Applying to undergraduate Medicine as a graduate as opposed to the GEM route?

They're both undergrad degrees. And yes you stand a higher chance of getting into an A100 course vs a GEP: more places available and less competition.

They're both undergrad degrees. And yes you stand a higher chance of getting into an A100 course vs a GEP: more places available and less competition.

But when applying for the conventional 5 year course, would graduates be in a better position than school-leavers? I hope so!

They're both undergrad degrees. And yes you stand a higher chance of getting into an A100 course vs a GEP: more places available and less competition.

If you have good A-level marks, a predicted first or 2:1 in a relevant degree and a decent UKCAT score, then you definitely have more chances. Especially in the interview. If you've been studying biochemistry for example for 3 years you will definitely convince people more in the interview because you'll know much more about how some diseases work and you'll be able to show your passion through knowledge. However, If you don't have A levels and you only have a degree, even if you get 100% in your degree many universities will instantly reject your application. Same goes with UKCAT score.

That may possibly apply to Oxbridge and a few others, but most Med Schools don't ask science questions or anything requiring medical knowledge. A lot use MMI to test personal attributes and general understanding of what a medical career entails.

Yeah true, except if its a traditional interview like in Southampton and other universities in the UK. My point it that a degree is always a plus but in everything else in your application needs to be good. For example a first class degree is nothing with a bad UKCAT score.

I agree that you can't get an interview without all round good stats in academics, ukcat etc.

However many Med Schools score grads and non-grads separately before interview. This means the competition is grad versus grad, so the degree is no advantage. Or else ukcat is the main criteria, again no advantage - in fact there is often a higher ukcat threshold for grads (Newcastle for example). Again, at Leicester (for example) 1 in 3 grad applicants reached interview stage but 56% of undergrads were given interviews.

Once at interview, I'm not aware that grads perform significantly better. At Leicester 63% of grads interviewed last year were successful and 60% of undergrads. This isn't what I would expect, but that's what the stats tell us.

So, just making the point that at many Med Schools a degree isn't a plus. In fact it may put you in a more competitive environment when applying for the 5 year course.

I guess, though, it will vary according to Med School.

I didn't know that it was grad vs grad and undergrad vs undergrad. Good to know though because this explains why I got rejected by all my 4 choices and I am a grad. Thank you! This clears a lot of things in my head

I didn't know that it was grad vs grad and undergrad vs undergrad. Good to know though because this explains why I got rejected by all my 4 choices and I am a grad. Thank you! This clears a lot of things in my head

Does anyone know what funding is available for people in OP’s situation?

I’m a graduate and I have 3 interviews for GEM course, which gets funded well. I have 1 at a standard entry 5 year Course though. Would I have to fund the entire thing, or is most of it sill covered by the NHS?

TIA

You have to fund the first 4 years of tuition fees on a 5 year course. You get maintenance loans for the duration. NHS takes over in fifth year.

Jesus. Thanks for the reply.
Well that is going to be incredibly tricky. Seems a bit stupid to be honest. Why would the NHS not fund it?

We're lucky they fund anything at all. They have stopped for all other healthcare degrees.

Graduates moving into medicine is a very common route for new doctors. You won’t see anywhere near as many graduate nurses or graduate OTs - even so, there are plenty of other routes for them to explore.

I think it’s pretty nonsensical for them to fund the 4 year almost entirely but only fund one year of a standard entry for a graduate. It’s a place that would have been taken by non-graduate, so what’s their logic?