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    (Original post by The PoliticalGuy)
    You never gave your opinion on it. How can you be Muslim and feminist at the same time do you follow some deranged form of feminism where men are in charge and when your wife disobeys you " scrouge them". I don't know what that means but it seems brutal.
    4:11 - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females".
    This is made up for in marriage when a woman is given a mahr, only she can have full control over that once it is given to her from the groom's side.


    2:282 - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women".

    Many people take this out of context, this is only meant financially.

    2:223 - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." (from an overtly sexual passage).

    This is simply stating that a husband and wife can share consensual sexual pleasure.

    4:34 "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them."

    A verse which many struggle to understand. This is simply stating that men should look after women, not control them. The word "scrouge" is used as a metaphor for emotionally disciplining them, not physically. And women can equally do the same to men if he mistreats her.
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    (Original post by Cod3tte)
    4:11 - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females".
    This is made up for in marriage when a woman is given a mahr, only she can have full control over that once it is given to her from the groom's side.


    2:282 - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women".

    Many people take this out of context, this is only meant financially.

    2:223 - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." (from an overtly sexual passage).

    This is simply stating that a husband and wife can share consensual sexual pleasure.

    4:34 "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them."

    A verse which many struggle to understand. This is simply stating that men should look after women, not control them. The word "scrouge" is used as a metaphor for emotionally disciplining them, not physically. And women can equally do the same to men if he mistreats her.
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    (Original post by Cod3tte)
    4:11 - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females".
    This is made up for in marriage when a woman is given a mahr, only she can have full control over that once it is given to her from the groom's side.
    Prophet Muhammad gave 500 dirhams each to his wives as mahr, which at the time of bestowing, equated to £283. This causes many Islamic scholars and Muslims to deduce that the minimum amount of money to be given to a bride is said amount (though there isn't much doubt that this amount will vary among families). Also, the amount of money allocated to be inherited by the offspring also varies, so mahr won't always 'make up' for the amount of money lost when compared to that of a male child. Presumably more than often, it doesn't make up for it, especially as inheritance money on average (10,000s) has a far greater magnitude in terms of value than mahr (1,000s at most). In my opinion, it would be better if mahr and the inheritance rule between the genders was abolished, it's less complicated, and it's fairer.

    (Original post by Cod3tte)
    2:282 - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women".

    Many people take this out of context, this is only meant financially.
    What do you mean by 'this is only meant financially'? I can see where you got this from, as it mentions this rule when the case in a court is debt. But that doesn't negate the fact that they regard a female as half of a man as a witness in these sort of cases for no discernible reason.



    (Original post by Cod3tte)
    4:34 "Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them."

    A verse which many struggle to understand. This is simply stating that men should look after women, not control them. The word "scrouge" is used as a metaphor for emotionally disciplining them, not physically. And women can equally do the same to men if he mistreats her.
    How did you conclude that the word scrounge was a 'metaphor'? Scourge means to whip as a punishment. Also, what do you think about the portion of the verse that says 'one excels the other'?



    I don't at all mind people who practice their religion peacefully and indiscriminately (towards others), but some people need to acknowledge that these verses from their religious texts exist. Sure, as a peaceful Muslim, you would take no action to these verses and that's favorable to all of us, but some people will.
 
 
 
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