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    Hi Everyone!

    I've posted a question regarding Studying at the LSBU, if you have an opinion please take a look at it! Thank you!

    I've made this separate question/post in order to focus more on the course.

    How is it to study Advanced Vehicle Engineering? (Exciting, Relevant?... positives, negatives)

    Is the Course well developed?

    Does it give the necessary information to become a good Engineer?

    Do you study subjects like Motorsports, and Aerodynamics?

    Will I have the chance to work at a Racing Team afterwards or will I have to study more?

    I've read on that on some Universities we're allowed to participate in a competition in Silverstone, is it true?

    How does Advanced Vehicle Engineering differ from Mechanical Engineering? Is it just the name?

    Do you know a good book that I could buy right now in order to start studying for myself prior to the beginning of the course?

    Thank you very much for your help!
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    Hi Everyone!

    I've posted a question regarding Studying at the LSBU, if you have an opinion please take a look at it! Thank you!

    I've made this separate question/post in order to focus more on the course.

    How is it to study Advanced Vehicle Engineering? (Exciting, Relevant?... positives, negatives)

    Is the Course well developed?

    Does it give the necessary information to become a good Engineer?

    Do you study subjects like Motorsports, and Aerodynamics?

    Will I have the chance to work at a Racing Team afterwards or will I have to study more?

    I've read on that on some Universities we're allowed to participate in a competition in Silverstone, is it true?

    How does Advanced Vehicle Engineering differ from Mechanical Engineering? Is it just the name?

    Do you know a good book that I could buy right now in order to start studying for myself prior to the beginning of the course?

    Thank you very much for your help!
    Are you aware that according to Unistats that course is not professionally accredited currently?
    http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/courses/course...kaAgRWEALw_wcB


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    No, I wasn't aware of that. It doesn't sound good.

    What does that mean?
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    No, I wasn't aware of that. It doesn't sound good.

    What does that mean?
    It makes it harder (but not impossible) to achieve Chartered status and this might limit your career a bit.

    More seriously it can indicate the course doesn't contain sufficient content, or it might just be a new course that is awaiting accreditation. Contact the university and ask them.

    Note, other courses at LSBU are accredited though:
    http://www.engc.org.uk/education-ski...course-search/

    Have you also applied to other universities?
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    Well, that just raised my disbelief on this course's ability to bring me further in the future. Thank you for making me aware of it.

    Yes, I have applied to a couple more universities, one of which I've already received an offer, in the field of Motorsport (also not professionally accredited by Unistats), which is actually more interesting for me, the problem is, the University's in Blackpool and I'm just not sure if Blackpool is going to be an exciting city to live in for 3 or 4 years.

    One of my goals was to live in London for a couple of years, I'm living in Switzerland right now and it's achingly boring.

    I read the information LSBU supply on the course (Advanced Vehicle Engineering) and it says the first year is basically the same as the first year of Mechanical Engineering.

    Do you think it's possible to change/reapply to Mechanical Engineering without having to wait until the end of July for an answer?

    I'm going to try and contact the University.
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    Well, that just raised my disbelief on this course's ability to bring me further in the future. Thank you for making me aware of it.

    Yes, I have applied to a couple more universities, one of which I've already received an offer, in the field of Motorsport (also not professionally accredited by Unistats), which is actually more interesting for me, the problem is, the University's in Blackpool and I'm just not sure if Blackpool is going to be an exciting city to live in for 3 or 4 years.

    One of my goals was to live in London for a couple of years, I'm living in Switzerland right now and it's achingly boring.

    I read the information LSBU supply on the course (Advanced Vehicle Engineering) and it says the first year is basically the same as the first year of Mechanical Engineering.

    Do you think it's possible to change/reapply to Mechanical Engineering without having to wait until the end of July for an answer?

    I'm going to try and contact the University.
    Why have you chosen Blackpool (I confess I didn't know Blackpool had a university...) and LSBU? Don't you have good enough grades for more "highly regarded" universities?

    Also there are plenty of people working in motorsports with a mechanical engineering degree.

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    Thank you very much for your help! I'm very glad you're taking the time to answer!

    I chose Blackpool (Blackpool and the Fylde College) because it had a course which specialized in Motorsport, and London because my main goal prior to applying to University was to move to a big city. Of course a big factor was the cost of the university itself, because, although we're able to apply for student finance, I will have to pay for everything by myself so I couldn't really pick an expensive University. I have also applied in Brighton and Birmingham.

    I'm glad to hear that Mechanical Engineering helps me get into Motorsport. I suspect Advanced Vehicle Engineering will do as well.

    I've just compared all the information regarding modules on both Courses (LSBU Website) and the only major difference is on the third year where AVE has a module called Vehicle Powertrain - Sustainability and 1D-CFD and ME has Thermofluis and Thermomachinery. AVE has also the smaller number of Teachers.

    After a deeper Research I've also found that Mechanical Engineering focuses on a broad range of employment possibilities, quote: ''Industrial Sectors, Power, Construction and Health'' whereas AVE focuses only on the Automotive Field, which is the only one which interests me, which is actually a good thing.

    I am just so confused right now. Why is it not accredited by Unistats?
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    Thank you very much for your help! I'm very glad you're taking the time to answer!

    I chose Blackpool (Blackpool and the Fylde College) because it had a course which specialized in Motorsport, and London because my main goal prior to applying to University was to move to a big city. Of course a big factor was the cost of the university itself, because, although we're able to apply for student finance, I will have to pay for everything by myself so I couldn't really pick an expensive University. I have also applied in Brighton and Birmingham.

    I'm glad to hear that Mechanical Engineering helps me get into Motorsport. I suspect Advanced Vehicle Engineering will do as well.

    I've just compared all the information regarding modules on both Courses (LSBU Website) and the only major difference is on the third year where AVE has a module called Vehicle Powertrain - Sustainability and 1D-CFD and ME has Thermofluis and Thermomachinery. AVE has also the smaller number of Teachers.

    After a deeper Research I've also found that Mechanical Engineering focuses on a broad range of employment possibilities, quote: ''Industrial Sectors, Power, Construction and Health'' whereas AVE focuses only on the Automotive Field, which is the only one which interests me, which is actually a good thing.

    I am just so confused right now. Why is it not accredited by Unistats?
    Unistats is just a reporting service ie. University Statistics. It's not responsible for the accreditation itself. Courses are accredited by IMechE (for mechanical engineering) or whichever the appropriate industry body is for other specialisations.

    I provided a link earlier to the Engineering Council - they are the central body that supervises the industry specific organisations.
    http://www.engc.org.uk/education-ski...course-search/

    What qualifications do you already have, or expect to achieve, to enable you to apply to these courses?
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    I searched the Course on the website you sent me, but was unable to find any results. I've contacted them as well.

    I have a 3-year Formation in High Voltage Electrician in Switzerland plus 4 years work experience. Otherwise, I spend a lot of time designing cars and working on them.
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    I searched the Course on the website you sent me, but was unable to find any results. I've contacted them as well.

    I have a 3-year Formation in High Voltage Electrician in Switzerland plus 4 years work experience. Otherwise, I spend a lot of time designing cars and working on them.
    So no academic qualifications?
    Are you categorised as International for fees?

    Another London university to look at is Brunel. It has an accredited Auto Engineering course.

    PS. It's best if you quote the post you are replying to so the poster gets a notification when you reply
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    So no academic qualifications?
    Are you categorised as International for fees?

    Another London university to look at is Brunel. It has an accredited Auto Engineering course.

    PS. It's best if you quote the post you are replying to so the poster gets a notification when you reply
    Thanks for the advice.

    Those are my qualifications, yes. The Swiss education system is different to most international systems, as they invest a lot more on these formations. Basically you work and go to school at the same time for 3 years, with a big exam at the end.

    As a portuguese citizen I think I do, although they sometimes have different fees from people from the EU, i.e. me. I saw Brunnel and I remember they had a pretty big fee. I will double check.
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    Thanks for the advice.

    Those are my qualifications, yes. The Swiss education system is different to most international systems, as they invest a lot more on these formations. Basically you work and go to school at the same time for 3 years, with a big exam at the end.

    As a portuguese citizen I think I do, although they sometimes have different fees from people from the EU, i.e. me. I saw Brunnel and I remember they had a pretty big fee. I will double check.
    If you are an EU student the fee is the same everywhere (£9,250 and covered by Student Finance loan).
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    Basically you work and go to school at the same time for 3 years, with a big exam at the end.
    So you did the Matura?
    https://www.surrey.ac.uk/european-union/switzerland
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    If you are an EU student the fee is the same everywhere (£9,250 and covered by Student Finance loan).
    I wish I knew that a couple of months ago.
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    I wish I knew that a couple of months ago.
    Do you have any choices left on UCAS Track?

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    Do you have any choices left on UCAS Track?

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    I've used all five of them on the 15th of January.
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    (Original post by Doonesbury)
    It makes it harder (but not impossible) to achieve Chartered status and this might limit your career a bit.

    More seriously it can indicate the course doesn't contain sufficient content, or it might just be a new course that is awaiting accreditation. Contact the university and ask them.

    Note, other courses at LSBU are accredited though:
    http://www.engc.org.uk/education-ski...course-search/

    Have you also applied to other universities?
    (Original post by purodanone)
    Well, that just raised my disbelief on this course's ability to bring me further in the future. Thank you for making me aware of it.

    Yes, I have applied to a couple more universities, one of which I've already received an offer, in the field of Motorsport (also not professionally accredited by Unistats), which is actually more interesting for me, the problem is, the University's in Blackpool and I'm just not sure if Blackpool is going to be an exciting city to live in for 3 or 4 years.

    One of my goals was to live in London for a couple of years, I'm living in Switzerland right now and it's achingly boring.

    I read the information LSBU supply on the course (Advanced Vehicle Engineering) and it says the first year is basically the same as the first year of Mechanical Engineering.

    Do you think it's possible to change/reapply to Mechanical Engineering without having to wait until the end of July for an answer?

    I'm going to try and contact the University.
    As a quick note, it's unaccredited because it's new, not because they haven't applied for accreditation. It will almost certainly be accredited by the time OP graduates, which is what counts.
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    (Original post by Helloworld_95)
    As a quick note, it's unaccredited because it's new, not because they haven't applied for accreditation. It will almost certainly be accredited by the time OP graduates, which is what counts.
    Ah cool. Yes, I mentioned it might be new in #4.
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    Hi Everyone!

    I've posted a question regarding Studying at the LSBU, if you have an opinion please take a look at it! Thank you!

    I've made this separate question/post in order to focus more on the course.

    How is it to study Advanced Vehicle Engineering? (Exciting, Relevant?... positives, negatives)

    Is the Course well developed?

    Does it give the necessary information to become a good Engineer?

    Do you study subjects like Motorsports, and Aerodynamics?

    Will I have the chance to work at a Racing Team afterwards or will I have to study more?

    I've read on that on some Universities we're allowed to participate in a competition in Silverstone, is it true?

    How does Advanced Vehicle Engineering differ from Mechanical Engineering? Is it just the name?

    Do you know a good book that I could buy right now in order to start studying for myself prior to the beginning of the course?

    Thank you very much for your help!
    Also, to answer some of these questions:

    The course is new but looking at the module list, the classes seem like the kind of things that would be available in you standard mechanical engineering course so I would imagine the individual modules have been around for a while and so are reasonably well developed.

    It doesn't seem like LSBU's course includes motorsports or aerodynamics, though that is odd for an automotive engineering course. We'll come back to this later though as the course isn't the be all end all.

    There is a competition called formula student where teams from across Europe design and build their own car to race around Silverstone. It appears LSBU puts forward a team for this. Their team is small and quite new, which means you'll be able to get more involved in the process but perhaps won't go as far as more developed teams.

    Vehicle/Automotive engineering should have compulsory modules in subjects related to automotive design and less modules which are unrelated to this. In practice a mechanical degree would usually be advised however as you often find new niches that you enjoy throughout university so it gives you more things to explore, you can also usually take the same classes as the automotive students, and in terms of employment in the automotive industry it doesn't make much difference.

    A lot of people recommend Engineering Mathematics by K.A. Stroud, but I can't think of anything more specific to Automotive engineering. It might be worth downloading and playing around with V-REP, which is a robotics simulation software and I think the education version is free and available to everyone. It'll allow you to learn a bit of programming and about how autonomous cars work, both things which are becoming incredibly valuable when going into the automotive industry.
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    (Original post by purodanone)
    I've used all five of them on the 15th of January.
    Ok. What are your 5 choices?

    And did you sit the Matura?
 
 
 
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