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    (Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
    Yellow pages wouldn't have even existed without the government. Let alone government assistance, they owe their entire existance to the government.
    Like most companies then who benefit from the many small business tax exemptions at startup phase.

    But no, I mean much later after government assistance had been withdrawn and the company operated privately with a monopoly in the UK.
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    (Original post by Lola<3)
    I go to an all girls school, so then environment is very pro feminism and pro left. I am centre, however would never admit it otherwise I would be hunted down.
    I am very open and believe that both the left and the right have good ideas and have to exist together for society to truly work. HOWEVER I refuse to feed into identity politics and giving people oppression points. They believe a persons worth is based on how 'oppressed' they are, not on how much they contribute to society.
    More people like you please
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    I’d say I’m centre-left socially - I believe in live and let live for the most part but am completely against people pushing agendas and forcing people to abide by their ‘rules’ - huge on liberty.

    Economically right-wing - I believe that the free market doesn’t discriminate and can be used to grow and be successful by anyone who makes good decisions. I am also a believer in competition but this obviously must sometimes be regulated.
    Small government too - they’re useless at almost everything
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    Emmanuel Macron is centre and is becoming a damn good french president let me tell you.
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    (Original post by MDesfontaine)
    Emmanuel Macron is centre and is becoming a damn good french president let me tell you.
    Would have to agree with you here - if the British system was different I think I could be the best EMan Macron!
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    (Original post by Vapormax)
    Would have to agree with you here - if the British system was different I think I could be the best EMan Macron!
    If youre as cute as him you have my vote by defauly xD I joke but he is one of those presidents who will do what he said he was going to as well as reforming the people who help deicde our laws is just amazing
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    (Original post by MDesfontaine)
    If youre as cute as him you have my vote by defauly xD I joke but he is one of those presidents who will do what he said he was going to as well as reforming the people who help deicde our laws is just amazing
    I like the French presidential system as people really get behind someone who can do a job! I think we need a new party with Conservative Economic policy and liberal social policies and pick up the labour people who are not far left corbynites and people who don’t like what the tory’s have become!! (Most of the country)
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    (Original post by Vapormax)
    I like the French presidential system as people really get behind someone who can do a job! I think we need a new party with Conservative Economic policy and liberal social policies and pick up the labour people who are not far left corbynites and people who don’t like what the tory’s have become!! (Most of the country)
    I think a lot of countries need a reform. The english system is outdated and basically works in the same backwards way that the Electoral College does and publicity is not given fairly to all parties. and the Queen does nothing.
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    (Original post by Vapormax)
    I’d say I’m centre-left socially - I believe in live and let live for the most part but am completely against people pushing agendas and forcing people to abide by their ‘rules’ - huge on liberty.

    Economically right-wing - I believe that the free market doesn’t discriminate and can be used to grow and be successful by anyone who makes good decisions. I am also a believer in competition but this obviously must sometimes be regulated.
    Small government too - they’re useless at almost everything
    Hmm, how much would you want privatised?
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    (Original post by MDesfontaine)
    Emmanuel Macron is centre and is becoming a damn good french president let me tell you.
    It’s odd, I definitely don’t think he’d maintain any popularity in the long run. The French only voted for him to oppose Le Pen, and whilst Le Pen had a mix of both right and left wing ideas... she didn’t have a coherent plan. Macron’s style to government seems to be trying to please everyone with the most middle ground things as possible, which ends up not pleasing anyone. I don’t think his policies are stable enough to keep him going and he will lose support simply because he’s thinking “what will please the most people “ instead of “what will benefit the country the most”
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    It’s odd, I definitely don’t think he’d maintain any popularity in the long run. The French only voted for him to oppose Le Pen, and whilst Le Pen had a mix of both right and left wing ideas... she didn’t have a coherent plan. Macron’s style to government seems to be trying to please everyone with the most middle ground things as possible, which ends up not pleasing anyone. I don’t think his policies are stable enough to keep him going and he will lose support simply because he’s thinking “what will please the most people “ instead of “what will benefit the country the most”
    Me and most of my family loved Macron, and France isnt like the British or American systems, we had 10 candidates to start off with and the first round came through and then we had 5, the system also isnt unbalanced so that only 2 have preferencial voting
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    (Original post by Reue)
    Like most companies then who benefit from the many small business tax exemptions at startup phase.

    But no, I mean much later after government assistance had been withdrawn and the company operated privately with a monopoly in the UK.
    They wouldn't have had their monopoly if the UK government hadn't helped them. Thats precisely my point.
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    (Original post by MDesfontaine)
    Me and most of my family loved Macron, and France isnt like the British or American systems, we had 10 candidates to start off with and the first round came through and then we had 5, the system also isnt unbalanced so that only 2 have preferencial voting
    I’m quite aware of the French system, it’s just that stats that I’ve seen thus far seem to suggest the vast majority of French people are indifferent on Macrons policies and don’t seem to agree on being the literal middle ground. Yes in a field of quite horrible candidates, he was the only decent one but I can’t say that his way of government will prove to be popular in the long run. I anticipate this may very well be a one trick pony of sorts in French politics, and when French parties are filled with very disconnected politicians, Macron isn’t the change that everyone will hope he will be
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    (Original post by CountBrandenburg)
    I’m quite aware of the French system, it’s just that stats that I’ve seen thus far seem to suggest the vast majority of French people are indifferent on Macrons policies and don’t seem to agree on being the literal middle ground. Yes in a field of quite horrible candidates, he was the only decent one but I can’t say that his way of government will prove to be popular in the long run. I anticipate this may very well be a one trick pony of sorts in French politics, and when French parties are filled with very disconnected politicians, Macron isn’t the change that everyone will hope he will be
    He doesnt just do people pleasing policies though even as we speak he has launched stricter Migrant Laws and unleashed 500 policemen on eco protesters. Honestly indifference in France for me is good because it's usually disdain and constant political mockery
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    (Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
    They wouldn't have had their monopoly if the UK government hadn't helped them. Thats precisely my point.
    They held a monopoly long after the government stopped helping. Indeed the competition commission was actively working against them for years.
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    (Original post by Reue)
    They held a monopoly long after the government stopped helping. Indeed the competition commission was actively working against them for years.
    Jesus, I dont know how I can make this any clearer.

    * Monopolies usually derive from government assistance

    * If governments helped yellow pages get started and get big - this is assistance

    * The fact that the government stopped helped in completely irrelevant.

    * It's like saying you don't owe your parents anything just after you've turned 18

    We're done here.
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    (Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
    * It's like saying you don't owe your parents anything just after you've turned 18
    Lol, you don't

    (Original post by HighOnGoofballs)
    We're done here.
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    Centre-right liberal or what Americans and Anglos in general call "libertarian". I prefer liberal or maybe classical liberal if liberal's too confusing for kids these days.

    I am not an anarcho-capitalist or minarchist. I'm in favour of social insurance - socialised health insurance and some unemployment benefits. Most likely not state education though.

    And I am not triumphalist about those state programmes I'd support (I'm a "philosophical anarchist"). If you hear social democrats talk about the NHS or unemployment benefits, you'd think they speak of semi-divine institutions established by St Paul. It's ridiculous. I recognise how flawed and inhuman bureaucracies can be and would actively seek non-state, voluntarist solutions to problems like unemployment and sickness. I am not sure there are any but I don't take the Panglossian leftie belief that the NHS, with year-long waiting lines for a lot of people, is somehow Britain's jewel. And I certainly don't take welfare moms and teenage pregnancies to be the result of "capitalist relations" or w/e. Those things are going to be with us no matter what.
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    I myself am center-right.

    On issues like infrastructure and where's it's not electorally viable to have the private sector stand alone i have quite a One Nation streak and rate the likes of MacMillan very highly. On tax and spend you all know me to be pretty Thatcherite and i can't wait to buy shares in the BBC once privatised (as with Royal Mail there's no reason to have a controlling stake in a firm which exists in a competitive sector). On issues like immigration and prostitution, i have a pretty libertarian streak preferring selectively lax borders to the rhetoric we see elsewhere. On asylum, foreign policy and defense though i am as hard right as they come.
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    Left wing libertarian.
 
 
 
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