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Florida students are planning to march on Washington.
"To every politician who is taking donations from the NRA - shame on you!" - Emma Gonzalez, who lay on the floor taking cover during the massacre.
There is a definite wave against the public sale of these deadly weapons, the sole purpose of which can only be to either intimidate or murder human beings. The sole motivation of their sellers is profit and the politicians are doing nothing. Trump is blaming everyone but the NRA-funded Republicans who block change in the Congress.
"We are losing our lives while the adults are playing around," - Cameron Kasky, another survivor of the massacre.
Let's give these students every support we can.
Florida students are planning to march on Washington.
"To every politician who is taking donations from the NRA - shame on you!" - Emma Gonzalez, who lay on the floor taking cover during the massacre.
There is a definite wave against the public sale of these deadly weapons, the sole purpose of which can only be to either intimidate or murder human beings. The sole motivation of their sellers is profit and the politicians are doing nothing. Trump is blaming everyone but the NRA-funded Republicans who block change in the Congress.
"We are losing our lives while the adults are playing around," - Cameron Kasky, another survivor of the massacre.
Let's give these students every support we can.

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Very positive to see - I hope it amounts to something, though sadly I don't expect it to for some time yet.
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(Original post by shadowdweller)
Very positive to see - I hope it amounts to something, though sadly I don't expect it to for some time yet.
Very positive to see - I hope it amounts to something, though sadly I don't expect it to for some time yet.
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(Original post by Dez)
Whilst the Republicans are in power nothing is going to change. Any new gun legislation would be shot down by Congress in a split second, and in the unlikely event any did get through the supreme court would probably just throw it out again. So long as the 2nd amendment stands no proper reform can be done, and the GOP would never dare touch the constitution in a billion years.
Whilst the Republicans are in power nothing is going to change. Any new gun legislation would be shot down by Congress in a split second, and in the unlikely event any did get through the supreme court would probably just throw it out again. So long as the 2nd amendment stands no proper reform can be done, and the GOP would never dare touch the constitution in a billion years.
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Food for them but wont achieve anything unless it was millions and all schools stopped. Unless they felt it would cost them signifiant votes, then they will easily ignore, but express weasel sympathy. You would need one of these school shootings every 1-3 weeks for them to take notice.
Focus has been diverted onto mentally ill people and blaming the FBI.
Focus has been diverted onto mentally ill people and blaming the FBI.
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(Original post by Fullofsurprises)
The 2nd ammendment is such a croc - any fool can see it referenced a war with Britain and not the supply of heavy weaponry to civilians so that they can work out their personality disorders on each other. What a bizarre court and public process America has.
The 2nd ammendment is such a croc - any fool can see it referenced a war with Britain and not the supply of heavy weaponry to civilians so that they can work out their personality disorders on each other. What a bizarre court and public process America has.
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That great, but protests are never taken seriously though so it really is just a waste.
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(Original post by Dez)
Quite so, and yet it's held sacred. Any party that tries to touch the constitution would be crucified by the media. It's basically a religion at this point I think.
Quite so, and yet it's held sacred. Any party that tries to touch the constitution would be crucified by the media. It's basically a religion at this point I think.

And like quite a few religions, it costs thousands of lives.
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(Original post by goggleyed)
That great, but protests are never taken seriously though so it really is just a waste.
That great, but protests are never taken seriously though so it really is just a waste.
Just to illustrate the power of protest (especially sustained protest), during the Vietnam War, President Johnson was urged at a meeting by his generals to nuke N. Vietnam. Johnson replied "I could and five minutes after I gave the order, I would be hung up by the demonstrators outside the White House."
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(Original post by copycat321)
Do you regard the media lying to you as something positive?
Do you regard the media lying to you as something positive?
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Guys offering 'thoughts and prayers' and no action while they go to school worrying if today is the day they'll get massacred.
Fair play to them
Fair play to them

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(Original post by copycat321)
Half of what you see on TV is a lie. There is no independent or investigative journalism. There are only 6 mainstream news corporations in America, and they all get their news from the same source.
Half of what you see on TV is a lie. There is no independent or investigative journalism. There are only 6 mainstream news corporations in America, and they all get their news from the same source.
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So this is a thing.
Public mass murder and the reaction is outrage, screaming, crying and demands for immediate action and that civil rights are secondary to protecting life.
Strange how the reaction in Europe is the opposite- that the correct response is a hashtag, a Facebook filter, prayer and immediate focus on preventing backlash and preserving civil rights at all costs.
Public mass murder and the reaction is outrage, screaming, crying and demands for immediate action and that civil rights are secondary to protecting life.
Strange how the reaction in Europe is the opposite- that the correct response is a hashtag, a Facebook filter, prayer and immediate focus on preventing backlash and preserving civil rights at all costs.
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(Original post by Trinculo)
So this is a thing.
Public mass murder and the reaction is outrage, screaming, crying and demands for immediate action and that civil rights are secondary to protecting life.
Strange how the reaction in Europe is the opposite- that the correct response is a hashtag, a Facebook filter, prayer and immediate focus on preventing backlash and preserving civil rights at all costs.
So this is a thing.
Public mass murder and the reaction is outrage, screaming, crying and demands for immediate action and that civil rights are secondary to protecting life.
Strange how the reaction in Europe is the opposite- that the correct response is a hashtag, a Facebook filter, prayer and immediate focus on preventing backlash and preserving civil rights at all costs.
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(Original post by Dez)
Well the main difference is that in Europe we don't recognise ownership of a deadly weapon for no purpose other than to kill or threaten other humans to be a "civil right".
Well the main difference is that in Europe we don't recognise ownership of a deadly weapon for no purpose other than to kill or threaten other humans to be a "civil right".
Moreover, the issue is the tone and themes of the climate - it's all about anger, and demands and "with us or against us", "blood on hands". Is this the way to go about things?
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(Original post by Trinculo)
It doesn't matter what we do, or some other European states do. That's irrelevant. The fact is that the US has a Constitutional right to these weapons. Do you believe that the safety of the public (from mass murder) is more important than the preservation of the civil liberties of the overwhelming majority of gun owners who are not murderers?
It doesn't matter what we do, or some other European states do. That's irrelevant. The fact is that the US has a Constitutional right to these weapons. Do you believe that the safety of the public (from mass murder) is more important than the preservation of the civil liberties of the overwhelming majority of gun owners who are not murderers?
(Original post by Trinculo)
Moreover, the issue is the tone and themes of the climate - it's all about anger, and demands and "with us or against us", "blood on hands". Is this the way to go about things?
Moreover, the issue is the tone and themes of the climate - it's all about anger, and demands and "with us or against us", "blood on hands". Is this the way to go about things?
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I certainly wish them well but I can't see the GOP, especially under President Trump, creating any kind of meaningful firearms regulation legislation. Their supporter base & the NRA are just to entrenched on this issue.
President Obama couldn't even get meaningful reform after the Sandy Hook incident.
President Obama couldn't even get meaningful reform after the Sandy Hook incident.
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