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    Hi!

    Okay, so I'm having trouble making my mind up about what I want to study at uni. Personally, I'd love to take a music degree, majoring in vocal studies, or a performing arts degree (without dance because I have no dance experience). However, i also enjoy english literature and creative writing, which is the more 'secure' route to go down and what my parents want me to go with. But I also feel I'll be happier taking music as it's the only thing i love unconditionally.

    I've also been advised by my maths teacher not to take english as lots and lots of people take english and for the degree to be truly worth it, you have to be on the top of your game, which I don't really think I am. I think to even have performing arts will fully boost my self confidence. My parents also think that if I take a degree in performing arts but end up in a job not in that industry then what was the point of taking the degree?

    But, I'm also not sure if my music experience is enough to take it at a degree level. I've got an Initial grade in Guitar from when I was 12, I'm currently working towards my Grade 8 Singing exam in the summer and I am self teaching myself and thinking about taking a grade in Music Theory after my singing exam. I don't know if my singing is to degree standards either.

    Do I take my parents' advice and stick with english or do i take a risk with music/performing arts? Should I apply to different unis with english then to another with music? Should I do the auditions then fall back on english if it doesn't work out?

    ANY advice would seriously be appreciated, thanks!
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    Why not apply to Uni for English through UCAS and Conservatoires for musical theatre/ vocal studies through CUCAS.
    Means you could cater your personal statement to both
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    Brutal truth - english on its own doesn't lead directly ro a job wherea a vocational course like performing arts is catered towards a growing industry.
    I know people who regret doing english now they're in the jobs world because it doesn't prep u for any specific job.
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    Where do you want to study performing arts?
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    (Original post by thewrongofsummer)
    Why not apply to Uni for English through UCAS and Conservatoires for musical theatre/ vocal studies through CUCAS.
    Means you could cater your personal statement to both
    That’s what I was thinking, but I’d need to convince my parents that performing arts is a good idea - thanks for the reply!
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    (Original post by bluebells1)
    Brutal truth - english on its own doesn't lead directly ro a job wherea a vocational course like performing arts is catered towards a growing industry.
    I know people who regret doing english now they're in the jobs world because it doesn't prep u for any specific job.
    Thanks would you suggest leaning more towards performing arts then?
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    (Original post by Flying Pig)
    Where do you want to study performing arts?
    I’ve looked at some conservatoires, I like the look of Guildhall and RCM. There’s also CCCU University which does a performing arts degree that you can major in vocal studies and minor in acting which means I wouldn’t have to do a triple thread MT degree since dancing is not something I’m particularly talented at. If I studied performing arts, It would have to be a course where dance is not compulsory or is not for professionals. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks for the reply!
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    What about RCS?
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    (Original post by lottyx)
    Thanks would you suggest leaning more towards performing arts then?
    Heya it's a tricky decision but I would say go with the one you're most passionate about and that has a direct link to industry afterwards.

    I hope to study Creative writing and I know it is a risk but it is far more specialised than English and, if the course is right and the university has a decent record for where graduates go after, I hope I'll be ok lmao

    The more specialised you can be the more likely you can get a job nowadays, which is why I'd say if you have the skillset go for PA. Im trying not to have a bias 😂😂

    I hope you can come to a decision. All the best!
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    That said I suppose with English you could go into law or journalism afterwards if it was something that interested you but even English has no specific industry.

    The woes of creative people 😂😂
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    (Original post by thewrongofsummer)
    What about RCS?
    I love the look of RCS and I'm definitely considering it but I live in the very south of England so it's quite far from home, especially considering 49% of students they take are from Scotland and about 15% from overseas. That's not to say I've ruled it out but I'm less inclined to audition there.
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    (Original post by bluebells1)
    Heya it's a tricky decision but I would say go with the one you're most passionate about and that has a direct link to industry afterwards.

    I hope to study Creative writing and I know it is a risk but it is far more specialised than English and, if the course is right and the university has a decent record for where graduates go after, I hope I'll be ok lmao

    The more specialised you can be the more likely you can get a job nowadays, which is why I'd say if you have the skillset go for PA. Im trying not to have a bias 😂😂

    I hope you can come to a decision. All the best!
    I am more passionate about PA and most of the unis or conservatoires I've looked at have really good stats for graduate jobs so that's good. I'm leaning more towards PA than English because I'm more likely to have specific industry to go into. I feel like I'll do English and then not know where to go from there, especially since I'm not into Law or Journalism! :laugh:
    Thank you!
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    (Original post by lottyx)
    I’ve looked at some conservatoires, I like the look of Guildhall and RCM. There’s also CCCU University which does a performing arts degree that you can major in vocal studies and minor in acting which means I wouldn’t have to do a triple thread MT degree since dancing is not something I’m particularly talented at. If I studied performing arts, It would have to be a course where dance is not compulsory or is not for professionals. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks for the reply!

    Are you planning to pursue a career as an actor / performer?
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    (Original post by lottyx)
    Hi!

    Okay, so I'm having trouble making my mind up about what I want to study at uni. Personally, I'd love to take a music degree, majoring in vocal studies, or a performing arts degree (without dance because I have no dance experience). However, i also enjoy english literature and creative writing, which is the more 'secure' route to go down and what my parents want me to go with. But I also feel I'll be happier taking music as it's the only thing i love unconditionally.

    I've also been advised by my maths teacher not to take english as lots and lots of people take english and for the degree to be truly worth it, you have to be on the top of your game, which I don't really think I am. I think to even have performing arts will fully boost my self confidence. My parents also think that if I take a degree in performing arts but end up in a job not in that industry then what was the point of taking the degree?

    But, I'm also not sure if my music experience is enough to take it at a degree level. I've got an Initial grade in Guitar from when I was 12, I'm currently working towards my Grade 8 Singing exam in the summer and I am self teaching myself and thinking about taking a grade in Music Theory after my singing exam. I don't know if my singing is to degree standards either.

    Do I take my parents' advice and stick with english or do i take a risk with music/performing arts? Should I apply to different unis with english then to another with music? Should I do the auditions then fall back on english if it doesn't work out?

    ANY advice would seriously be appreciated, thanks!
    I study a English and History joint honours degree so I can tell you what English Literature is like at degree level.

    Firstly, you should ignore the people telling you English Literature is a bad degree because it doesn't lead to a direct career path. A lot of Humanities degrees do not lead to a direct career path. Philosophy, Theology, Geography etc are all the same. That doesn't mean all these degrees are useless. In fact, it gives you a lot of options that people with STEM degrees do not have.

    If you want to do English Literature at degree level, you have to love reading because you are going to be expected to read a lot. Reading three novels a week is the standard for most English Literature degrees. If you think this is too much, you aren't going to be able to handle three years of it.

    I think you should apply to both and see where you get offers from.

    A lot of people regret doing a English Literature degree and a lot of people don't. I personally do not regret studying English Literature at degree level. It has made me a better writer and I have enjoyed everything I have studied.

    At the end of the day, you should pursue your passion. If your passion lies in music, you should make that your top choice.
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    (Original post by Flying Pig)
    Are you planning to pursue a career as an actor / performer?
    Hi!
    Yes, I would like to perform (mainly vocally) but I also enjoy writing.
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    (Original post by Manderley Inc.)
    I study a English and History joint honours degree so I can tell you what English Literature is like at degree level.

    Firstly, you should ignore the people telling you English Literature is a bad degree because it doesn't lead to a direct career path. A lot of Humanities degrees do not lead to a direct career path. Philosophy, Theology, Geography etc are all the same. That doesn't mean all these degrees are useless. In fact, it gives you a lot of options that people with STEM degrees do not have.

    If you want to do English Literature at degree level, you have to love reading because you are going to be expected to read a lot. Reading three novels a week is the standard for most English Literature degrees. If you think this is too much, you aren't going to be able to handle three years of it.

    I think you should apply to both and see where you get offers from.

    A lot of people regret doing a English Literature degree and a lot of people don't. I personally do not regret studying English Literature at degree level. It has made me a better writer and I have enjoyed everything I have studied.

    At the end of the day, you should pursue your passion. If your passion lies in music, you should make that your top choice.
    Hi!

    I don't think I'd struggle with an English degree, since I already read quite a lot, and I really enjoy writing creatively. But I also really enjoy performing and I'm not sure which I'd like to make a career out of.
    Thanks for your advice, I'm thinking of applying for both and when the time comes, make a decision.
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    (Original post by lottyx)
    Hi!
    Yes, I would like to perform (mainly vocally) but I also enjoy writing.
    If you are serious I strongly suggest trying to gain a place an an accredited school listed here:

    http://www.cdet.org.uk/accredited-professional-training

    Alternatively colleges / universities tailored towards music such as London College of Music or a music conservatoire listed here:
    https://www.ucas.com/ucas/conservato...erforming-arts


    I advise against a generic performing arts degree.
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    (Original post by Flying Pig)
    If you are serious I strongly suggest trying to gain a place an an accredited school listed here:

    http://www.cdet.org.uk/accredited-professional-training

    Alternatively colleges / universities tailored towards music such as London College of Music or a music conservatoire listed here:
    https://www.ucas.com/ucas/conservato...erforming-arts


    I advise against a generic performing arts degree.
    Thank you! I’ll definitely look into it!
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    Hi Lotty

    I would say go with the degree where you are going to achieve the highest grade and the one you enjoy the most. I’m 25 and I’ve decided to go to uni this September due to the fact I want to and I want to open other doors for my future- most jobs want you to have a degree at 2/1 and above and I know a lot of people that have degrees and their not even doing anything related to their degree.

    After job searching for a year I discovered most companies like people with degrees or at least 4 years in the industry which makes it hard for people to get jobs they want of they don’t have either!

    100% go to uni. Have fun and work hard.

    Good luck x
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    Hi lottyx,

    I agree with what some of the previous posters have said - go with the degree you are most passionate about as that's where you will do best. Generally speaking, employers look for candidates that have done well in their degree studies, and the subject itself is less important as it's all about transferable skills (unless you are going into a specific field such as psychology or medicine).

    If you chose to study at a conservatoire, it is likely that you will be expected to be grade 8 standard performance wise, but you don't necessarily need the formal certification. You would be invited to attend an audition and offered a place based on that.

    Hope that helps... let me know if you have anymore questions

    P.S. Here's the link to Trinity Laban Conservatoire of Music & Dance in case you are interested: trinitylaban.ac.uk

    Best,

    Claire
 
 
 
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