmmmm. Computer says nooooooo."
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    Lots to invest in.

    We will soon rid ourselves of the eu millstone and will be able to trade more freely.

    We are the centre of excellence for finance and for new technologies and materials such as graphene.

    I could go on....
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    (Original post by richard10012)
    The pm is due to meet Japanese investors tomorrow. How will the meeting go?

    Pm: welcome
    Japanese investors: we will be leaving the U.K. and taking lots of jobs away
    Its a shame your so unpatriotic and wish to talk down the UK.

    There's no reason to think trade ties won't improve.
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    This should be a chance to make stronger links with Japan. Without the commitment to the EU, we are on a good position to make new more prosperous deals, and Japan in general will see that as a chance for new deals. I highly doubt any Japanese investor will want to pull out...
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    What an absolute Farce?
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Its a shame your so unpatriotic and wish to talk down the UK.

    There's no reason to think trade ties won't improve.
    Patriotism won't create jobs.
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Its a shame your so unpatriotic and wish to talk down the UK.

    There's no reason to think trade ties won't improve.
    I agree. There will be current investors who use the uk as a platform for their eu trading that won’t be too happy but there will be a free trade opportunity for them to help in other ways or other new investors because of that new opportunity
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    (Original post by paul514)
    I agree. There will be current investors who use the uk as a platform for their eu trading that won’t be too happy but there will be a free trade opportunity for them to help in other ways or other new investors because of that new opportunity
    Or they can invest in EU based companies where they can get access to both the Eu market and the rest of the world.

    They could look at investing in the UK once the trade deals have been negotiated but that could take years. The govt will have to do some drastic things like give investors guarantees that for example, the car industry will be protected and tax incentives that will have to be paid for by other taxpayers.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    Or they can invest in EU based companies where they can get access to both the Eu market and the rest of the world.

    They could look at investing in the UK once the trade deals have been negotiated but that could take years. The govt will have to do some drastic things like give investors guarantees that for example, the car industry will be protected and tax incentives that will have to be paid for by other taxpayers.
    They can trade with the rest of the world from japan 😂

    This is about their UK market as a country, their eu market as individual companies and their exports for Japanese manufacturers based in the uk, like Nissan which has already had a meeting and is sorted.

    Plus a trade deal is going to be easily sorted for goods and it’s already on offer from them, it’s the services deal they will barter over
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    (Original post by Maker)
    Or they can invest in EU based companies where they can get access to both the Eu market and the rest of the world.

    They could look at investing in the UK once the trade deals have been negotiated but that could take years. The govt will have to do some drastic things like give investors guarantees that for example, the car industry will be protected and tax incentives that will have to be paid for by other taxpayers.
    We don't need govt trade deals to trade.
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    (Original post by Maker)
    Patriotism won't create jobs.
    Your assuming that many jobs will be destroyed. Employment growth will certainly slow and probably reverse for a while but we are not looking at the 1980's, employment growth will resume and i imagine in a decade unemployment will be as low if not lower than now.

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    They can trade with the rest of the world from japan 😂

    This is about their UK market as a country, their eu market as individual companies and their exports for Japanese manufacturers based in the uk, like Nissan which has already had a meeting and is sorted.

    Plus a trade deal is going to be easily sorted for goods and it’s already on offer from them, it’s the services deal they will barter over
    Japan will likely be quite bullish about services, it's quite a big for them as well as us.

    That said, we should reject any deal which includes goods but not services be that the EU or Japan.
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    (Original post by Kenneth56)
    We don't need govt trade deals to trade.
    Thats true for small stuff, I can buy head phones from China off ebay and get it shipped no problem.

    Problems start if I want to export a load of stuff to China like beef and the Chinese say its got mad cow disease and won't let it into the country, what do you do then?
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    (Original post by paul514)
    They can trade with the rest of the world from japan 😂

    This is about their UK market as a country, their eu market as individual companies and their exports for Japanese manufacturers based in the uk, like Nissan which has already had a meeting and is sorted.

    Plus a trade deal is going to be easily sorted for goods and it’s already on offer from them, it’s the services deal they will barter over
    People saying trade deals are easily sorted have drunk the brexit cool aid, even the most straight forward trade deals take years and cost millions.

    Britain will have to replace dozens of trade deals after brexit and they will all take years. What are firms going to do in the mean time while it gets sorted out?
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    (Original post by Rakas21)
    Japan will likely be quite bullish about services, it's quite a big for them as well as us.

    That said, we should reject any deal which includes goods but not services be that the EU or Japan.
    I was talking about the eu, reading it back that wasn’t clear
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    (Original post by Maker)
    People saying trade deals are easily sorted have drunk the brexit cool aid, even the most straight forward trade deals take years and cost millions.

    Britain will have to replace dozens of trade deals after brexit and they will all take years. What are firms going to do in the mean time while it gets sorted out?
    We can negotiate them now.... it’s three years before we leave.

    We can also do interim deals too

    We can also do particular deals very quickly and some of those have no deal with the eu.

    The fact is your a defeatist who is really disappointed with a vote to leave.

    Nothing I or anyone else says will change your mind so you will just have to see the results over the next decade.
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    (Original post by paul514)
    We can negotiate them now.... it’s three years before we leave.

    We can also do interim deals too

    We can also do particular deals very quickly and some of those have no deal with the eu.

    The fact is your a defeatist who is really disappointed with a vote to leave.

    Nothing I or anyone else says will change your mind so you will just have to see the results over the next decade.
    There are good deals and quick deals but no quick good deals. The Chinese where May went last week are notorious for taking their time with negotiations.

    Most countries want to wait until Britain and the EU have done a deal before they do theirs so that could be 5 years after Brexit and then the negotiating starts.

    Brexits love to say their opponents are defeatist when they are delusional. Why don't you find out the average time it takes to do a trade deal between 2 countries like Britain?
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    (Original post by Maker)
    There are good deals and quick deals but no quick good deals. The Chinese where May went last week are notorious for taking their time with negotiations.

    Most countries want to wait until Britain and the EU have done a deal before they do theirs so that could be 5 years after Brexit and then the negotiating starts.

    Brexits love to say their opponents are defeatist when they are delusional. Why don't you find out the average time it takes to do a trade deal between 2 countries like Britain?
    China and India who be quick but countries like Australia and New Zealand for example can be.

    Others may sign replicated deals we currently have with eu trade deals with that country either permanently or for a time limited period.

    Your thinking is so rigid vs the creative solutions that can be found
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    (Original post by Maker)
    Thats true for small stuff, I can buy head phones from China off ebay and get it shipped no problem.

    Problems start if I want to export a load of stuff to China like beef and the Chinese say its got mad cow disease and won't let it into the country, what do you do then?
    I think tariffs tend to be by product, not size of shipment.

    For example, Scotland exports large quantities of whiskey all over the world without the need for trade govt deals
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    (Original post by paul514)
    China and India who be quick but countries like Australia and New Zealand for example can be.

    Others may sign replicated deals we currently have with eu trade deals with that country either permanently or for a time limited period.

    Your thinking is so rigid vs the creative solutions that can be found
    Australia and New Zealand are much much smaller than China and India and trade deals will be insignificant compared to China and India. You seem to think all trade deals are the same.

    Only countries that are stupid would want replicated EU deals, Britain is a much smaller market than the EU so the negotiating power is a lot less. Any deals will be worse than that Britain currently has through the EU.

    What are your creative solutions, are you a trade negotiator?
 
 
 
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