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    I'm just curious how hard they work. I've heard stories of them working over 12 hour days. Thats like arriving at the hospital at 7am and leaving at 8pm. Any junior doctors on here? How long do you work on average?
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    It's often not just the duration of the shift but also the intensity of the work within it.

    Most doctors will work on a rota with a variety of different shifts - "normal days" which are normally 8-9 hours long, "long days" which are 12.5 or 13 hours - normally something like 0800-2100, nights - which will also be 12.5 or 13 hours eg 9pm to 9.30am, and then sometimes also twilight type shifts which are generally early afternoon to late evening and 8-10 hours long. There will be departments like A&E where most of the hours are antisocial, and other specialties that are more civilised.

    The rota is usually a revolving pattern that varies from week to week, and there are some limits to what can be worked in a given time period - on AVERAGE no more than 48 hours per week, and no more than 72 hours in an individual week, for example. So you won't be doing 12 hour shifts every day, but often blocks with longer shifts in and then blocks with shorter shifts.

    That's the official, on-paper hours. The reality can often be different - in busy jobs with high workloads leaving on time can be hard. So although you're rota'd to finish at 5pm, often end up having to stay 1-2 hours later or more. This will vary from job to job. I remember one of my jobs in particular where the workload was horrendous and I regularly left very late, but other jobs where I was generally leaving on time with no problems. In theory there are systems in place - reporting hours that you've gone over, handing over to the out of hours team etc, but again the reality is often somewhat more complicated.
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    I'm just curious how hard they work. I've heard stories of them working over 12 hour days. Thats like arriving at the hospital at 7am and leaving at 8pm. Any junior doctors on here? How long do you work on average?
    @junior.doctor has already answered very well. There are many of us on here usually hiding out in the "Current Medical Students and Doctors" forum, but of course also keen to answer questions here.

    It all depends on your rota as to how long you work. Your base hours are Mon-Fri 9-5. You do not get a choice as to whether your job has on-calls or not (during F1 / F2 / CMT). If there is an on-call element you get paid more.

    During your on-calls, you could be working in your normal ward 9-5, then go somewhere else after 5pm. 12 hours is a distinct possibility. Or alternatively be completely based elsewhere for the whole shift. You may be doing nights. Nights are usually long (>= 10 hours after 8pm / 9pm), but most nights are only 3 nights (starting Friday) or 4 nights (starting Monday).

    It is unlikely that you would be working many long days in a row (unless you swapped). If you work overtime, as @junior.doctor said on the new contract you can exceptional report and claim your time back or be paid extra.
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    (Original post by rickyrossman)
    I've heard stories of them working over 12 hour days. Thats like arriving at the hospital at 7am and leaving at 8pm.
    That's a very normal shift, although as pointed out above it would only be on a minority of days. In fact you can do 24 hour or even 48 hour shifts once you're a little more senior - however, half of that would be 'non-resident' i.e. majority of work is just taking phone calls and you can do it from home, only going in if there is a pressing need. My SpR colleagues certainly found the 13 hour shift -> 12 hours of being kept awake by regular phone calls and having to come in on average every other shift, then having to work a normal 9-5 day again immediately after, quite tiring!

    As said above, the average hours cannot be longer than 48 hours per week, and sometimes its as low as 40, however, there are also things like mandatory exams and mandatory audits that you are expected to do in your free time, so at some points in your career your actual hours, even if the ward work is ok and you don't have to stay late for any of it, are actually much longer than advertised. And that doesn't attract exception reporting.
 
 
 
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