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    we all know of gods like Milo, Gavin and Ben who roast the sjw scum of the earth, but in all seriousness, is their actually a reason why right and central advocates just argue better than far lefties and feminists?
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    (Original post by Scorpian_1)
    we all know of gods like Milo, Gavin and Ben who roast the sjw scum of the earth, but in all seriousness, is their actually a reason why right and central advocates just argue better than far lefties and feminists?
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    This is a really good question. Couple suggestions:

    One, its very hard to justify falsehoods. Its very hard to defend something that is as indefensible and fragile as feminism without resorting to secrecy, abuse, deception and censorship and those are the main weapons of this ideology....

    Two, its very hard to make good arguments in favour of feminism when you know nothing about feminism and this applies to nearly all feminists. I've never come across a single feminist who knows anything about feminism besides its exoteric generalities "equality"...lol When I present them with its esoteric doctrine they go into shock. They cannot believe that feminism's ideology is so rotten and so wrong. So why do they subscribe to this ideology when they are so ignorant of its teachings? because it confers privileges on them. It offers them incentives, money and power without merit being two examples of such privileges.

    I've never, ever come across a single feminist that has dared enter a debate and not become totally obliterated in the debate...They do not benefit from exposure nor debate. They follow a fragile ideology that is their key not to fairness in society but to power and control. They could care less about debate. They want power and debate exposes them and their ideology for what it really is. So they avoid it. They focus their powers on pulling strings from the background...on changing society through deception and manipulation....and they start brainwashing people young when their brains are still malleable such that they grow up not knowing anything better than feminism and refusing to accept any other interpretation of life.

    Feminism as an ideology has all the traits of an evil one that knows its evil.
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    This is a really good question. Couple suggestions:

    One, its very hard to justify falsehoods. Its very hard to defend something that is as indefensible and fragile as feminism without resorting to secrecy, abuse, deception and censorship and those are the main weapons of this ideology....

    Two, its very hard to make good arguments in favour of feminism when you know nothing about feminism and this applies to nearly all feminists. I've never come across a single feminist who knows anything about feminism besides its exoteric generalities "equality"...lol When I present them with its esoteric doctrine they go into shock. They cannot believe that feminism's ideology is so rotten and so wrong. So why do they subscribe to this ideology when they are so ignorant of its teachings? because it confers privileges on them. It offers them incentives, money and power without merit being two examples of such privileges.

    I've never, ever come across a single feminist that has dared enter a debate and not be become totally obliterated in the debate...They do not benefit from exposure nor debate. They follow a fragile ideology that is their key not fairness in society but power and control. They could care less about debate. They want power and debate exposes them and their ideology for what it really is. So they avoid. They focus their powers on pulling strings from the background...on changing society through deception and manipulation....and they start brainwashing people young when their brains are still malleable such that they grow up not knowing anything better than feminism and refusing to accept any other interpretation of life.

    Feminism as an ideology has all the traits of an evil one that knows its evil.
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    (Original post by CookieButter)
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    One, its very hard to justify falsehoods. Its very hard to defend something that is as indefensible and fragile as feminism without resorting to secrecy, abuse, deception and censorship and those are the main weapons of this ideology....
    I think this sentence perfectly. Those against equality of any form be it racism or feminism are generally those who have never been victims of inequality. This puts them in what the believe is a strong position to deny that inequality is a thing. Yet if even for one moment they believe they are being discriminated against as equality brews they are first to shout about political correctness and liberal lefties.

    The argument against inequality is akin to the religeous argument against evolution where it is degraded to a mere theory whilst ignoring the mountain of evidence.
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    (Original post by CookieButter)
    +1

    This is a really good question. Couple suggestions:

    One, its very hard to justify falsehoods. Its very hard to defend something that is as indefensible and fragile as feminism without resorting to secrecy, abuse, deception and censorship and those are the main weapons of this ideology....

    Two, its very hard to make good arguments in favour of feminism when you know nothing about feminism and this applies to nearly all feminists. I've never come across a single feminist who knows anything about feminism besides its exoteric generalities "equality"...lol When I present them with its esoteric doctrine they go into shock. They cannot believe that feminism's ideology is so rotten and so wrong. So why do they subscribe to this ideology when they are so ignorant of its teachings? because it confers privileges on them. It offers them incentives, money and power without merit being two examples of such privileges.

    I've never, ever come across a single feminist that has dared enter a debate and not be become totally obliterated in the debate...They do not benefit from exposure nor debate. They follow a fragile ideology that is their key not to fairness in society but to power and control. They could care less about debate. They want power and debate exposes them and their ideology for what it really is. So they avoid it. They focus their powers on pulling strings from the background...on changing society through deception and manipulation....and they start brainwashing people young when their brains are still malleable such that they grow up not knowing anything better than feminism and refusing to accept any other interpretation of life.

    Feminism as an ideology has all the traits of an evil one that knows its evil.
    Feminism is just about equality, so why could you possibly be against that? Don’t belittle people like that.
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    (Original post by CookieButter)
    I've never come across a single feminist who knows anything about feminism besides its exoteric generalities "equality"...lol
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    Feminism is just about equality, so why could you possibly be against that? Don’t belittle people like that.
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    lol...
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    (Original post by Scorpian_1)
    we all know of gods like Milo, Gavin and Ben who roast the sjw scum of the earth, but in all seriousness, is their actually a reason why right and central advocates just argue better than far lefties and feminists?
    These aren't often feminists you see on youtube compilations.

    they're misandrists

    Often, the basis of their argument is false, which means their chance to win becomes naught.

    Whether or not the left argues better or not is up for debate; Milo routinely gets schooled by left wing scientists

    and so do many republicans on Bill Maher

    but so do a lot of liberals on Tucker Carlson's show

    Basis of argument matters a lot

    I mean, Emma Watson might be the leading feminist in the world, but you haven't seen her spewing any man hate or matter of that nature have you?
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    Milo, Gavin and Ben cannot argue for ****. They deliberately learn fallacies and use them knowing that the average person will not know such as the "no true scotsman" fallacy, then try to trigger an emotional response as a last ditch attempt to "own the libtards".

    It says a lot about you if you take them seriously.
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    (Original post by Wilfred Little)
    I didn’t need to explain the ins and outs of feminism, I just said how could you possibly be against women and men having the same opportunities.
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    (Original post by Scorpian_1)
    we all know of gods like Milo, Gavin and Ben who roast the sjw scum of the earth, but in all seriousness, is their actually a reason why right and central advocates just argue better than far lefties and feminists?
    They can't argue for ****! They initially started with decent arguments, then descended into the MRA's back slapping internet hobo movement.

    When Compared to Jordan Peterson, Erin Prizzy, Christina Hoff Sommers, Warren Farrell, Karen Straughan and Janice Fiamengo, they're just bullies and thugs. It's for that precise reason the Anti-Feminist movement has yet again been seen as women hating and right wing, despite it originally starting as a Centrist movement with both left and right leanings depending on the speaker.

    In effect they have undermined their own cause! When we started it was about academic feminisms dishonesty, political feminisms corruption and public feminisms sexist misapprehensions. Now it's transformed into right wing bulling of anyone who disagree's with them.

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    I mean, Emma Watson might be the leading feminist in the world, but you haven't seen her spewing any man hate or matter of that nature have you?
    I also have never heard her say anything relevant to modern feminism or a theory that couldn't be taken out of a GCSE textbook. Her actually knowledge on the subject about equality is at Anita Sarkeesian's level. They both use theories long since abandoned and replaced, even by said theories original creators and actually say some pretty sexist things. You can't criticise either in the public sphere, albeit Anita is extremely toxic when compared to Emma Watson.

    Emma Watson means well and uses her influence, she just lacks basic academic knowledge. Anita by comparisons should and, in fact, does know better, she is part of the Main problem with modern feminism.
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    I mean, they won a pretty big argument in the 1920's, might wanna look into that one
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    (Original post by DanB1991)
    They can't argue for ****! They initially started with decent arguments, then descended into the MRA's back slapping internet hobo movement.

    When Compared to Jordan Peterson, Erin Prizzy, Christina Hoff Sommers, Warren Farrell, Karen Straughan and Janice Fiamengo, they're just bullies and thugs. It's for that precise reason the Anti-Feminist movement has yet again been seen as women hating and right wing, despite it originally starting as a Centrist movement with both left and right leanings depending on the speaker.

    In effect they have undermined their own cause! When we started it was about academic feminisms dishonesty, political feminisms corruption and public feminisms sexist misapprehensions. Now it's transformed into right wing bulling of anyone who disagree's with them.



    I also have never heard her say anything relevant to modern feminism or a theory that couldn't be taken out of a GCSE textbook. Her actually knowledge on the subject about equality is at Anita Sarkeesian's level. They both use theories long since abandoned and replaced, even by said theories original creators and actually say some pretty sexist things. You can't criticise either in the public sphere, albeit Anita is extremely toxic when compared to Emma Watson.

    Emma Watson means well and uses her influence, she just lacks basic academic knowledge. Anita by comparisons should and, in fact, does know better, she is part of the Main problem with modern feminism.
    I wouldn't say she lacks academic knowledge; she did study at Brown and Oxford; perhaps she just lacks the means to use it properly.

    Michelle Obama is a particularly good one; she also certainly doesn't lack academic knowledge
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    (Original post by Kyber Ninja)
    Emma Watson might be the leading feminist in the world
    Good god almighty.

    Emma Watson is not a leading feminist. She's not an authority in feminism. She's a famous follower of the ideology. Top feminists are those people who are an authority in feminism. People who help form and shape feminist theory and its teachings not those who follow its teachings.

    The biggest authority in feminism was and still is a woman called Simone De Beauvoir; a child molester, a paeodpile, a rapist, an incestophile, a racist, a nazi collaborator, a woman beater, a false rape accuser etc etc. Simone practically created feminism. She created the idea of the patriarchy and her book "The Second Sex" is called the bible of feminism by feminists.

    Germaine Greer is another example of a "leading feminist". She is a self-described pioneer of feminism and she was one of the founders of the most famous feminist organisations in the world, the NOW (national organisation for women). She recently published a book encouraging women to enjoy nude pictures of underage boys parroting the same pro-paedophilia logic of Simone. A book filled with semi-nude and sexually provocative pictures of underage boys called "The Beautiful Boy". In the book she argues that denying women their "right" to sexually enjoy nude children is sexism. This same "pioneer of feminism" claims that women have superior cultural values to men and that seduction between men and women is rape. She also calls cheating on your partner rape. Side note: she is known for her marriage to James Hughes having lasted only 3 weeks after she cheated on him with Martin Armis, whom she sent over 30 thousand love letters whilst she was in relationship with Hughes. She admitted that she cheated and was divorced. So by her own definition this woman is a rapist. These are the pioneers of mainstream feminism.

    Another pioneer of feminism is Jill Johnston. She is friend of Germaine Greer. She created the feminist separatist movement, encouraging the total conversion of all women to lesbianism and the separation of women from men. Many feminists follow her separatist views today. She taught the idea that all women are born lesbians and converted by society into heterosexuals and that the solution to sexism is the reversion of all women to lesbianism and their total separation from men.

    Betty Friedan is another example of a pioneer of feminism. This woman together with Simone De Beauvoir argued the idea that motherhood and marriage are wrong and that women should be forced not to become mothers and wives to men.

    Kate Millet is another example of a top feminist. A woman who is described by feminists as being the "prime mover and shaker of the feminist movement"....She was a violent individual who escaped a mental asylum to join the feminist movement and go on to become one the biggest feminists in the world. She taught the idea that marriage is wrong, that the family must be destroyed, that men are inherently evil...She is well known for giving the following speech in the 60s. I highly recommend people read it for an insight into this depraved movement:

    Sitting around a table in a meeting of some of the most prominent feminist figures of the time. Kate said the following:

    "‘Why are we here today?’ she asked.
    ‘To make revolution,’ they answered.
    ‘What kind of revolution?’ she replied.
    ‘The Cultural Revolution,’ they chanted.
    ‘And how do we make Cultural Revolution?’ she demanded.
    ‘By destroying the American family!’ they answered.
    ‘How do we destroy the family?’ she came back.
    ‘By destroying the American Patriarch (men)’ they cried exuberantly.
    ‘And how do we destroy the American Patriarch?’ she replied.
    ‘By taking away his power!’
    ‘How do we do that?’
    ‘By destroying monogamy!’ they shouted.
    ‘How can we destroy monogamy?’
    ‘By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution and homosexuality!’ they resounded."

    You cannot even make this stuff up.

    These are examples of some of the most important women in feminism. Women who helped form feminist ideology; its theory, its concepts....and I can go on and on and on with more and more and more and more and more and more examples....Emma Watson is not a leading feminist. She is a leading follower of feminism. What she says and does is of no consequence to feminist theory.
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    Because they r always wrong and only want all men to die
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    (Original post by CookieButter)
    Good god almighty.

    Emma Watson is not a leading feminist. She's not an authority in feminism. She's a famous follower of the ideology. Top feminists are those people who are an authority in feminism. People who help form and shape feminist theory and its teachings not those who follow its teachings.

    The biggest authority in feminism was and still is a woman called Simone De Beauvoir; a child molester, a paeodpile, a rapist, an incestophile, a racist, a nazi collaborator, a woman beater, a false rape accuser etc etc. Simone practically created feminism. She created the idea of the patriarchy and her book "The Second Sex" is called the bible of feminism by feminists.

    Germaine Greer is another example of a "leading feminist". She is a self-described pioneer of feminism and she was one of the founders of the most famous feminist organisations in the world, the NOW (national organisation for women). She recently published a book encouraging women to enjoy nude pictures of underage boys parroting the same pro-paedophilia logic of Simone. A book filled with semi-nude and sexually provocative pictures of underage boys called "The Beautiful Boy". In the book she argues that denying women their "right" to sexually enjoy nude children is sexism. This same "pioneer of feminism" claims that women have superior cultural values to men and that seduction between men and women is rape. She also calls cheating on your partner rape. Side note: she is known for her marriage to James Hughes having lasted only 3 weeks after she cheated on him with Martin Armis, whom she sent over 30 thousand love letters whilst she was in relationship with Hughes. She admitted that she cheated and was divorced. So by her own definition this woman is a rapist. These are the pioneers of mainstream feminism.

    Another pioneer of feminism is Jill Johnston. She is friend of Germaine Greer. She created the feminist separatist movement, encouraging the total conversion of all women to lesbianism and the separation of women from men. Many feminists follow her separatist views today. She taught the idea that all women are born lesbians and converted by society into heterosexuals and that the solution to sexism is the reversion of all women to lesbianism and their total separation from men.

    Betty Friedan is another example of a pioneer of feminism. This woman together with Simone De Beauvoir argued the idea that motherhood and marriage are wrong and that women should be forced not to become mothers and wives to men.

    Kate Millet is another example of a top feminist. A woman who is described by feminists as being the "prime mover and shaker of the feminist movement"....She was a violent individual who escaped a mental asylum to join the feminist movement and go on to become one the biggest feminists in the world. She taught the idea that marriage is wrong, that the family must be destroyed, that men are inherently evil...She is well known for giving the following speech in the 60s. I highly recommend people read it for an insight into this depraved movement:

    Sitting around a table in a meeting of some of the most prominent feminist figures of the time. Kate said the following:

    "‘Why are we here today?’ she asked.
    ‘To make revolution,’ they answered.
    ‘What kind of revolution?’ she replied.
    ‘The Cultural Revolution,’ they chanted.
    ‘And how do we make Cultural Revolution?’ she demanded.
    ‘By destroying the American family!’ they answered.
    ‘How do we destroy the family?’ she came back.
    ‘By destroying the American Patriarch (men)’ they cried exuberantly.
    ‘And how do we destroy the American Patriarch?’ she replied.
    ‘By taking away his power!’
    ‘How do we do that?’
    ‘By destroying monogamy!’ they shouted.
    ‘How can we destroy monogamy?’
    ‘By promoting promiscuity, eroticism, prostitution and homosexuality!’ they resounded."

    You cannot even make this stuff.

    These are examples of some of the most important women in feminism. Women who helped form feminist ideology; its theory, its concepts....and I can go on and on and on with more and more and more and more and more and more examples....Emma Watson is not a leading feminist. She is a leading follower of feminism. What she says and does is of no consequence to feminist theory.
    with all due respect, how can these women be leading feminists when the average feminist hasn't even heard of them?

    Feminist theory is equal rights for men and women (definition). The technicalities of changing the theory are irrelevant when it doesn't need changing. She's a UN ambassador for women, so how is she not an authority in feminism? She's given plenty of speeches, plenty of tweets and interviews about empowering women.Why does it matter that what she's done hasn't changed feminism? Its helped women, thats the point.
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    (Original post by Kyber Ninja)
    with all due respect, how can these women be leading feminists when the average feminist hasn't even heard of them?
    The average feminist doesn't know anything about feminism. The good majority of feminists fall for this ideology's generalities without knowing anything about its core principles.

    Feminists who are educated in feminism know these women very well and hold them in high regard. Many streets, universities, colleges and organisations are named after Simone De Beauvoir. In fact if you go the US, feminist groups provide you with tours of her life. You pay them money and they take you around to the places that she visited when she went to the US. Kate Millet was inducted into the national women's hall of fame in the US in 2013 etc etc.

    (Original post by Kyber Ninja)
    Feminist theory is equal rights for men and women (definition).
    What you have said here is a lot like saying Albert Einstein's theory of relativity is about light. What does that tell me about the theory behind this concept of relativity? NOTHING. What you have written is not feminist theory but a generality that does not tell me anything about the theory of feminism.

    Feminism is based on 7 key principles each of which has its own theory.

    1. The Patriarchy - We live in a world run by a system created by men for men to subjugate and abuse women. This is identical to the views of nazis towards jews. Nazi ideology preaches that the world is run by a system created by jews for the beneficence of jews. This is why people call feminists feminazis. The two ideologies share a similar core concept...one is based on race the other on sex/gender. In one the enemy is the Jew in the other the enemy is man.

    2. The idea that gender is a social construct and heterosexuality is wrong - Feminism teaches its followers that there is no such thing as male or female. That we are all born androgynous (without sex) and that we are programmed by society to become male and female...and that part of this programming is heterosexuality. Feminism preaches that heterosexuality (they call it heteronormativity) is sexist and that the correct way of living life is being able to have sex with anyone of any gender and of any age. Feminism has since the early 60s campaigned for the legalisation of both paedophilia and incest.

    3. There are no gender roles - This is basically the idea that men and women do not have roles in life specific to their gender. That there is no such thing as mother or father....that these roles that people play in society are sexist concepts put in place by men to subjugate and enslave women under the patriarchy.

    4. The idea that the concept of a family is sexist and must be destroyed. Feminism believes in a world where there is no such thing as father and mother and child or marriage. That we should have sex with anyone and everyone without contracts and our offspring be looked after by anyone and everyone...they call this a "cooperative human community" and this community they believe should be based on "the free-flow of natural androgynous eroticism”...i.e. sex with anyone and everyone.

    5. The concept of "Sisterhood". This is a core principle in feminism that preaches the idea that women should unite against men and only through unity can achieve equality.

    6. The "Female way of knowing" - This is another core concept of feminist theory. Its the belief that women have a way of understanding the world that is superior to that of men.

    7. Othering - In feminism othering is a way by which men objectify women in this world and a way by which women can achieve equality by separatism (separating themselves from men to prevent men objectifying them).

    These are the core principles of feminist theory. This is just a basic brief outline. Volumes of books have been written about each and every single one of these principles.

    (Original post by Kyber Ninja)
    The technicalities of changing the theory are irrelevant when it doesn't need changing.
    What does this even mean?

    (Original post by Kyber Ninja)
    She's a UN ambassador for women, so how is she not an authority in feminism? She's given plenty of speeches, plenty of tweets and interviews about empowering women.Why does it matter that what she's done hasn't changed feminism? Its helped women, thats the point.
    That does not change anything. She remains a follower of feminism and not a pioneer of the ideology and its theory. I'm willing to bet you everything that I have that this woman does not know anything about feminism besides those same generalities that you know..."equality" and that is all....Ideologies are not defined by the actions of their followers but by their pioneers and their teachings, their theory!!!
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    (Original post by CookieButter)
    The average feminist doesn't know anything about feminism. The good majority of feminists fall for this ideology's generalities without knowing anything about its core theory..the theory behind the generalities.

    Feminists who are educated in feminism know these women very well and hold them in high regard. Many streets, universities, collages and organisations are named after Simone De Beauvoir. In fact if you go the US, feminist groups have tours of her life in the US. You pay them money and they take you around to the places that she visited when she went to the US. Kate Millet was inducted into the national women's hall of fame in the US in 2013 etc etc.



    What you have said here is a lot like saying Albert Einstein's theory of relativity is about light. What does that tell me about the theory behind this concept of relativity? NOTHING. What you have written is not feminist theory but a generality that does not tell me anything about the theory of feminism.

    Feminism is based on 7 key principles each of which has its own theory.

    1. The Patriarchy - We live in a world run by a system created by men for men to subjugate and abuse women. This is identical to the views of nazis towards jews. Nazi ideology preaches that the world is run by a system created by jews for the beneficence of jews. This is why people call feminists feminazis. The two ideologies share a similar core concept...one is based on race the other on sex/gender. In one the enemy is the Jew in the other the enemy is man.

    2. The idea that gender is a social construct and heterosexuality is wrong - Feminism teaches its followers that there is no such thing as male or female. That we are all born androgynous (without sex) and that we are programmed by society to become male and female...and that part of this programming is heterosexuality. Feminism preaches that heterosexuality (they call it heteronormativity) is sexist and that the correct way of living life is being able to have sex with anyone of any gender and of any age. Feminism has since the early 60s campaigned for the legalisation of both paedophilia and incest.

    3. There are no gender roles - This is basically the idea that men and women do not have roles in life specific to their gender. That there is no such thing as mother or father....that these roles that people play in society are sexist concepts put in place by men to subjugate and enslave women under the patriarchy.

    4. The idea that the concept of a family is sexist and must be destroyed. Feminism believes in a world where there is no such thing as father and mother and child or marriage. That we should have sex with anyone and everyone without contracts and our offspring be looked after by anyone and everyone...they call this a "cooperative human community" and this community they believe should be based on "the free-flow of natural androgynous eroticism”...i.e. sex with anyone and everyone.

    5. The concept of "Sisterhood". This is a core principle in feminism that preaches the idea that women should unite against men and only through unity can achieve equality.

    6. The "Female way of knowing" - This is another core concept of feminist theory. Its the belief that women have a way of understanding the world that is superior to that of men.

    7. Othering - In feminism othering is a way by which men objectify women in this world and a way by which women can achieve equality by separatism (separating themselves from men to prevent men objectifying them).

    These are the core principles of feminist theory. This is just a basic brief outline. Volumes of books have been written about each and every single one of these principles.



    What does this even mean?



    That does not change anything. She remains a follower of feminism and not a pioneer of the ideology and its theory. I'm willing to bet you everything that I have that this woman does not know anything about feminism besides those same generalities that you know..."equality" and that is all....Ideologies are not defined by the actions of their followers but by their pioneers and their teachings, their theory!!!
    Evidentially, you're very knowledgeable on this field, so I'm not gonna argue it. All I'm saying is that Emma Watson has helped, even if she may not be fully aware of the philosophy regarding feminism, women still feel empowered by her - even by her generalities.
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    (Original post by Kyber Ninja)
    Evidentially, you're very knowledgeable on this field, so I'm not gonna argue it. All I'm saying is that Emma Watson has helped, even if she may not be fully aware of the philosophy regarding feminism, women still feel empowered by her - even by her generalities.
    How would you feel if I said KKK grand wizard David Duke is good cause he's helping empower white people. You would call me a racist and you would be right in calling me that. What you wrote is similarly sexist.

    Now, this woman out of ignorance or greed or both has chosen to to provide a platform for and promote a sexist, flawed ideology. Namely, feminism. Nothing good can come from this to anyone.

    I know that feminists use a similar strategy to scientologists in that they approach all women who become popular and only women and offer them incentives, movie roles, publicity in return for joining and promoting feminism. Often they are successful in recruiting famous women but sometimes they fail...and I love it when they fail. A good example of a woman that they failed to recruit is Ronda Rousey. Watch and listen:

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    (Original post by CookieButter)
    How would you feel if I said KKK grand wizard David Duke is good cause he's helping empower white people. You would call me a racist and you would be right in calling me that. What you wrote is similarly sexist.

    Now, this woman out of ignorance or greed or both has chosen to to provide a platform for and promote a sexist, flawed ideology. Namely, feminism. Nothing good can come from this to anyone.

    I know that feminists use a similar strategy to scientologists in that they approach all women who become popular and only women and offer them incentives, movie roles, publicity in return for joining and promoting feminism. Often they are successful in recruiting famous women but sometimes they fail...and I love it when they fail. A good example of a woman that they failed to recruit is Ronda Rousey. Watch and listen:

    Depends on what the Grand Wizard was specifically saying; theres nothing wrong with white pride, but if he's calling for the extermination of blacks, then I'm sure you'd have a problem with it too.

    I don't recall Emma Watson being misandrist, however.

    I've already seen that video; it's entertaining to say the least.
 
 
 
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