Turn on thread page Beta

What are your political beliefs? watch

  • View Poll Results: Where are you on the political scale?
    Left
    15.15%
    Centre-left
    22.22%
    Centre
    16.16%
    Centre-right
    24.24%
    Right
    22.22%

    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    4
    ReputationRep:
    I go to an all girls school, so then environment is very pro feminism and pro left. I am centre, however would never admit it otherwise I would be hunted down.
    I am very open and believe that both the left and the right have good ideas and have to exist together for society to truly work. HOWEVER I refuse to feed into identity politics and giving people oppression points. They believe a persons worth is based on how 'oppressed' they are, not on how much they contribute to society.
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    Centre-left.
    Everyone should have a fair crack at the whip regardless of background - but equality of outcome is not desirable. Some inequality is natural and needed to spur efficiency/innovation, but too much leads to abject barbarism.

    Socially liberal but the collapse of family life/marriage is to be fought and cheap identity politics ought to be abandoned.
    • Thread Starter
    Offline

    4
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Moosferatu)
    Centre-left.
    Everyone should have a fair crack at the whip regardless of background - but equality of outcome is not desirable. Some inequality is natural and needed to spur efficiency/innovation, but too much leads to abject barbarism.

    Socially liberal but the collapse of family life/marriage is to be fought and cheap identity politics ought to be abandoned.
    So you believe in equality of opportunity?
    • TSR Support Team
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    TSR Support Team
    I'm probably centre / centre-left. I can appreciate some of the concerns the right has but I believe a centre left thinking mentality is the best direction for our country.
    Offline

    6
    ReputationRep:
    I am on the right on most things - economy, small state, low welfare... though I do believe in a nationalised railway & utilities distribution and I would be happy with the NHS if it could stop wasting so much of our money.

    I also believe in a socialised funeral service. I don't know why the Labour Party hasn't thought of that.

    I think the BBC is the greatest danger to the UK and should be a subscription-only service and not the current licence fee where you have to pay it even if you watch other channels.
    Offline

    14
    ReputationRep:
    Left wing libertarian
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    Centre- right, Thatcherite tendencies. Small government and a strong state with rule of law.
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Lola<3)
    So you believe in equality of opportunity?
    Yes.

    If someone cannot be arsed to work, then the person who can should be given the rewards.

    However, I am absolutely aghast at lazy and stupid people from wealthy backgrounds being given a first class education and a raft of opportunities purely because of their background. Politically we should work towards a more meritocratic system.

    Strong public services are a major part of supporting the established middle classes and giving the clever ones among the poor the chance to shine and go up the social ladder.

    I also believe adult education is a major factor. There is a saying; education is wasted on the young, and I do believe this. Should an adult decide they want to return to education and study for something the route should not be closed for them because they screwed about at school. It is a very small percentage of the population with pushy parents not satisfied unless they get 14 A*s or whatever. It is better for everybody that their talents are realised if they wish to go down a more fulfilling path in life.

    Saying that education and training should be altogether more technical and vocational and target skills shortages if it is to be funded by the state. The country needs more homegrown nurses, electricians, and plumbers. It does not need more media or gender studies graduates.
    Offline

    16
    ReputationRep:
    Anarchist.

    We should demolish all structures of oppression, most notably Capitalism, Religion and the State, but that should also apply to all forms of hierarhical power structures.

    We should form a society based on Kroptkin's maxim 'all things for all people all the time'.
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    Right-wing Libertarians for the win!
    Offline

    19
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by Moosferatu)
    Yes.

    If someone cannot be arsed to work, then the person who can should be given the rewards.

    However, I am absolutely aghast at lazy and stupid people from wealthy backgrounds being given a first class education and a raft of opportunities purely because of their background. Politically we should work towards a more meritocratic system.

    Strong public services are a major part of supporting the established middle classes and giving the clever ones among the poor the chance to shine and go up the social ladder.

    I also believe adult education is a major factor. There is a saying; education is wasted on the young, and I do believe this. Should an adult decide they want to return to education and study for something the route should not be closed for them because they screwed about at school. It is a very small percentage of the population with pushy parents not satisfied unless they get 14 A*s or whatever. It is better for everybody that their talents are realised if they wish to go down a more fulfilling path in life.

    Saying that education and training should be altogether more technical and vocational and target skills shortages if it is to be funded by the state. The country needs more homegrown nurses, electricians, and plumbers. It does not need more media or gender studies graduates.
    I identified as centre-right, but I agree with you on virtually everything you've said in this thread.

    I think the problem with talking about meritocracy in education is that it is usually used to attack well performing schools and so on, rather than to question why so many are left with poor educational provision despite their ability. I vaguely take on board the idea that if we abolished all the independent schools, it might make comprehensive schools better - but I'm pretty unconvinced really - and I think it's pretty naive for some to suggest that throwing thousands more pupil into state education with no additional funding could reasonably be thought of as a good idea. Even then, inevitably some parents will pay for additional tutoring and so on.

    As I see it, the only way to reduce educational inequality is to make some of the worst-performing schools better.
    • Aston Villa FC Supporter
    • Political Ambassador
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    Aston Villa FC Supporter
    Political Ambassador
    Right wing libertarian (people who have seen me around here would have gathered that), not quite a minarchist but I do believe that we should have minimal state involvement both socially and economically, believing that the market knows best most of the time, and for it to prosper the most, we should have a free market system. I think emergency healthcare should be provided by the state and all other services be provided by different companies, with a basic health plan that is accessible to all. Expanding grammar schools in order to provide a choice in education qualities and allow for social mobility to flourish without interference is another thing I believe in.
    Posted on the TSR App. Download from Apple or Google Play
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    'left wing'. micromanagement of an economy by government so that profit is shared will be possible in the near future as computers are able to perform more complicated tasks.
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    Right wing libertarian (people who have seen me around here would have gathered that), not quite a minarchist but I do believe that we should have minimal state involvement both socially and economically, believing that the market knows best most of the time, and for it to prosper the most, we should have a free market system. I think emergency healthcare should be provided by the state and all other services be provided by different companies, with a basic health plan that is accessible to all. Expanding grammar schools in order to provide a choice in education qualities and allow for social mobility to flourish without interference is another thing I believe in.
    yes let's just allow those who profit from our labour to spend our money on useless goods like yachts cocaine and strippers (money that cant possibly be spent better elsewhere).
    • Aston Villa FC Supporter
    • Political Ambassador
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    Aston Villa FC Supporter
    Political Ambassador
    (Original post by 420blazeallday)
    yes let's just allow those who profit from our labour to spend our money on useless goods like yachts cocaine and strippers (money that cant possibly be spent better elsewhere).
    Well they have the freedom to do so. Not to say that I agree with them doing it but by principle I believe that those who earn money should have the freedom to do what they want with it, and forcing them to pay higher taxes is not the way to go, especially we can’t guarantee that the state will be effective in how it invests sometimes, and thus should be left to those who can make those more informed conditions. Those who profit from labour do so because they are able to effectively manage their companies and have a system that strikes a balance between effectiveness and concessions made. Indeed, that money can be spent better but end of the day it is up to the individual to do so, and if the individual does so, it ends up benefiting more people in the long run
    Posted on the TSR App. Download from Apple or Google Play
    Offline

    2
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    Well they have the freedom to do so. Not to say that I agree with them doing it but by principle I believe that those who earn money should have the freedom to do what they want with it, and forcing them to pay higher taxes is not the way to go, especially we can’t guarantee that the state will be effective in how it invests sometimes, and thus should be left to those who can make those more informed conditions. Those who profit from labour do so because they are able to effectively manage their companies and have a system that strikes a balance between effectiveness and concessions made. Indeed, that money can be spent better but end of the day it is up to the individual to do so, and if the individual does so, it ends up benefiting more people in the long run
    those who profit do not do so because of their effectiveness of running an institution, they do because of some ancient caveman-like idea that wealth and ownership of means of production should be passed down to your offspring: skilled people born with no ownership of means of production (most people) are left with no part in the decision making process of what to do with profit, instead that decision is left to the hereditary owner of a company (some posh **** with no life experience with no interest in investing in anything that does not produce profit). the idea that private ownership of means of production is better for the economy as a whole is a lie supported by the wealth of those who seek to hold power.
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    I put ‘right wing’ but economically I’m pretty centrist. IE I suppport a far greater degree of nationalisation. That said I am fiscally conservative.

    My real right wing views are more to do with changing the nature of society and are pretty illiberal. I guess I’m a High Tory
    • Political Ambassador
    Offline

    14
    ReputationRep:
    Political Ambassador
    I put myself as 'centre-right' but I am best described as a classical liberal which means I am nowhere near mainstream politics in the UK; I strongly believe in the need for freer markets and I believe that government should be minimal. When it comes to economics, I believe that regulations should be cut down upon, free trade should be pursued across the world, the welfare state should be shrunk and replaced with a Negative Income Tax, the private sector should be extended and legislation such as anti-discrimination laws and minimum wage laws should be repealed.

    I did not put myself as 'right-wing' because of my views when it comes to society. Whilst I believe that our parliament should be sovereign, hold controversial views on Islam and wish for restrictions to be placed on immigration (I could be called a paleolibertarian), I ultimately believe that government should stay out of the social life of its citizens, which means I advocate for change rather than the status quo. Following JS Mill's harm principle, I do not believe government should do any more than protect people from danger (the government being the most dangerous of all, requiring decentralisation and checks and balances) and should not be there to take moral stances.

    My ideal society would be close to a Night Watchman State, although I do believe modern society requires slightly more governance due to the irrationality of many people and the way in which greed can corrupt markets and government through corporatism; I am not as optimistic as early liberals such as Locke about human nature and - in that sense - I have some appreciation for conservative philosophy.
    • Aston Villa FC Supporter
    • Political Ambassador
    Offline

    15
    ReputationRep:
    Aston Villa FC Supporter
    Political Ambassador
    (Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
    Right-wing Libertarians for the win!
    What about right wing libertarians appeals to you if you don’t mind me asking?
    Posted on the TSR App. Download from Apple or Google Play
    Offline

    13
    ReputationRep:
    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    What about right wing libertarians appeals to you if you don’t mind me asking?
    That's a rather broad question and I simply don't have the time to give it a justified answer or even begin to explain why I believe the things I do, but I can at least list down some of the appealing aspects of Right-Wing Libertarianism:

    1. Very small government

    2. The NAP

    3. More freedom, equality, more chances to succeed.

    4. Getting rid of the minimum wage

    5. Scrapping affirmative action

    6. Getting rid of masses of regulations that impede growth

    7. Opening British markets up more to get rid of monopolies.

    8. A fairer electoral system

    9. Legalizing (certain) drugs

    10. Stricter regulations on abortion (I would essentially lower the limit down to 16 or 20 weeks, instead of 24).

    11. Privatise some areas of the NHS (far from what America has don't worry lol) e.g. introducing a deposit system

    12. Introduce a (flat) negative tax income

    13. Scrap the benefits program

    14. Seriously take action against climatic pollution by both private and state means

    There's a lot more than I've missed out but that's the crux of it.
 
 
 
Poll
How are you feeling in the run-up to Results Day 2018?
Useful resources

Groups associated with this forum:

View associated groups

The Student Room, Get Revising and Marked by Teachers are trading names of The Student Room Group Ltd.

Register Number: 04666380 (England and Wales), VAT No. 806 8067 22 Registered Office: International House, Queens Road, Brighton, BN1 3XE

Write a reply...
Reply
Hide
Reputation gems: You get these gems as you gain rep from other members for making good contributions and giving helpful advice.