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I know this is a topic that has been discussed to death on TSR but my situation is slightly different.

I am self-fundig the LPC and have the option to do an extra couple of modules to make it an LLM for free. I understand that this is done to make people eligible for pg loans and that employers in the UK don't take this type of LLM seriously.

However I would like to take money out of the equation completely. Let's pretend the LPC and LLM are both completely free. The only difference being that I need to put in a bit more time and effort for the LLM. Is it worth it? Perhaps because it would have more of a standing abroad?
Or could it even be a bad thing if, say, I do really well on the LPC and then not so well on the LLM add-on?

Any thoughts however subjective would be appreciated!
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(Original post by Bas16)
I know this is a topic that has been discussed to death on TSR but my situation is slightly different.

I am self-fundig the LPC and have the option to do an extra couple of modules to make it an LLM for free. I understand that this is done to make people eligible for pg loans and that employers in the UK don't take this type of LLM seriously.

However I would like to take money out of the equation completely. Let's pretend the LPC and LLM are both completely free. The only difference being that I need to put in a bit more time and effort for the LLM. Is it worth it? Perhaps because it would have more of a standing abroad?
Or could it even be a bad thing if, say, I do really well on the LPC and then not so well on the LLM add-on?

Any thoughts however subjective would be appreciated!
No - it isn't worth it. It won't really have any more standing abroad. But it won't be a bad thing unless your grade is dragged down to a pass or worse it leads you to failing.

The only reason I'd recommend it is for the PG loan.
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As mentioned above it is worth it because it lets you access the pg loan. I thought you just had to write an extra essay i.e its a bit of a gimmick, but they all seem to be doing it.
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agree that it's not necessarily a boost for applications, but it can be fun, particularly if you want to try an additional elective that's a bit different, e.g. criminal or employment.
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It is an opportunity cost question. What else would you do in those couple of months? You can then assess whether the alternative has more value than the LLM.

I would say that the LLM add-on has at least some value. An LLM is a more recognisable qualification than a LPC if you try to find a job outside of law. Though to be honest by that point I'm not sure a future employer would be too concerned about your academics. And I guess you probably get some value from the stuff they teach?

That said, if there is something else worthwhile you'd like to do during those few months, it is probably worth doing that instead.
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I did it primarily because of the PG loan, but I would've done it anyway; It's an extra qualification for very little work - surely having an LLM is better than not having one?
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I’m in the same boat as you right now (going into my third year of university) based on what i have read on this thread, if you do a combined LPC LLM - you can potentially recieve a post graduate loan? if that is the case then to be honest cost wise i think that is a great decision considering it eases the financial aspect a bit. even though some people may say the LLM part of the LLM LPC sounds pointless i think it’s better than just LPC by itself!
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The LLM aspect is a bit of a joke, but its great for receiving the funding. That's why i'm doing it.
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(Original post by Bas16)
I know this is a topic that has been discussed to death on TSR but my situation is slightly different.

I am self-fundig the LPC and have the option to do an extra couple of modules to make it an LLM for free. I understand that this is done to make people eligible for pg loans and that employers in the UK don't take this type of LLM seriously.

However I would like to take money out of the equation completely. Let's pretend the LPC and LLM are both completely free. The only difference being that I need to put in a bit more time and effort for the LLM. Is it worth it? Perhaps because it would have more of a standing abroad?
Or could it even be a bad thing if, say, I do really well on the LPC and then not so well on the LLM add-on?

Any thoughts however subjective would be appreciated!
I am self funding and chose the LLM. It’s just two extra essays based on topics/areas of your choice.

I didn’t think too much into whether it would have anymore standing, just fancied doing extra modules related to business management and research into an area of law.

The main focus of course, is the LPC.
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Thank you all for the answers!
Found it quite useful to view it from the opportunity cost perspective.

Thank you!
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It is an opportunity cost question. What else would you do in those couple of months? You can then assess whether the alternative has more value than the LLM.

I would say that the LLM add-on has at least some value. An LLM is a more recognisable qualification than a LPC if you try to find a job outside of law. Though to be honest by that point I'm not sure a future employer would be too concerned about your academics. And I guess you probably get some value from the stuff they teach?

That said, if there is something else worthwhile you'd like to do during those few months, it is probably worth doing that instead.
Since the OP asked about abroad, I think this advice is particularly true for non-law jobs outside England. Basically no-one outside the UK will know what the LPC is while it is much more likely that they would have at least heard of a LLM as a postgraduate degree. For example, think of a non-law HR/recruitment person in the US.

I agree with the others that you don’t want to overstate the value of an add-on LLM, but during an initial screening of applicants in a foreign country, the person with the add-on LLM would be more likely to get credit, in a tick the box manner, for having a postgraduate degree than the person who only did the core LPC. Everything else being equal, the person who ticked the postgraduate degree box would be more likely to get an initial interview than someone who the company didn’t give that credit to.
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