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From what I've heard from my brother (UCL, on his hall's committee) even when they've actively tried to get the Chinese kids involved they don't integrate socially. They can never get them to come to their events, and when they went out for Chinese new year they tried to get them to come along, but they refused. So it's not necessarily from a lack of trying on other nationalities' behalf.
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Igloo_cone
How do you know what the 'full' experiance is? If you go to any university abroad you are going to gain alot of experiance. As i said before, its not the actuall university but also the location, i dont think you fully understand how diverse London is.


I have been to university albeit only 1 year, abroad, and I did not get the full experience compared to some people. Naturally once experience is individual but it is not difficult to find common denominators.

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Anyway though i am genuinely asking, what is Imperial actually doing to attract people in Asia to come over? Have they got a representative there who actively encourages people to come over to Imperial.


Well someone said that the mechanical engineering admissions tutor was of to Asia to attract more students to come to Imperial - that's what initially pissed me of.

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Like someone else said, I was under the impression, that although this is not the best way, alot of Asians go about choosing the best university for them by just looking at the rankings and not many other factors thus why they chose Imperail even though it may not be the best of choice for them.

And there is no possibility, whatsoever, that they might give imperial and extra 'pro' because the large Asian population? (japanese,chinese,taiwanese,sinaporians etc etc.)
shootbangfire
From what I've heard from my brother (UCL, on his hall's committee) even when they've actively tried to get the Chinese kids involved they don't integrate socially. They can never get them to come to their events, and when they went out for Chinese new year they tried to get them to come along, but they refused. So it's not necessarily from a lack of trying on other nationalities' behalf.


I rest my case.
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Well if it's just about drinking, I don't blame them.
Master Polhem
Well someone said that the mechanical engineering admissions tutor was of to Asia to attract more students to come to Imperial - that's what initially pissed me of.


What do you think about this then? Representative from Imperial College, King's College, LSE and UCL went to my college yesterday. They are even holding a 2 day educational exhibition in Malaysia. :wink:
To be fair, the education system in Singapore is one of the best in the world, especially their math (unless i mixed it up with another country, in a simmilar part of the world).

It may benefit most people here to have better students at the university and thus improve the reputation of ic
studyboy
What do you think about this then? Representative from Imperial College, King's College, LSE and UCL went to my college yesterday. They are even holding a 2 day educational exhibition in Malaysia. :wink:

They do that in many countries
wais
They do that in many countries


They are trying to attract more students all over the world, don't you agree??
studyboy
What do you think about this then? Representative from Imperial College, King's College, LSE and UCL went to my college yesterday. They are even holding a 2 day educational exhibition in Malaysia. :wink:


They are clearly biased towards gaining Asian pupils rather than say American,African,Iranians,Australians,Saudi Arabians, Russian,Canadians and so on and on and on. That is not fair towards pupils in those countries and neither is it good because Asian Kids TEND to form groups and not integrate but we have already been over this.
wais
They do that in many countries


Care to mention a few?
Master Polhem
They are clearly biased towards gaining Asian pupils rather than say American,African,Iranians,Australians,Saudi Arabians, Russian,Canadians and so on and on and on. That is not fair towards pupils in those countries and neither is it good because Asian Kids TEND to form groups and not integrate but we have already been over this.


That is quite true! A pity that some Asians like to stick to their own people instead of reaching out to other communities. I don't want to be one of them!!:frown:
Well usually the "reps" are usually alumni living in those countries. So, chinese attract more chinese, malaysians more malays and so on.

There's not as many Saudi / African / etc alumni.
wais
To be fair, the education system in Singapore is one of the best in the world, especially their math (unless i mixed it up with another country, in a simmilar part of the world).

It may benefit most people here to have better students at the university and thus improve the reputation of ic


You cannot make an argument based upon the education system in a country. Supposedly Imperial wants to attract the brightest students from all over the world and they most certainly don't come from Singapore alone, especially not because their education system is in your opinion better than say Sweden's. And I highly doubt that it overshadows the IB program.

The best students will flourish in an academic environment regardless of which country they are in or what system they are doing. That is the very basis of what is involved in the 'best students' they find out knowledge for themselves.

And if we are going to to talk about good maths programs try Russia. Their entrance exam for doing LAW was harder than the IMO papers - a professor told us so, when we were doing qualifiers for the IMO.
(And please can someone tell me what a 'Raj' is? it has been bugging me all day)
studyboy
That is quite true! A pity that some Asians like to stick to their own people instead of reaching out to other communities. I don't want to be one of them!!:frown:


And you probably wont be, I am just basing my assumption from what I have seen at Imperial and what people have said.
wais
Well usually the "reps" are usually alumni living in those countries. So, chinese attract more chinese, malaysians more malays and so on.

There's not as many Saudi / African / etc alumni.


Nah, there are 3 largest ethnic groups in Malaysian mainly the Malays, Chinese and Indian. Malaysians do not necessarily attract more Malays:wink:
Master Polhem
And you probably wont be, I am just basing my assumption from what I have seen at Imperial and what people have said.


And they are very true! By the way, Raj is a Sanskrit word for rule and dominion.
Got that from Wikipedia LOL
studyboy
And they are very true! By the way, Raj is a Sanskrit word for rule and dominion.
Got that from Wikipedia LOL



lol.


Master Polhem
Right expand my vocabulary 'cause I don't know what 'Raj' means.


The term "raj/radge" describes someone with a bad temper and goes mental at the slightest annoying thing.

It's a commonly used slang term in Scotland. :p:
Master Polhem
You cannot make an argument based upon the education system in a country. Supposedly Imperial wants to attract the brightest students from all over the world and they most certainly don't come from Singapore alone, especially not because their education system is in your opinion better than say Sweden's. And I highly doubt that it overshadows the IB program.

The best students will flourish in an academic environment regardless of which country they are in or what system they are doing. That is the very basis of what is involved in the 'best students' they find out knowledge for themselves.

And if we are going to to talk about good maths programs try Russia. Their entrance exam for doing LAW was harder than the IMO papers - a professor told us so, when we were doing qualifiers for the IMO.

No, I can second that the education system in Singapore is excellent. I have heard that the Singapore group represents the highest level of degree class attainment in Imperial College on average. Singapore students in EEE are almost taken for granted that they will score a first. The top student for my maths cohort for the January test hails from Singapore, and beats another IB guy I know who scored 7 for IB further maths with a total of 46 IB pts (he took 7 subjects, instead of the usual six.) There are a lot of evidence of high level of educational achievement across countries in Asia and East Asia. I think for these kind of education achievement across countries debate, it is useful to reference your argument to international educational assessment tables, which coincidentally all put affluent countries in Asia at the top (Japan/Korea/Singapore/Hong Kong are the usual suspects, plus Finland).
Master Polhem
They are clearly biased towards gaining Asian pupils rather than say American,African,Iranians,Australians,Saudi Arabians, Russian,Canadians and so on and on and on. That is not fair towards pupils in those countries and neither is it good because Asian Kids TEND to form groups and not integrate but we have already been over this.

Yes it bugs me tremondously. In my course the Chinese people all tend to stick around with each other and congregate at the front rows of the LT, occupying the seats in the centre, and there's just so much more them that we don't actually dare to sit there.

Also, the worst thing is that they always discuss with each other for their accessed coursework, and hence they always score impossibly high marks in an unfair way.

I think Imperial should admit more people from the Arabic speaking countries. Top American students tend to go to American Universities. Other than that, the Asian bias is good and fair due to the higher educational achievement of the Asian groups, and also the tremendous growth opportunities in Asia/India/China in the coming decades.

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