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    https://renewbritain.org/

    1) Pro-EU
    2) Centre-wing (not left/right)
    3)Supported and inspired by President Macron.

    I'm thinking of volunteering/voting for them instead of Labour as I think we need new ideas and both parties are delusional in their extreme formats.

    Corbyn wanting to wrekt the economy by massive borrowing aka. poorer in the long term.

    Conservatives want to deliver brexit no matter if it wrekts the economy and more cuts aka. poorer in the long term.

    Whats the difference?
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    The 2 parties you mentioned are willing to follow what the public voted for this party would screw the electorate to get their own way.

    Like all minor parties this will get 0 seats
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    (Original post by joecphillips)
    The 2 parties you mentioned are willing to follow what the public voted for this party would screw the electorate to get their own way.

    Like all minor parties this will get 0 seats
    How do you know? It can backfire very rapidly.
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    Question, what is it about the EU that you like so much?

    The 3-4 million east-europeans immigrants that have come to this country the past ten years, draining our healthcare services, our schools, our jobs, our education system etc etc etc to the point where everything is on the brink of collapse?

    We are having to fund the free stuff that these nearly four million people are getting with rises in everything from tuition fees to taxes...Is that what you like about the EU?

    These people come here and get an education courtesy of the British tax payer in the best universities in the world in the English language, a language that they can take anywhere in the world and get a job and they get that all for nothing....but If we wanted to go to their countries to study in one of their rubbish universities in a language that no one but they speak we have to pay extortionate amounts of money because we are considered foreign....we have to pay for healthcare in their countries...we have to pay for everything ...whilst they come here and get everything for free. That is the EU....a con where wealthier countries fund failed states in return for nothing but trouble.
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    (Original post by CookieButter)
    Question, what is it about the EU that you like so much?

    The 3-4 million east-europeans immigrants that have come to this country the past ten years, draining our healthcare services, our schools, our jobs, our education system etc etc etc to the point where everything is on the brink of collapse? Us having to fund their free stuff with rises in everything from tuition fees to taxes? They come here and get an education funded by the British tax payer in the best universities in the world in English (a language that they can work with anywhere in the world) and if we wanted to go their countries to study in one of their rubbish universities in a language that no one but they speak we have to pay extortionate amounts of money because we are considered foreign....we have to pay for healthcare in their countries...we have to pay for everything ...whilst they come here and get everything for free. That is the EU....a con where wealthier countries fund failed states in return for nothing.
    This is what depresses me about modern day Britain. Too many people love to blame foreigners for our problems as they wallow in their own self-pity.

    And everything is not on the brink of collapse. So please cut out the shrill hysteria.
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    (Original post by CookieButter)
    Question, what is it about the EU that you like so much?

    The 3-4 million east-europeans immigrants that have come to this country the past ten years, draining our healthcare services, our schools, our jobs, our education system etc etc etc to the point where everything is on the brink of collapse?

    We are having to fund the free stuff that these nearly four million people are getting with rises in everything from tuition fees to taxes...Is that what you like about the EU?

    These people come here and get an education courtesy of the British tax payer in the best universities in the world in he English language, a language that they can take anywhere in the world and get a job and they get that all for nothing....but If we wanted to go to their countries to study in one of their rubbish universities in a language that no one but they speak we have to pay extortionate amounts of money because we are considered foreign....we have to pay for healthcare in their countries...we have to pay for everything ...whilst they come here and get everything for free. That is the EU....a con where wealthier countries fund failed states in return for nothing but trouble.
    1. EU is not collapsing, it boomed in growth last year.
    2. We only had best universities in the world due to being in EU, they have dropped ranking since we left.
    3. Not everything is about UK, we pay about 2% to EU for huge benefits such as higher growth and people will only realise it once we actually leave, we was commanding the EU without being in Euro, Eurozone etc... and we blew it all up with that stupid referendum.
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    They look like a fairly reasonable party, but honestly not all that different from the already established Liberal Democrats. Maybe they could attract a lot of their supporters.

    However, I don't like the second referendum idea. It'll be constant referendums and filibustering until Brexit is abandoned, which is obviously what they want. They need to accept that the vote happened and the UK is leaving. People should be focusing on what to do after Brexit instead of stamping their feet and making the process difficult. The UK needs confidence and unity in its exit from the EU, or else it will leave a weakened and divided country.
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    We haven’t left yet, and our elite unis were elite before we joined the EU. We are hardly commanding the EU are we?
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    (Original post by CookieButter)
    The 3-4 million east-europeans immigrants that have come to this country the past ten years, draining our healthcare services, our schools, our jobs, our education system etc etc etc to the point where everything is on the brink of collapse?
    Last time I looked, unemployment is at 1.44 million. If they all went home tomorrow, we would have 2.5 million unfilled jobs on to of the current 810,000 unfilled job vacancies. We would be screwed.

    EU migrants coming here taking our jobs? Doing our jobs more like. And paying taxes and not using the NHS mainly because they are young and don't get ill unlike our growing elderly population.

    Anti-immigration rhetoric is cheap and paints over the real cracks that exist in our own society. It is much easier to blame faceless immigrants for bringing the NHS to its knees when the reality is that it is yours and my grandparents who are the main culprits.
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    (Original post by Andrew97)
    We haven’t left yet, and our elite unis were elite before we joined the EU. We are hardly commanding the EU are we?
    One year
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