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Syrian Kurdish region about to fall to pro- Turkish jihadist invasion. watch

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    Should there be a no fly zone banning Turkish airforces frim Syrian Kurdistan?

    The Syrian Kurdish region that helped destroy ISIS in Syria is about to fall after a massive Turkish led offensive. The city of Affrin is about to be taken by Jihadist militia supported by Turkish army. Huge numbers of YPG and civilian people are being forced to flee the region as refugees, amid endless Turkish aerial bombing.

    (I heard this on the car radio this evening at 7:30 sorry I can’t give any links but google it)
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    Should there? Probably. Alas such a move is politically impossible.
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    (Original post by Napp)
    Should there? Probably. Alas such a move is politically impossible.
    I disagree, Turkey are a member of NATO, thus the UK, US and France have large influence on their political decisions. If we were to pursue a no fly zone they would have to listen.
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    The Kurds never get a rest, do they?
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    Turkish offensive against the Kurds started 2 weeks ago, been bombing the **** out of them since. Kurds have been fighting back but arent likely to get antwhere considering the US pulled what meagre support they were giving them away.

    If you know anything about the Kurds this shouldn't be the least but surprising. Been by far the most effective force against ISIS despite also being attacked by Assad and bombed by the Turks. Meanwhile they have established a society of democratic representation, tolerance and a real promise of equality.

    The international status quo is against them, not only does no one in the region want them to succed big Western powers, particularly the US are wary of letting any form of Socialism thrive anywhere, let alone the middle East.
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    (Original post by The PoliticalGuy)
    I disagree, Turkey are a member of NATO, thus the UK, US and France have large influence on their political decisions. If we were to pursue a no fly zone they would have to listen.
    to a point but in recent times, especially since the aborted coup, Erdogan seems to have developed a deep antipathy to its NATO 'friends' especially the US, Germany and Holland. I would say whilst NATO has influence it is by no means unilateral and in a position to dictate to Turkey. He has rightfully judged that under trump the US's interest in foreign affairs is far shakier in the region and it is unlikely anyone will do anything to push their agenda with much force.
    Personally i'd say, aside from there being absolutely no appetite in the west for such a move, that Turkey will continue ignoring what NATO wants in the region when it goes against Turkeys key interests and unless something dramatic happens this is unlikely to change in the mid-term.
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    Turket is a disgrace to Nato.

    Well not really. It sums up what Nato is really about. The Kurds are just going to be left to die to suit western geopoltical interests.
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    (Original post by mojojojo101)

    The international status quo is against them, not only does no one in the region want them to succed big Western powers, particularly the US are wary of letting any form of Socialism thrive anywhere, let alone the middle East.
    I don't think this is really true anymore. Despite all the hysterical red baiting the right does they are incedibly complacement right now. They are not worried of socialism in the same way they were during the Cold War, when people like the Kurds were often allied with the Soviet Union in lenninist national liberation movements. Not only is the big communist superpower no longer around but the Kurdish socialism is much less openly confrontational with the west. It's specifcially designed to coexist with existing states and big global players.

    I doubt the americans even notice the Kurd's socialism on their radar. It's more to do with Turkey being in Nato as a bulwark against Russia. What is killing the Kurds is total indifference from the west.
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    If anyone wants to keep up and know more about the Kurds and what is going on this place is always a good place for news.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/rojava/
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    It's a real shame because Afrin, the area under attack, has been virtually untouched by the war, at least directly. Kurds took over after Assad's army pulled out in mid 2012 to focus on other more important fronts. Since then, the only fighting has been on the edge of the territory, the main part of the canton has never seen fighting. Refugees have fled to the area from other parts of Syria.

    And now this safe haven is going to be invaded pointlessly and then governed by Turkish backed Islamists who have an awful record on human rights.
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    http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite...the-west/21233

    AFRIN: THE SHAME OF THE WEST

    "So, on the pretext of securing Turkish borders, of fighting a ‘terrorist group’, Turkey and its Western allies have killed and displaced huge numbers of Syrian Kurds. And they have done so using a client militia consisting of those who, when they’re not pulling down statues of Kurdish folk heroes, are declaring war on the West, and calling on their brothers to drive lorries into crowds in London or Berlin. Far from being a simple tale of good-versus-Russia, the reality of Syria is a compromised, cynical mess in which international actors on either side are making endlessly cynical calculations as to what might, at this moment, be in their interests. And as it stands, those calculations are being made at a very steep cost to the Syrian people themselves, be they Arab or Kurdish."
 
 
 
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