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    I study Business Management at Surrey University and the majority of people I have spoken to from my course are taking the Entrepreneurship or Marketing pathway and no one seems to be interested in Human Resource Management? Why do you think this may be?
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    (Original post by AnimeCatsMemes)
    I study Business Management at Surrey University and the majority of people I have spoken to from my course are taking the Entrepreneurship or Marketing pathway and no one seems to be interested in Human Resource Management? Why do you think this may be?
    Because it’s not perceived to be as dynamic as something as marketing or entrepreneurship.
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    HR doesn't pay much yet requires many of the skills of a manager...
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    It is not a prestigious career or attractive to people
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    HR is pretty cool, I did work experience in it at a big company. I believe they don't know what the practical working environment is like that's why

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    HR is pretty cool, I did work experience in it at a big company. I believe they don't know what the practical working environment is like that's why

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    Oooh that sounds nice. Is HR still something you would want to do? Or was it just for the experience?
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    (Original post by Skyewoods)
    It is not a prestigious career or attractive to people
    Why do you say this?
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    (Original post by Excellence2000)
    Why do you say this?
    Lower pay compared to other business areas

    Having to deal with people - it’s like baby sitting at times, you have to deal with the worst of people more than you have to deal with the best. Employees can be very demanding people.

    Lack of respect - there’s somewhat of an unfair perception of HR, in part to do with the above. People are quick to assume they are incompetent because they are not dealt with in a way they would prefer, or think they have been dealt with unfairly compared to others. People are quick to assume they could do a better job.

    It’s very political. You are the middle man between the people/management earning the mega bucks and the employees who aren’t. The demands of the two rarely are the same and often conflict. HR often have to say the thing that is a fudged vague and politically correct message rather than what they wish they could say.
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    From an employees perspective, HR is one of the most corrupt and possibly incompetent functions I have come across in my working life - no matter where I go.

    They will do tick-box exercises for hiring people, not looking beyond the CV and not really understanding the job being advertised. They just want to control the process without adding real value.

    They are there to protect the organisation rather than the employee. This is corruption. How many times have you heard about a worker complaining about a manager, only for them to close ranks and constructively dismiss the person? Incompetent managers protect themselves through cliques and unfortunately HR enable them when it is their responsibility to empower the organisation with skills and talent, and an open yet progressive culture.

    I've seen HR fire a guy for wanting a £10k raise to £70k, only to hire 3 guys to do the same job at a sub-par level - whilst of course paying 3 times as much. Was anyone held responsible for making such a poor decision? Of course not, they looked after each other.

    The real values of a company are described by who gets promoted and rewarded. This is the true culture of an organisation, not those useless posters and plaques in the reception foyer.
    If you're interested in this, Netflix's culture deck was revelatory a few years back and is still often referred to today. I don't agree with all of it (especially the fact they don't seem to want to invest in people through training, but would rather fire them) but at least it's ballsy and goes back to the routes of what HR should do:
    https://www.slideshare.net/reed2001/...anies_tolerate


    Anyway, going back to Human Resource Management. The people in an organisation are the most important asset by far. You can take all the tools and processes out, but the company will still run. You can't take the people out. If you have the best teams, you have the best organisation. It's as simple as that. So yes HR is very important, and the underlying problem it tries to address is very important, but it's lost its way over the last couple of decades.
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    (Original post by Excellence2000)
    Why do you say this?
    Prestigious jobs are competitive ones. Competitive jobs are one where there are a lot of people apply for the few jobs available. This is not the case for HR
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    (Original post by Skyewoods)
    Prestigious jobs are competitive ones. Competitive jobs are one where there are a lot of people apply for the few jobs available. This is not the case for HR
    Not always true. HR can be very competitive. Having recruited for HR teams and grad programmes, they can often have very high application numbers.

    I suspect the gender skew in those applications doesn’t help the perception though.
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    There’s little room for creativity or doing new things in HRM, unlike other areas of business. HRM is often about resolving people problems, which isn’t seen as glamorous or exciting. Nobody grows up thinking ‘when I’m older I want to be a HR Director’.
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    (Original post by Duncan2012)
    There’s little room for creativity or doing new things in HRM, unlike other areas of business. HRM is often about resolving people problems, which isn’t seen as glamorous or exciting. Nobody grows up thinking ‘when I’m older I want to be a HR Director’.
    I did when I left uni. Then I realised what generalist HR was like 😂.

    Fortunately I found my specialism within HR early on and actually got to avoid most of the “HR” stuff. Also got to do more of the creative side of it.
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    (Original post by J-SP)
    I did when I left uni. Then I realised what generalist HR was like 😂.

    Fortunately I found my specialism within HR early on and actually got to avoid most of the “HR” stuff. Also got to do more of the creative side of it.
    What is your specialism?
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    For those who don't think HR is a great career choice, what alternatives would you suggest?
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    (Original post by Excellence2000)
    What is your specialism?
    Student recruitment - apprenticeship/intern/grads. It’s generally the more lively and positive side of HR.
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    (Original post by J-SP)
    Student recruitment - apprenticeship/intern/grads. It’s generally the more lively and positive side of HR.
    Hah. Laughing at our misery.

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    (Original post by Princepieman)
    Hah. Laughing at out misery.

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    Hah. Laughing at out misery.

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    Huh?
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    (Original post by J-SP)
    🤨

    Huh?
    Was a jab at how on your side of the table it's fun but on the candidate's side it's usually hell haha.

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