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Just wondering how impossible higher training (ST3+) in anaesthetics and intensive care is to get into? I’ve just got into core training and was looking at the higher training self assessment score out of interest, does one need research and publications and masters degrees and extra post grad exams and so on to get a post?? Just scared myself into thinking I could potentially not be able to get a training post after core unless I spend every minute of the next two years doing application related stuff! Would be great to hear from some trainees :-)
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Just wondering how impossible higher training (ST3+) in anaesthetics and intensive care is to get into? I’ve just got into core training and was looking at the higher training self assessment score out of interest, does one need research and publications and masters degrees and extra post grad exams and so on to get a post?? Just scared myself into thinking I could potentially not be able to get a training post after core unless I spend every minute of the next two years doing application related stuff! Would be great to hear from some trainees :-)
Not impossible at all. As ecolier says, the ratios aren't that high - they set CT places with the number of ST places in mind to try to avoid a bottleneck. London was actually undersubscribed the year I applied (2014) for ST3!

If you have any non-anaesthetic postgrad exams it gets you a few points but I wouldn't start trying them now if you haven't already achieved it. Getting the Primary FRCA safely is by far the biggest stumbling block. Obviously there will be opportunities to get involved in QIPs and teaching during your jobs, plus possibly research. You might want to consider doing some of the relevant courses like ATLS, APLS etc, which is a better use of your money than doing other exams!
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Not impossible at all. As ecolier says, the ratios aren't that high - they set CT places with the number of ST places in mind to try to avoid a bottleneck. London was actually undersubscribed the year I applied (2014) for ST3!

If you have any non-anaesthetic postgrad exams it gets you a few points but I wouldn't start trying them now if you haven't already achieved it. Getting the Primary FRCA safely is by far the biggest stumbling block. Obviously there will be opportunities to get involved in QIPs and teaching during your jobs, plus possibly research. You might want to consider doing some of the relevant courses like ATLS, APLS etc, which is a better use of your money than doing other exams!
Thank you, that’s really useful. Definitely planning on doing some of those courses. How necessary would research and publications be in your opinion? I guess I want to allow some family/other stuff time and not have to do things constantly for application purposes.
Is it worth looking at a MSc or MRes degree? Also I’m assuming trying to do a part time degree while doing core training and studying for FRCA would be a bit insane!
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Thank you, that’s really useful. Definitely planning on doing some of those courses. How necessary would research and publications be in your opinion? I guess I want to allow some family/other stuff time and not have to do things constantly for application purposes.
Is it worth looking at a MSc or MRes degree? Also I’m assuming trying to do a part time degree while doing core training and studying for FRCA would be a bit insane!
I'm sure people have done it, but it would be very very hard!

The criteria have changed since I applied, but I got into Oxford (one of the most competitive deaneries) with no publications and only a small amount of research (re. other bits of the application, just for comparison, I have a 2:1 intercalated degree, got a prize but no distinction at med school and had a poster presented at an international meeting). Obviously take any opportunities you come across though!
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