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    (Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
    That's a rather broad question and I simply don't have the time to give it a justified answer or even begin to explain why I believe the things I do, but I can at least list down some of the appealing aspects of Right-Wing Libertarianism:

    1. Very small government

    2. The NAP

    3. More freedom, equality, more chances to succeed.

    4. Getting rid of the minimum wage

    5. Scrapping affirmative action

    6. Getting rid of masses of regulations that impede growth

    7. Opening British markets up more to get rid of monopolies.

    8. A fairer electoral system

    9. Legalizing (certain) drugs

    10. Stricter regulations on abortion (I would essentially lower the limit down to 16 or 20 weeks, instead of 24).

    11. Privatise some areas of the NHS (far from what America has don't worry lol) e.g. introducing a deposit system

    12. Introduce a (flat) negative tax income

    13. Scrap the benefits program

    14. Seriously take action against climatic pollution by both private and state means

    There's a lot more than I've missed out but that's the crux of it.
    Sounds like you and I have quite a bit in common!
    Your points on a ‘fairer electoral system’ and the NHS seem to draw my attention. I’d be quite interested to know your views on them.
    As for one topic that divides libertarians across the board: Immigration. What are your thoughts on that, specifically regarding free movement and the EU, and whether it’s compatible with a free market system?
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    Sounds like you and I have quite a bit in common!
    Your points on a ‘fairer electoral system’ and the NHS seem to draw my attention. I’d be quite interested to know your views on them.
    As for one topic that divides libertarians across the board: Immigration. What are your thoughts on that, specifically regarding free movement and the EU, and whether it’s compatible with a free market system?
    Our currently electoral system simply favour well-established parties (Conservatives/Labour) as it favours concentrated voting rather than widespread. I haven't given the thought of an alternative system too much of my time, but I know that I would like to scrap FPTP. ATV+ is something that I quite like, where you can't list your most preferred.

    As for the NHS, again, I don't have answers to how to overhaul the entire system to make it better, but I would certainly introduce a deposit based system and privatise a lot of the 'non-emergency' practises. Currently, whenever you call in to book an appointment with your GP or whatever, you cost the NHS a minimum of £115 (lighting, doctor p/hr wages, nurse p/hr wages etc.). Since the NHS is free, people don't care if they miss their appointments. Old people also often come in for a quick chat and it's all a bloody waste of time, money and incredibly inefficient. A deposit based system, e.g. if you want to book an appointment you have to give a deposit of £20, will filter out all the people who want to exploit the NHS and also ensures that the NHS gets money if someone DOES miss their appointment. Now if someone does show up the appointment, then they can have their £20 back (or potentially most of it).

    This deposit based system doesn't have to only be appointments. It can be employed across the entire NHS and help drastically reduce costs and increase efficiency.
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    (Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
    Our currently electoral system simply favour well-established parties (Conservatives/Labour) as it favours concentrated voting rather than widespread. I haven't given the thought of an alternative system too much of my time, but I know that I would like to scrap FPTP. ATV+ is something that I quite like, where you can't list your most preferred.

    As for the NHS, again, I don't have answers to how to overhaul the entire system to make it better, but I would certainly introduce a deposit based system and privatise a lot of the 'non-emergency' practises. Currently, whenever you call in to book an appointment with your GP or whatever, you cost the NHS a minimum of £115 (lighting, doctor p/hr wages, nurse p/hr wages etc.). Since the NHS is free, people don't care if they miss their appointments. Old people also often come in for a quick chat and it's all a bloody waste of time, money and incredibly inefficient. A deposit based system, e.g. if you want to book an appointment you have to give a deposit of £20, will filter out all the people who want to exploit the NHS and also ensures that the NHS gets money if someone DOES miss their appointment. Now if someone does show up the appointment, then they can have their £20 back (or potentially most of it).

    This deposit based system doesn't have to only be appointments. It can be employed across the entire NHS and help drastically reduce costs and increase efficiency.
    And on another note: what’s your thoughts on legalising handguns? It’s another thing where libertarians are split and elsewhere on TSR we’re discussing the pros and cons of legalising personal handguns ( we sort of set it up like we’re in a pretend parliament) and reducing the amount of benefits and merging some has received a surprising amount of support (to the point where it’s plausible one could lower taxes). I suppose that’s sort of on the lines of your beliefs anyway
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    And on another note: what’s your thoughts on legalising handguns? It’s another thing where libertarians are split and elsewhere on TSR we’re discussing the pros and cons of legalising personal handguns ( we sort of set it up like we’re in a pretend parliament) and reducing the amount of benefits and merging some has received a surprising amount of support (to the point where it’s plausible one could lower taxes). I suppose that’s sort of on the lines of your beliefs anyway
    One of the thinks UK Libertarians try to do, and I often internally hate, is try and be too much like American Libertarians. The UK and the US are two different countries, and the topic of guns falls under a vastly different chamber of debate when concerning each one.

    In short, I think it's stupid to outlaw guns in America due to the practical difficulties, the infringement of rights and economic disincentive.

    I think it's almost equally stupid to introduce guns into the UK.

    What is your view on guns? Legalised or kept how they are?
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    (Original post by Kenneth56)
    I am on the right on most things - economy, small state, low welfare... though I do believe in a nationalised railway & utilities distribution and I would be happy with the NHS if it could stop wasting so much of our money.

    I also believe in a socialised funeral service. I don't know why the Labour Party hasn't thought of that.

    I think the BBC is the greatest danger to the UK and should be a subscription-only service and not the current licence fee where you have to pay it even if you watch other channels.
    Same as me. But, I too, want a nationalised railway. Doubt it will ever happen but hey ho.
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    (Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
    One of the thinks UK Libertarians try to do, and I often internally hate, is try and be too much like American Libertarians. The UK and the US are two different countries, and the topic of guns falls under a vastly different chamber of debate when concerning each one.

    In short, I think it's stupid to outlaw guns in America due to the practical difficulties, the infringement of rights and economic disincentive.

    I think it's almost equally stupid to introduce guns into the UK.

    What is your view on guns? Legalised or kept how they are?
    I would like to reintroduce them myself personally. I think the measures introduced in 1997 were too extreme and were basically reactionary to the attack on a primary school earlier on. Stats have shown that criminalising handguns did nothing to the crime rates, and I think that their reintroduction would benefit us economically. I anticipate that there is certainly a legitimate market for it ( the fellow libertarians I’ve interacted with on site certainly may be more ideologically inclined here though)
    That being said American Libertarianism is certainly one that wouldn’t work here, and a mix of old and new is needed to ensure that economic and civil liberties can be obtained and maintained
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    (Original post by DeBruyne18)
    Left wing libertarian
    there's no such thing, whether it's recognised as a thing or not. it shouldn't be because it's a paradox and therefore there's no such thing.
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    rightwing classical liberal/libertarian with, let's say strong views on some cultural things.
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    (Original post by CollectiveSoul)
    rightwing classical liberal/libertarian with, let's say strong views on some cultural things.
    Strong cultural views interests me? Could you elaborate and do you think they contradict the core pursuit of freedom?
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    Strong cultural views interests me? Could you elaborate and do you think they contradict the core pursuit of freedom?
    yes, i have thought about this.

    inhabitants of a country or community should have the freedom for their society to be shaped in the way that they wish. the granting of freedom can be conditional on membership
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    (Original post by CollectiveSoul)
    there's no such thing, whether it's recognised as a thing or not. it shouldn't be because it's a paradox and therefore there's no such thing.
    Yes there is.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism

    Libertarianism was an ideology of the left originally, not the right.
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    I am centre-left.

    Socially, I believe in egalitarianism and everyone having the democratic right to express their beliefs and views.

    I don't really know much about economics that I can have a view on it. However, I do support having a welfare state but not simply giving out handouts without trying to empower people to fix their lives.

    I don't see myself as completely left-wing because I strongly disagree with communism and anarchism. Both theories, I feel, crushes individuality and leads to tyrannical states with no freedoms for people.

    I also disagree with how both anarchism and communism wants to suppress all forms of religious expressions. This is undemocratic and simply oppressive.

    I support capitalism because it allows a person to work their way to success.
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    (Original post by CollectiveSoul)
    yes, i have thought about this.

    inhabitants of a country or community should have the freedom for their society to be shaped in the way that they wish. the granting of freedom can be conditional on membership
    Interesting that says to me that you’d want tough immigration laws? My question for you then is do you believe this is compatible with the free market and how free should the market be to ensure the freedom and prosperity for everyone? ( please tell me if I’m making leaps in logic)
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    Interesting that says to me that you’d want tough immigration laws? My question for you then is do you believe this is compatible with the free market and how free should the market be to ensure the freedom and prosperity for everyone? ( please tell me if I’m making leaps in logic)
    because freedom should be a privilege of citizenship (democratically obtained) rather than a human right that we somehow 'owe' to people from other countries. we don't owe them any freedoms other than morally, to leave them alone.

    and if you want to know what i mean by democratically obtained, here is a wonderful, if not slightly OTT example http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7712836.html
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    I would like to reintroduce them myself personally. I think the measures introduced in 1997 were too extreme and were basically reactionary to the attack on a primary school earlier on. Stats have shown that criminalising handguns did nothing to the crime rates, and I think that their reintroduction would benefit us economically. I anticipate that there is certainly a legitimate market for it ( the fellow libertarians I’ve interacted with on site certainly may be more ideologically inclined here though)
    That being said American Libertarianism is certainly one that wouldn’t work here, and a mix of old and new is needed to ensure that economic and civil liberties can be obtained and maintained
    Fair enough. I personally just see no apparent NEED for them. In America, a massive country, some people just can't get a quick response from emergency services. Those living in rural areas NEED guns to protect themselves. That's just not the case here. Nor do we have insane wildlife problems.

    What other libertarians beliefs do you hold? What's your view on education?
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    (Original post by constantine2016)
    I am centre-left.

    Socially, I believe in egalitarianism and everyone having the democratic right to express their beliefs and views.

    I don't really know much about economics that I can have a view on it. However, I do support having a welfare state but not simply giving out handouts without trying to empower people to fix their lives.

    I don't see myself as completely left-wing because I strongly disagree with communism and anarchism. Both theories, I feel, crushes individuality and leads to tyrannical states with no freedoms for people.

    I also disagree with how both anarchism and communism wants to suppress all forms of religious expressions. This is undemocratic and simply oppressive.

    I support capitalism because it allows a person to work their way to success.
    Communism is a very far left wing ideology. Honestly, if you believe in a welfare state and egalitarianism, I'd say that automatically poises you into a very VERY comfortable left-wing territory. Your views don't seem to centre-left, but then again, I've not heard all of them so I may be wrong. Hell, you could turn out to be pro-life, but I doubt that.
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    centre-right, pro-EU strongly dislike Corbyn and May. Guess I'd be best placed with the lib dems or moderate tories like Anna Soubry.
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    (Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
    Fair enough. I personally just see no apparent NEED for them. In America, a massive country, some people just can't get a quick response from emergency services. Those living in rural areas NEED guns to protect themselves. That's just not the case here. Nor do we have insane wildlife problems.

    What other libertarians beliefs do you hold? What's your view on education?
    It would come as much of a surprise that I support Drug legalisation ( over at the other sub forums, we’ve come to a consensus that legalising class B drugs is good) and should we ever want to legalise class A drugs, there would need regulations initially ( though I’d like to phase out the “sin taxes”)
    Inheritance tax in general is a nonsensical tax that does nothing to really help the economy and charges tax on assets that already have been taxed before. That should go.
    I think to improve social mobility and to give people a better choice of education, grammars should be extended. I think there will always be a need for state schools, but something like Grammars ensures that parents have the choice and rewards someone for their merit. That being said, for Grammars to properly work, the 11+ must be reformed, it’s not a test that favours ability too well and should be something that is more accessible ( I don’t agree with tuition but it’s a service that has its market) . The biggest thing I’d change is the abolishment of KS1 and KS2 SATs. They do nothing to determine the ability of a child, most secondaries don’t trust its results and is quite frankly unnecessary. (Interestingly enough, the ‘government’ of that thread, a conservative-Liberal -UKIP coalition is also committed to doing this)
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