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    a) because the prostitution they're taking advantage of is unlikely to be entirely freely undertaken by the women. It's much more probably they are under control of pimps and people paying for their services are directly funding human trafficking.

    b) there's suspicion some of them are minors.
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    (Original post by yudothis)
    Sexual exploitation is a good thing?

    How about they just give them the money instead of exploiting the economic situation of the people for sexual gratification.
    yeah right ,like that's just gonna happen, or do you know of a reserve army of mugs that hand out 20 dollar bills willy nilly, get real please
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    Prostitution is illegal in Haiti. Plus we are paying Oxfam to be out there with foreign aid. It’s wasting money



    I have no problem with some expat using a hooker in Thailand with his/her own money.
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    (Original post by So-Sarah)
    yeah right ,like that's just gonna happen, or do you know of a reserve army of mugs that hand out 20 dollar bills willy nilly, get real please
    They obviously have 20 dollar. They are supposedly there to help. But they think "nah why give this kid $20, let her suck my **** first".
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    (Original post by So-Sarah)
    expats and aid workers have been having sex with local hookers since foreign travel began - what's the big deal?

    Because they were taking advantage of desperate people living in desperate circumstances.


    Prostitution has numerous mentally and physically debilitating effects on the body, and many people who go down its route, rarely ever leave the profession for good (even after good times return). In fact prostitution often reduces the recovery of neighborhoods (as people end up trapped in a miserable cycle of selling their bodies to survive).

    Many prostitutes (in a bid to cope with the immediate soul destroying effects of prostituting themselves) become dependent on highly addictive (and long-term, life wrecking) drugs. These drugs in turn profit criminal gangs (and exacerbate the prostitutes poverty and communities issues etc).

    There is also a good chance that many of these prostitutes were underage and/or totally forced into the profession in general against their will by other people. Its not a regulated profession, and it is notorious for being connected to larger organized crimes (such as human trafficking).

    Faced with the ever-present threat of rape and violence etc, many prostitutes are forced to become contracted to pimps for protected (and thus gangs) for protection, so that rather than enriching communities, the prostitution often ends up doing little but lining the pockets of criminal gangs (while the prostitutes live out trapped, fear-filled, miserable, unhealthy and impoverished existences).

    And once a community becomes gripped & controlled by criminal gangs (whose power ever increases thanks to all the lucrative enterprises created by people trapped in desperate circumstances), the chances of the community rebuilding itself and rising out of poverty after a disaster, start to become exceptionally remote.

    These charity workers were helping fuel prostitution and criminal gangs (when they should have been doing their upmost to help communities avoid these fates).
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    This is way different. It is against the Oxfam rules to pay for sex, and the UN forbids the UN have similar rules as well, which most certainly all the staff would have been aware of. For the main bosses of Oxfam to behave in such a way is appalling. He was not doing this on his own time, on his own
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    (Original post by Feastful)


    These charity workers were helping fuel prostitution and criminal gangs (when they should have been doing their upmost to help communities avoid these fates).
    yadda yadda yadda, and I guess you just happen to have a whole bunch of nice salaried jobs for these ex-hookers to do, right?
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    (Original post by So-Sarah)
    yadda yadda yadda, and I guess you just happen to have a whole bunch of nice salaried jobs for these ex-hookers to do, right?
    🙄...

    Oh I'm sorry, I guess I missed the part where the Oxfam's only way to rebuild communities was to have sex with desperate local women for pennies?

    Lol gimme a break!

    Stop trying to make out that what was going on was some sort of noble economy building jig. It was unscrupulous charity workers (paid for by people's donations) having sex with desperate people.
    People donate MILLIONS to Oxfam, and It's certainly not to pay for the workers to have sex with the victims!

    Lol, what next- "Sir I asure you that i was only helping this farmer get back on his feet by buying some cocaine off him (I mean, what else are we supposed to do- dig a well, fix his donkeys bad feet or give him some barley seeds? Yeah right!). I did the bloke a massive favour too the other day when I helped him get $200s for his daughter (top end price too when the locals are barely paying $80s for a girl these days)- I even gave her a shag myself!"🙄😑😐.

    Do you even think?
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    The CEO saying Oxfam have become a "whipping boy" probably isn't the best choice of words...

    https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...scandal-claims
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    Well they are a humanitarian body. I don't see the furore is NOT unjustified. that said, i cannot see an easy resolution.
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    More likely than not this is all BS....Feminism has for the last ten years been using false sexual harassment claims on global level to worm its way into power....It worked in India with the false rape and sexual harassment epidemic nonsense, it worked in the US with the weinstein BS, it worked here with the recent false sexual harassment allegations hurled at MPs, it worked in France and they now seem to be using it to worm their way into power in global charity organisations....

    Men are evil...society must replace them with women, feminists to be more precise.
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    (Original post by Feastful)
    🙄...

    Stop trying to make out that what was going on was some sort of noble economy building jig.
    People donate MILLIONS to Oxfam, and It's certainly not to pay for the workers to have sex with the victims!
    What the workers do with their private salary is up to them.

    What the donors do with their private donations is up to them
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    (Original post by So-Sarah)
    What the workers do with their private salary is up to them.

    What the donors do with their private donations is up to them
    you need to read the allegations better. it wasn't even consensual sex.
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    (Original post by coolforcatz)
    you need to read the allegations better. it wasn't even consensual sex.
    most of the allegations are about men using adult prostitutes and it's only the righteous aid sucking left that decry this kind of work as 'exploitation' yet, funnily enough these same hypcorcte lefites are keen to bleed the UK taxpayer dry to pay for their own PC projcets
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    (Original post by coolforcatz)
    you need to read the allegations better. it wasn't even consensual sex.
    if it's blatant abuse then of course that must be challenged, but just using the service of an adult sex worker with consent, is not abuse
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    (Original post by So-Sarah)
    if it's blatant abuse then of course that must be challenged, but just using the service of an adult sex worker with consent, is not abuse
    it's against Oxfam rules for employees to do it.
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    ok, so you agree that govt aid funding to them should be cut, right?
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    Yes I do.
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    (Original post by So-Sarah)
    if it's blatant abuse then of course that must be challenged, but just using the service of an adult sex worker with consent, is not abuse
    We're not talking about elite escorts in Pimlico or Hampstead here. These are desperate women living in battered countries in acute poverty. The men who are there to help (and paid to do that by famous charities) should not be taking advantage of such desperation and it is basically abuse in this context.

    Most people would agree with that, but the problem here seems to be employment laws and fear of litigation. The Oxfam bosses treated this serial abuser with kid gloves, probably because they didn't have sufficient evidence and because employment law being what it is, he could doubtless have sued. What's sad about that is that he was free to carry on doing it for other NGOs.
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    but NGO's are just rackets living off donations from working people in Western countries, so what else can one expect? this **** has been going on for decades
 
 
 
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